Good news for Intel G965 Users who use integrated graphics

[rakeshishere]

^how does MW run in your system? slow? (any fps issue?)
& whats your config.?

Its Not Slow.. When i Start Doom3..I just Get an explorer error
and MW runs fine ..Meaning Its not slow but gfx lags.When I play @ 1024*768 Res,My Comp Restarts at certain locations during gameplay
This happened only after i installed the Beta drivers...

Here is My Config:

PROCESSOR: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz
MOTHERBOARD: Intel DG965RY
RAM: 1GB DDR2

 

[s18000rpm]

for me MW runs fine for 30mins, then slows down (FPS drops) & if i get more than 8/10 cops chasing me, thats it its like if i've activated Unlimited SpeedBreaker

i'm running the game at 1024rsln. but this FPS drop happens in 640rsnl. too (at lowest gfx. settings).

i'm confused, i dunno whether the P4 is slowing down or the drivers.

anyways GTR2 runs better than MW (thats all i need...for now)

 

[eleca]

hello, i got a new pc recently and was wondering if it was good enough to play battlefield2? as this game was mentioned in this thread, my specs r
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/12/2007, 23:25:03
Machine name: TELFORD91-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dell DM061
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 2.2.1
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1014MB RAM
Page File: 853MB used, 1429MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) G965 Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 3000
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29A2&SUBSYS_01DD1028&REV_02
Display Memory: 250 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 250 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1147 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/9/2007 19:32:30, 2105344 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6AE2-11CF-E377-D721A3C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x29A2
SubSys ID: 0x01DD1028
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEGi would be grateful for any help thank you.

 

[yesh1683]

Nope.Both the 6150 & the 6100 have full support for Hardware T&L.How you might ask? Well these chipsets with their standard drivers are capable of playing No One Lives Forever 2 which is very strict on demanding the use of a hardware T&L supported card/chipset.The 6150 & 6100 have far better games compatibililty compared to the G965 as like you earlier mentioned Hitman Blood Money still doesn't run on your chipset whereas it plays flawlessly on my friends "old" 6100 board & same goes for oblivion @800x600 settings.Intel has a pathetic driver line up which has cursed their X3000 graphic series.It had been in talks that this Hardware T&L support based driver will be releasing soon & till now it's still in the Beta testing.

If I had to choose one I would have certainly gone in for Nvidia's onboard solution provided they were available with Intel's Core 2 Duo compliant motherboards.

I agree with u in following cases

The 6150 & 6100 have far better games compatibililty compared to the G965
Intel has a pathetic driver line up

I totally disagree That 6150 is better than G965

U know on paper G965 is more powerful even powefull than 6200 TC

GeForce 6100 Specs

• Core Clock: 425 MHz
• Pixel Pipelines: 2
• Vertex Processors: 1
• Memory: Usually 32/64/128/256 MB shared DDR - s.939/DDR2 - s.AM2

GeForce 6150 Specs

• Core Clock: 475 MHz

INTEL X3000 Specs

Core Clock: 667 MHz
8 Unified shader processors
Memory : upto 320 MB

6150 has nvidia pure video technology and intel has intel clear video technology and itz video and image quality is better than nvidia

Proof is here from anandtech
*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2942&p=10

Some gaming Benchmark scores are below [ remember itz with drivers not supporting hardware TnL, so it falls back to nvidia] u can see that intel posts almost same FPS in both 1024x768 and 1280x1024 resolutions where as nvidia scores drop at high resolutions
*www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/article.php/2691_3673796__6
With beta drivers i got 30 FPS in Prey at 1024 res at high settings

Ok tell me is 6150 capable of playing DOOM3 at 1024 res at ultra settings with just AA & AF Turned off and all other settings ON like shadows
& i played doom 3 at these settings on intel at 15 FPS
I played quake 4 at high settings 1024 res
CMR05 also at high settings
I playewd GRAW at medium settings

Is 6150 capable of these?

