Does it suck to be an Indian gamer?

[skeletor]

^ Those are some weird pings. From bangalore I get 30-50 pings to my friends place some blocks away. Normal is around 100. rarely 140+ and ones on 3G and photon show up 200+ upto 350.

Note: I have MTNL and my neighbour has Airtel.

Within the same ISP and city, pings are okay.

To a friend of mine in Delhi and using MTNL.

PING 59.178.178.178 (59.178.178.178): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.178.178.178: icmp_seq=0 ttl=62 time=17.259 ms
64 bytes from 59.178.178.178: icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=23.240 ms
64 bytes from 59.178.178.178: icmp_seq=2 ttl=62 time=17.953 ms
64 bytes from 59.178.178.178: icmp_seq=3 ttl=62 time=18.279 ms
64 bytes from 59.178.178.178: icmp_seq=4 ttl=62 time=17.070 ms

59.94.96.1 ~60ms
59.178.191.254 ~102ms


main problem is packet loss in between.

60ms~ is good. That's a BSNL IP btw. I guess, you are using BSNL too. (at the moment)

The second one is MTNL Delhi.

 

[Faun]

@ico I am getting ~115 for all the IPs except the Japan one. There the pings are ~300ms.

Can you traceroute its (61.125.195.20) ?

here's mine going all the way through london

Hop IP Address Host Name Response Time
=== ========== ========= =============
1 192.168.1.1 0 ms
2 117.195.64.1 18 ms
3 218.248.164.74 25 ms
4 218.248.255.30 48 ms
5 59.163.206.45 59.163.206.45.static.chennai.vsnl.net.in 47 ms
6 172.31.16.173 45 ms
7 180.87.39.25 if-0-100.tcore2.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net 46 ms
8 80.231.130.5 if-6-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net 301 ms
9 80.231.130.10 Vlan704.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net 302 ms
10 195.219.83.22 Vlan522.icore1.LDN-London.as6453.net 198 ms
11 129.250.5.40 ae-4.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net 188 ms
12 129.250.5.35 as-0.r22.osakjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net 385 ms
13 129.250.3.221 ae-5.r24.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net 383 ms
14 61.213.160.242 po-1.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net 315 ms
15 61.213.161.6 xe-1-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net 313 ms
16 202.224.32.81 tkybi1.asahi-net.or.jp 318 ms
17 202.224.33.140 fnbnirb.asahi-net.or.jp 324 ms
18 203.189.61.3 fnbnif7.asahi-net.or.jp 330 ms
19 61.125.195.20 i195020.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp 331 ms
Trace complete

 

[skeletor]

Can you traceroute its (61.125.195.20) ?

traceroute to 61.125.195.20 (61.125.195.20), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 2.915 ms 1.410 ms 2.572 ms
2 triband-del-59.178.191.254.bol.net.in (59.178.191.254) 13.699 ms 13.653 ms 14.473 ms
3 triband-del-59.179.0.59.bol.net.in (59.179.0.59) 33.878 ms 14.391 ms 13.369 ms
4 125.19.8.161 (125.19.8.161) 14.463 ms 13.360 ms 13.220 ms
5 182.79.255.14 (182.79.255.14) 101.066 ms 108.780 ms 99.018 ms
6 129.250.12.229 (129.250.12.229) 146.907 ms 145.957 ms 146.713 ms
7 ae-2.r20.sngpsi02.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.142) 135.778 ms
ae-0.r02.sngpsi02.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.248) 151.004 ms
ae-2.r20.sngpsi02.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.142) 135.018 ms
8 as-1.r22.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.20) 188.326 ms
p64-6-1-2.r25.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.22) 204.221 ms
as-1.r22.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.20) 188.881 ms
9 po-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net (203.105.72.150) 196.142 ms
ae-3.r25.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.157) 189.008 ms
po-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net (203.105.72.150) 197.600 ms
10 po-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net (203.105.72.150) 196.679 ms
xe-1-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net (61.213.161.6) 185.026 ms *
11 tkybi1.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.32.81) 195.536 ms
xe-1-2.a14.tokyjp01.jp.ra.gin.ntt.net (61.213.161.6) 185.018 ms
tkybi1.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.32.81) 185.254 ms
12 tkybi1.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.32.81) 185.741 ms
fnbnirb.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.33.140) 189.165 ms
tkybi1.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.32.81) 184.514 ms
13 fnbnif7.asahi-net.or.jp (203.189.61.3) 191.491 ms
fnbnirb.asahi-net.or.jp (202.224.33.140) 204.163 ms
fnbnif7.asahi-net.or.jp (203.189.61.3) 189.856 ms
14 fnbnif7.asahi-net.or.jp (203.189.61.3) 190.326 ms
i195020.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (61.125.195.20) 188.573 ms
fnbnif7.asahi-net.or.jp (203.189.61.3) 189.885 ms

 

[Faun]

60ms~ is good. That's a BSNL IP btw. I guess, you are using BSNL too. (at the moment)

The second one is MTNL Delhi.

