gxsaurav said:
Anidex, U like Radeon, fine Keep it, we don't like it
Here in the market we have, ASUS , MSI, gIgabyte, although they all make both Radeons & GeForce, but previously they didn't support ATI, care to tell me Y, just explaing the simple marketing reason??
MSI Asus and Gigabyte introduced Radeon cards after the 9xxx series, ATI cards before them were crap. But then agaiin so were the Nvidia cards in the starting if you dont know ask any Voodod users.
Oh! & the driver, look again, soon the old control panel will be discontinued, 42 MB for Driver + Control Panel, with 23 MB for .net runtime with 10 MB .net runtime 1.1 SP1 = 74 MB
What was that if you dont like the huge file size there are always 8mb Omega drivers, which IMO perform much better.
This is india, many people are still happy with onboard Intel Graphics, they can't spend Rs 10k for gaming, well, U may have a lot of money to waste on a high end GFX card, but certenly, I don't, & many of us other don't
ATI has low end cards too. Havent you heard about Radeon 7000 7200 and 7500. True at that range a Geforce would be better option.
Take a look at the above benchmarks, where is ATI winning, oh! & by the way, how many features does ATI cards support which are implemented in the games, industry support the features NVIDIA supports, only a few games support ATI features
What is ATI features and What are Nvidia features, for godsake there are just 2 API's rt now Direct x and OPen GL and both of them support them.
, but they also support all the features of NVIDIA, prime example, Half Life 2, ATI's own, So X800 beats 6800 in that
Yes ATI X800 will be faster in that game., well, U said to me earlier that PS3.0 is not required as there are no games, but U do coding in DX na, tell me , if there is no hardware to make PS3.0 games, then how can the games ever come, the thing is ATI PS2.0 architecture is good, but their R500 will again fail.
SM 3.0 support right now is very less, and EA one of the major Video games player has announced that they dont have any plans for SM 3.0 games in the near future. Also R520 will support Sm 3.0
They are saying everyone, not to make games in PS3.0 as it is not required, they are lieing, cos they don't want games to come, which doesn't support their Hardware, & Half Life 2, even that supports PS3.0, now if NVIDIA hardwre is that bad, & PS3.0 is not required, then Y do we have, 18 games upcoming supporting PS3.0, & more are being added to this list everyday
The list is very less if you see SM 3.0 games coming out next year.
6800 isn't future proof, well, lets see, MS has already released the DX9c , now their is only PS3.0 and ATI X800 is PS2.0, what do U think is Future proof, stick to the old technology cos ATI wants U to, take a look at the sales at newegg, if they sale 20 Gfx cards, then 15 are 6800 & 5 are X800, now U will say that all the world has gone mad, & NVIDIA is bribing them
Incase you dont know but the major SM 3.0 features are for performance and the only visual aspect added is displacement mapping which a 6800 cannot handle at 800*600 as it is.
Now coming to the Marketing part, NVIDIA is far better then ATI when it comes to marketing, ask me, I was an fanATIc like U before, I struggled a lot to get my hands on Radeon 9600 Pro from Gigabyte, I had to wait 2 months for it to come, reason, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte & all other major brands available in India, were selling NVIDIA cards only, cos they capture a big market, NVIDIA had GeForce FX 5200 non Ultra here in India for Rs 3k, which is even longhorn Certified, how many are out there who owns a killer rig, When I ordered for FX5900XT, in only 14 days, it was at my home, NVIDIA had a DX9 card for under Rs 3.5k, while for Rs 3.5 k there is no ATI card supporting DX9
That is half truth the only Fx 5200 cards available for 3.5k are the 64 bit memory bandwith versions, a 64 bit card will be slower then a Geforce 4mx 440. You cannot judge a company by its presence in INdia!!!! and regarding DX 9.0 cards in 3.5k range thats a farce as those cards cannot even play DX 8 games at full detail....
BTW have you noticed the actual shader perfomance of the FX series they are pathetic to say the least a 9600XT gets a better score then FX 5950 ultra in 3d mark 2005. And not to mention HL2 source engine it sputters in SM 2.0 shader mode.
ATI cards use non Standerd way of running a shader, NVIDIA cards are better when it comes to AA but ATI has an edge when it comes to Anistropic filtering, I admit that, but this is only one thing better then NVIDIA while all the other 99% things are favoring NVIDIA,
LOL have you forgotten the whole the way its meant to be played controvesy, the FX series utilises 16 bit floating point precision 100% of the times compared to 24bit Precision of ATI cards.
I have completely lost faith in Nvidia after their debacle of the FX series and how they went to cheat customers offering DX 9.0 cards which had pathetic shader performance. Nvidia 6800 series is a diff story altogether nevertheless I would always think twice before buying an Nvidia product.
ATI's CCC is far more simple, if you have troubles with it then it means you are a n00b. 