Gaming PC for 45-50k

[desiibond]

my history with AMD:

1. Athlon 64 3200+. (purchased in 2006)
Stock speed: 1.8GHz
Overclock: 2.2GHz
Was running at this speed for more than a year.
Status: Sitting in my friend's house and it still rock stable.

2. Athlon X2 7750 BE (since 2008 I think)
running at stock speed
Status: this post is from the same PC.

From what you are saying, both the PCs should've been burned by now or died. Care to explain?

Be rational before saying something. Your version of heat and efficiency issues match what the h/w dealers in my home town say (even this day).if your brainwash was from those useless h/w dealers, you better start learn the truth.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

@ desibond
I don't go by the stories of those low intelligence Jerks out there...But i've seen reviews in Anadtech and many other which shows my point...I've nothing against AMD...

Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
I know everybody has seen the reviews but the TDP was getting me worried...plus the FPS difference OMG!!!

GOD DAMN IT!!! Screwed my exams over this but still haven't decided on this thing..
THANKS to all of you for sharing the above experiences....I'm in such a bad situation right now...

 

[skeletor]

@ desibond
I don't go by the stories of those low intelligence Jerks out there...But i've seen reviews in Anadtech and many other which shows my point...I've nothing against AMD...

Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
I know everybody has seen the reviews but the TDP was getting me worried...plus the FPS difference OMG!!!

1) AMD Phenom II 965BE + 880G motherboard + HD 6870 = 8 + 4.4 + 15.1k = 27.5k

2) Core i7-760 + P55 motherboard + HD 6850 = 10 + 6 + 12k = 28k

Just an example. Each company is competitive at different price points. A new 965 BE C3 was released with lower TDP later.

Config 1 will give better frame rate than Config 2.

 

[desiibond]

@ desibond
I don't go by the stories of those low intelligence Jerks out there...But i've seen reviews in Anadtech and many other which shows my point...I've nothing against AMD...

Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
I know everybody has seen the reviews but the TDP was getting me worried...plus the FPS difference OMG!!!

GOD DAMN IT!!! Screwed my exams over this but still haven't decided on this thing..
THANKS to all of you for sharing the above experiences....I'm in such a bad situation right now...

What do you think about these processors in terms of reliability and heating:

1. Core i7 920
2. Core i7 965
3. Core i7 975
4. C2Q 9650
5. C2Q Q6600

1) AMD Phenom II 965BE + 880G motherboard + HD 6870 = 8 + 4.4 + 15.1k = 27.5k

2) Core i7-760 + P55 motherboard + HD 6850 = 10 + 6 + 12k = 28k

Just an example. Each company is competitive at different price points. A new 965 BE C3 was released with lower TDP later.

Config 1 will give better frame rate than Config 2.

Also, Phenom II X6 1055T which is a six-core processor has TDP of 95W which is the same that a quad core i5 760 has. So, this means that 1055T is lot more efficient, given that the TDP increases with addition of cores.

Check this out:

*www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=144

Phenom II X4 955 (8k) and core i5 650 (8.7k).
as you can see 955 is neck-to-neck with 650 in games but in other benchmarks it is way ahead.

and check this now:

*www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=109

Phenom II X4 955 (8k) and core i5 750 (8.7k).

Still not much difference between these two,which means that even 760 will not be much ahead. Given that it costs 2k more, you can invest the amount in GPU.

HD6850: 11.5k-12k
HD6870: 15k-15.5k

so, I think 945+HD6870 would do more good than 760+HD6850. and you only pay 1k extra. Given how well AMDs run, you just increase clock speed to 3.2GHz and turn it into 955. only thing is that it's not BE.

 

[skeletor]

and why is a 2009 being processor compared to a 2010 one?

 

[Ishu Gupta]

^^^

owned

 

[Joker]

@OP

we know that intel procy's at the moment are more power efficient..but it is nt the case that an AMD will fry up due to heat for cause u twice the electricity bill....overexaggerating things is wrong.

u have a budget which suits intel...you should go for it.

 

[coderunknown]

keviv partially right. the Phenom II's use apparently the same HSF as the Athlon II's, just with a few heatpipes. but this doesn't solves the problem entirely. some HSF (only in case of Phenom II X4 BE samples) are found to be making a lot of noise. the rate of failure is low but this is what i seen till now (currently a thread running here abt X4 965 HSF making sound or something). so can't say Phenom II X4 BE (only the 955 & 965) is really a good buy compared to i5 7**.

OR

get the system without the graphics card. test the system. if no loud fan or faulty HSF, order the card/buy the card locally (HD6870). else get a CM Hyper TX3 + HD6850. still the chance of getting a faulty HSF is slim. but never the less, if one's luck is bad, may end up with a bad HSF. but please note its the heatsink+fan & not the processor.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

I had never used an AMD that's why i was skeptic. The heating query was a general question and i DIDN'T say the problem persists..i wanted to know about the performance of an AMD and how does it fare..