6150 was best wen it was released and i agree that nvidia new IGP will be far better
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Ok Today I tested Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition

It runs smooth at 800 res

Lots of fun slashing those enemies


Vista game SHADOWRUN also played well on vista
Completed HALO2 also today
[without hardware TnL support as vista drivers still wont support it]

I played shadow run at mid sttings at 800
It plays at high settings also but just lags a bit

 

[adithyagenius]

Anyone tried F.E.A.R on it?

 

[yesh1683]

Anyone tried F.E.A.R on it?

Fear is playable but some minor issues The game gfx is corrupted here and there and it plays fine on medium settings at 800 res

But fear extraction point has no such trouble plays fine

 

[adithyagenius]

Fear is playable but some minor issues The game gfx is corrupted here and there and it plays fine on medium settings at 800 res

But fear extraction point has no such trouble plays fine

Can you please post the results of the in game benchmark?

 

[assasin]

@yesh1683 did u like the game shadow run?is it a good game?

 

[yesh1683]

Can you please post the results of the in game benchmark?

Ok i will post tomorrow

But i have only demo i will run performance test and post the results at all settings

@yesh1683 did u like the game shadow run?is it a good game?

Itz Fun lies mainly in online game
I only played with bots
I liked it
itz fun using magic powers
but it only has limited maps
if u like online multiplayer u will like it

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

U know on paper G965 is more powerful even powefull than 6200 TC

GeForce 6100 Specs

• Core Clock: 425 MHz
• Pixel Pipelines: 2
• Vertex Processors: 1
• Memory: Usually 32/64/128/256 MB shared DDR - s.939/DDR2 - s.AM2

GeForce 6150 Specs

• Core Clock: 475 MHz

INTEL X3000 Specs

Core Clock: 667 MHz
8 Unified shader processors
Memory : upto 320 MB

6150 has nvidia pure video technology and intel has intel clear video technology and itz video and image quality is better than nvidia

Well frankly speaking,paper specs being above 6150 is merely very poor excuse for it's lack for games compatibility IMO.With a higher core clock & additional support for onboard sharing doesn't make much difference when it comes to gaming on onboard video as they are handicapped by poor bandwidth.

Now coming back to the "pure video" V/S "Clear video" aspect,tell me how much difference did you actually notice? I went through all the images,yet again.Believe me I've been there done that.Been through this review at Anandtech tons of times before buying my actual PC.Seriously not impressed.The only minute difference I could gauge into was that 6150 was having a bit faded contrast as compared to GMA X3000.Now let's speak in much more practical terms,I had tried out Terminator II:Judgement Day Director's Cut Edition original DVD on both my chipset as well as my friends Nvidia 6150 chipset with all WinDVD settings to default & didn't notice much difference.

Ok tell me is 6150 capable of playing DOOM3 at 1024 res at ultra settings with just AA & AF Turned off and all other settings ON like shadows
& i played doom 3 at these settings on intel at 15 FPS
I played quake 4 at high settings 1024 res
CMR05 also at high settings
I playewd GRAW at medium settings

Is 6150 capable of these?

For Doom III Yes I have seen my friend play this game @1024x768 with Ultra settings & with AA & AF turned on(Duh!) and would get 19-20fps at some point & then would would drop when intense battle scenes.Did you know that Doom III didn't run on X3000 before this beta driver came out?

BTW what pleasure do you get with running a game at such low fps? Would you rather have low settings & have playable frame rates or would rather prefer a slide show with high settings?

For the record,have also tried out Quake 4 but was at 800x600 with playable frame rates indoor & would lag heavily on outdoors which I would rather want to see how much you got in outdoor sequences @1024x768?

Don't have CMR05 & haven't tried GRAW yet.

6150 was best wen it was released and i agree that nvidia new IGP will be far better

Only time will tell if Intel could release a stable driver which could prove to be worthy of running most of the games which Nvidia can currently run with zero crash & restart problems.

Now don't get me wrong I am not against Intel out here.My only question is when they boasted so much about this chipset's features & clock speeds & stuff like that then why make such rubbish drivers which are incapable of pulling off many games decently.Heck even a game like Far Cry came up with heavy graphical glitches.If you had kept a track of the Nvidia's older generation Nforce chipset's as well then even they had better graphic capabilities compared to Intel.They never had driver issues till date.Hence I would rather wait & watch from a distance of Intel coming up with some good solution.Dude believe me I have tried out F.E.A.R @1600x1200 resolution on my X3000 with old drivers & even I could yield 15fps with all settings to high.HL2 @1280x1024 all high with 4X AA & 8X AF(in game) & believe it or not it could run the game.I was shocked to see it delivering 25-30fps indoors at some points. So not like this chipset is trash it just needs a good & most notably a stable driver to pat it's back.

 

[assasin]

hey anyone of u ran Lost Planet on X3000?wat fps did ya get?

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

^Well tried to run the DX9 demo on the standard drivers & it failed to initialise.Guess I had my expectation too high.I guess Yesh could check since he has the beta drivers.

 

[yesh1683]

At last Today Intel have released beta drivers for VISTA 32Bit

But still early beta

But they also listed Long Licence agreement

Any way link to vista drivers
*downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_De...OSs=164&OSFullName=Windows Vista* 32&lang=eng



I will check the Non working games with vista Drivers and post the results

 

[iHATEdigit]

Hay friends Please help me......
I am using DG965RY mb and C2D 4300 with Kingston 667Mhz Ram and WD3200AAJS HardDrive!!
I am using windows xp and I want to use my SATA II hd in SATA mode its running in IDE mode please help me.........this borad has ICH8 Sata controller and Intel has no driver for this modo!

Help me!

 

[yesh1683]

Well frankly speaking,paper specs being above 6150 is merely very poor excuse for it's lack for games compatibility IMO.With a higher core clock & additional support for onboard sharing doesn't make much difference when it comes to gaming on onboard video as they are handicapped by poor bandwidth.

Now coming back to the "pure video" V/S "Clear video" aspect,tell me how much difference did you actually notice? I went through all the images,yet again.Believe me I've been there done that.Been through this review at Anandtech tons of times before buying my actual PC.Seriously not impressed.The only minute difference I could gauge into was that 6150 was having a bit faded contrast as compared to GMA X3000.Now let's speak in much more practical terms,I had tried out Terminator II:Judgement Day Director's Cut Edition original DVD on both my chipset as well as my friends Nvidia 6150 chipset with all WinDVD settings to default & didn't notice much difference.



For Doom III Yes I have seen my friend play this game @1024x768 with Ultra settings & with AA & AF turned on(Duh!) and would get 19-20fps at some point & then would would drop when intense battle scenes.Did you know that Doom III didn't run on X3000 before this beta driver came out?

BTW what pleasure do you get with running a game at such low fps? Would you rather have low settings & have playable frame rates or would rather prefer a slide show with high settings?

For the record,have also tried out Quake 4 but was at 800x600 with playable frame rates indoor & would lag heavily on outdoors which I would rather want to see how much you got in outdoor sequences @1024x768?

Don't have CMR05 & haven't tried GRAW yet.

Only time will tell if Intel could release a stable driver which could prove to be worthy of running most of the games which Nvidia can currently run with zero crash & restart problems.

Now don't get me wrong I am not against Intel out here.My only question is when they boasted so much about this chipset's features & clock speeds & stuff like that then why make such rubbish drivers which are incapable of pulling off many games decently.Heck even a game like Far Cry came up with heavy graphical glitches.If you had kept a track of the Nvidia's older generation Nforce chipset's as well then even they had better graphic capabilities compared to Intel.They never had driver issues till date.Hence I would rather wait & watch from a distance of Intel coming up with some good solution.Dude believe me I have tried out F.E.A.R @1600x1200 resolution on my X3000 with old drivers & even I could yield 15fps with all settings to high.HL2 @1280x1024 all high with 4X AA & 8X AF(in game) & believe it or not it could run the game.I was shocked to see it delivering 25-30fps indoors at some points. So not like this chipset is trash it just needs a good & most notably a stable driver to pat it's back.