But i will still stand by my statement of efficiency when comparing 965BE to 760..you cannot compare products just on the price factor. Hence i was referring to these two on the basis of price, specs and structure..please don't compare the 760 and phenom x6...

I am not a Super-Geek who wants to know everything about all the processors..my query was regarding the 760 and similar offering from AMD..


I respect all of your views and suggestions and so i want to ask this one thing one more time(please)...

On the factor of gaming which will be the best configuration based on a 6870..
don't go buy my budget and say "these all will fit in the budget"...I can't increase it above 60k but i CAN leave out stuff like monitor if the total price is too high...

I'm spending too much on this so i want to be happy with my decision and not like " Ok i can work with this"...Thanks everybody for taking out their time and bashing my views...

 

[desiibond]

I had never used an AMD that's why i was skeptic. The heating query was a general question and i DIDN'T say the problem persists..i wanted to know about the performance of an AMD and how does it fare..

But i will still stand by my statement of efficiency when comparing 965BE to 760..you cannot compare products just on the price factor. Hence i was referring to these two on the basis of price, specs and structure..please don't compare the 760 and phenom x6...

I am not a Super-Geek who wants to know everything about all the processors..my query was regarding the 760 and similar offering from AMD..


I respect all of your views and suggestions and so i want to ask this one thing one more time(please)...

On the factor of gaming which will be the best configuration based on a 6870..
don't go buy my budget and say "these all will fit in the budget"...I can't increase it above 60k but i CAN leave out stuff like monitor if the total price is too high...

I'm spending too much on this so i want to be happy with my decision and not like " Ok i can work with this"...Thanks everybody for taking out their time and bashing my views...

Simple. If you can get core i5 760 and HD6870, go ahead and get it. it's one heck of a combination. If it goes above your budget, get 945 or 955 or 965 with HD6870. Also, I think that GTX470 is a better GPU than HD6870 (especially in games supporting PhysX)

 

[Reaper_vivek]

Does the G2220 or the G2420 would give the best display ONLY when we are exactly in front of it???...I mean would even a slight angle mess up its view......or should i go ahead with it instead of trying to fit Dell u2311h in my budget??

 

[coderunknown]

@desibond, its better sacrifice a few FPS for a cooler & less power hungry GPU. also HD6870 cost slightly less than GTX470. and Nvidia may release GTX570 before 2011.

 

[vickybat]

Yes even i agree with sam.shab . The 6870 would be a better option cause its cooler and less power hungry and will also fare well in physx titles. The 5-6 fps difference won't matter that much as long as the game runs at 50 -60 fps.

 

[desiibond]

@desibond, its better sacrifice a few FPS for a cooler & less power hungry GPU. also HD6870 cost slightly less than GTX470. and Nvidia may release GTX570 before 2011.

ah yes, you are right. the GTX470 is bloody 30 degrees hotter than HD6870 and am surprised to see that HD6870 stays cooler than HD6850 by few degrees.

 

[desiibond]

@desibond, its better sacrifice a few FPS for a cooler & less power hungry GPU. also HD6870 cost slightly less than GTX470. and Nvidia may release GTX570 before 2011.

ah yes, you are right. the GTX470 is bloody 30 degrees hotter than HD6870 and am surprised to see that HD6870 stays cooler than HD6850 by few degrees.

 

[coderunknown]

ah yes, you are right. the GTX470 is bloody 30 degrees hotter than HD6870 and am surprised to see that HD6870 stays cooler than HD6850 by few degrees.

maybe cause the HD6870 uses AMD reference design (blower fan) or say the full shound covering. so kicks warm air out of cabby. HD6850 uses some some open cover HSF design with a fast fan (all are custom coolers). so keeps using the warm air again & again & again. so gets few degree hot.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

2 days to go now and i have thought about this...

It may not be very smart of me but have decided to make my final decision when i'm actually in the SMC store...i've come down to two configuration and will choose on the basis of availability and price...

Intel core i5 760 @10.1k
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3R @ 9.8k( just because of the overclocking and features like USB 3.0,SATA 3)
G Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz Ripjaws kit @ 3.7k
Seagate 7200.12 1TB @ 2.8k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
Benq G2220HD @7.5k
HD 6870 @ 15k(MSI or Sapphire whichever is available)
CM elite 430 @ 2.8k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.4k
Hypere 212 plus @1.8k

Total @58k

OR

AMD phenom II x4 965BE @ 8.3k
MSI 890GXM-G65 @ 7k
G Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz Ripjaws kit @ 3.7k
Seagate 7200.12 1TB @ 2.8k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
Benq G2220HD @7.5k
HD 6870 @ 15k(MSI or Sapphire whichever is available)
CM elite 430 @ 2.8k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.4k
Hypere 212 plus @1.8k

If you still think some other products are better at the same price please recommend..only 2 days now..

 

[skeletor]

Go for the Intel config.

 

[Piyush]

go for which ever u like
both are capable enough

though 1st one is looking better
and 2nd one will let u save a handful of money

 

[Joker]

go for the intel config