well Buddy i am not against Nvidia6150 neither i am in favour with intel, in fact i am collecting money to buy nvidia 8800 card

Ok,, dont post wrong benchmarks here
Doom 3 @1024 Ultra settings with AA & AF on doesnt produce 20 FPS even on 6600 card
u r telling 6150 will play at 20

Doom 3 on 6150 @ 800 produces only 25fps on high settings see any benchmark tests, google it [ that too doom engine favours and runs excellent on nvidia cards]

Intel clear video has better contrast just slightly [ but that slight difference is also a difference] U cant notice any change if u see same video on two PCs at two different times, to notice any differnce u must watch same videos on two pcs simultaneously side by side


Well Intel really has big problem in getting decent drivers the chipset was released way back in November and after almost 8 months they have releaed just released drivers that enable hardware TnL that too beta

I think Vista's Beta drivers are more capable of playing games
Because i saw Call of Juarez game run on Vista with vista beta drivers and it doesnt run the game on XP with XP beta drivers

I will check hitman and others and post the results

hey anyone of u ran Lost Planet on X3000?wat fps did ya get?

Well I will download the Demo tonight and post the results here


I will post the F.E.A.R benchmarks tomorrow

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Ok,, dont post wrong benchmarks here
Doom 3 @1024 Ultra settings with AA & AF on doesnt produce 20 FPS even on 6600 card
u r telling 6150 will play at 20

Woah! Then something must be really wrong with my friend's 6600GT when I last remember trying it on his earlier rig a year ago @1600x1200 at ultra high settings without AA & AF with playable frame rates. I'm not sure which benchmarks you are looking at but I have tried it in real world & YES that means I have tried it on existing system.And I just checked my above post & yes which is a complete typo when it came to adding "with" instead of "without" AA & AF into that line on Doom 3.Serious mistake from my part on that part.In any case I'll run those test once again on my friends rig & post the results if you want.

Intel clear video has better contrast just slightly [ but that slight difference is also a difference] U cant notice any change if u see same video on two PCs at two different times, to notice any differnce u must watch same videos on two pcs simultaneously side by side

Also don't worry I am buying an Nvidia card myself.7900GT to be more specific.

 

[s18000rpm]

June 19, 2007


NEW Version of BETA Drivers RELEASED 14.31b


->Download

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver Beta 14.31 Release Notes

(keep checking for the notes)

 

[yesh1683]

June 19, 2007


NEW Version of BETA Drivers RELEASED 14.31b


->Download

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver Beta 14.31 Release Notes

(keep checking for the notes)

Thanx Buddy i was about to mention that

They have released final beta version i think
the first beta was pre-beta driver
This is beta driver

I will check the non working games again and post the results i think some issues are resolved call of juarez was playable with vista beta driver

By the By have u checked the

INTEL SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT

The Software contains pre-release “alpha” or “beta” code, which may not be fully functional and which Intel Corporation (“Intel”) may substantially modify in producing any “final” version of the Software. Intel can provide no assurance that it will ever produce or make generally available a “final” version of this Software.

Read the red lines

Well they are saying they cant guarentee the final version will be released

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

^Nah don't worry thats what they usually say but eventually come up with a final release.Atleast as far as this driver release is concerned it will need a full fledged release since this is the only bet that Intel has to improve their competitive reign in onboard video gaming.It's now or never for Intel.

 

[s18000rpm]

yah, if Intel doesnt come up with final driver set, then nobody's Gonna buy their m/b, so no worry.

i tried with Counter Strike Source , RACE : WTCC & Cobra 11,

CSS still gives BSOD (win32k.sys error),

RACE - WTCC corrupts the gfx. after 10mins. of play & crashes, & then i cant see icons(desktop), the "radio" buttons become invisible, ultimately i've to restart the PC.

Cobra 11 runs good