Yeah, BSNL 750UL

Previously pings were hovering around 253ms to google but right now ~105ms

 

[tkin]

Try pinging to 59.94.96.1 and 59.178.191.254.

I expect Airtel in South India to be very good for pings to other countries. Over here, it's crap.

For me intra city pings look ok'ish for BSNL, that is in India pings are ok, in speedtest.net I get around 80ms ping to indian servers, but when pinging abroad it sucks big time.

*i.imgur.com/WOR80.jpg

When I traced japan ip it also went through london and giving ~500ms latency.

BSNL Home FN500, from old ip structure(59.xx.xx.xx).

 

[vamsi_krishna]

I am getting a ping of ~35ms for google

pinging the same IPs that tkin did. I am living in tirupati, btw.

*i.imgur.com/ySoZ5.jpg

 

[tkin]

Yeah, BSNL 750UL

Previously pings were hovering around 253ms to google but right now ~105ms

Pings to google are around 55ms for me.

 

[Soumik99]

how do i measure pings to a certain website?

 

[vamsi_krishna]

^
in command prompt, enter,

ping <website address>

 

[Soumik99]

^
in command prompt, enter,

ping <website address>

okay. .. thank u.

 

[theserpent]

Yes it sucks,
In my City Mangalore all the cybers Have only players Playing CS & dota.And few ppl with gta san.Here,If you play any other game either they call you a kid or a noob.They Regard CS & dota THE WORLDS Best and Unbeatable game.I wish it changes in this part,And they start playin Some other lan game.
2)In My city,You dont get most of the games.
3)Maybe only 1000s Of people play games other than san,vc,fifa,cs,war3

 

[sukant]

If you talk about gaming at professional levels it really is a bad scene out there , these days professional tournaments are mainly held for Dota , CS 1.6 , Fifa and NFS series.

Of this games i follow cs 1.6 circuit largely because even i play a lot but in current WCG '11 India qualifiers one of the top teams in India did not participate at all because there was not a very big point winning it because the winner would not be sponsored to represent India and would have to pay out of their pocket to go to main draw and play.
For playing professionally you need to make sure your practise like for more than half a day and that too without any tension which is not possible as there are no sponsors no real income in gaming.
Unless this scene changes we wont have any improvement.

Digit as a magazine is read by many people out there so regular articles in such tech magazines may also help in bringing about awareness.

 

[masterkd]

My connection is BSNL(750UL - 512kbps)


Pinging Digit – Thinkdigit Technology Guides | Technology News Reviews |Free Downloads | Video | Tech Support Forums Online in India [122.248.250.207] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=52
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=52
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=52
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 122.248.250.207:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 93ms, Maximum = 95ms, Average = 94ms

Pinging Google [74.125.236.84] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.236.84: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=57
Reply from 74.125.236.84: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=57
Reply from 74.125.236.84: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=57
Reply from 74.125.236.84: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 74.125.236.84:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 61ms, Maximum = 64ms, Average = 62ms

Pinging store.steampowered.com [63.228.223.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=298ms TTL=57
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=298ms TTL=57
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=296ms TTL=57
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=296ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 63.228.223.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 296ms, Maximum = 298ms, Average = 297ms

 

[prudhivisekhar]

My Connection is Beam (2-10)mbps. 10 mbps limit upto 30gb download. Degrades to 2gb after 30gb limit.

C:\Users\prudhivi>ping 122.248.250.207

Pinging 122.248.250.207 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=50
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=50
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=50
Reply from 122.248.250.207: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 122.248.250.207:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 50ms, Maximum = 51ms, Average = 50ms


C:\Users\prudhivi>ping Google

Pinging Google [74.125.236.49] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.236.49: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.236.49: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.236.49: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from 74.125.236.49: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 74.125.236.49:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 27ms

C:\Users\prudhivi>ping store.steampowered.com

Pinging store.steampowered.com [63.228.223.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=48
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=48
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=48
Reply from 63.228.223.104: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 63.228.223.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 258ms, Maximum = 258ms, Average = 258ms

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

oh hell yes, it does suck to be an indian gamer

1.games are too expensive in terms of console games(which cost 3500 bucks for a new game)
2.pc games come cheap (999rs for a new game) but nobody buys legit games courtesy of those pirate whores
3.the ISP's cheat us in terms of bandwith(ahem, my 3mbps connection works at 350 kbps average tho it downloads 1 gb files in 1 hour)
4.no actual support/repairing for consoles(they promise u to get a shiny new ps3 for a dead under-warranty ps3 but u never end up getting one)
5.people expect games to come for half the price of cheap mobile games and only play CS,NFS and GTA
6.people ridicule gaming saying gaming is for kids. play cricket.beta doctor engineer bano.wtf??

 

[ruhi091]

I think this is an very interesting question.. being an gamer in India you realize that most of time the experience level is very low as it should be better.. it has to improve!!

 

[Sirakri]

Its always good for me, regarding the pings, used BSNL 2799 Plan until last month and using Reliance Freedom 999 plan right now.

I'm not buying any more games for my xbox360, just those kinect games now and then, prices just suck here.

 

[Anorion]

hmm... dont think its a technical prolem at all, there are ways to go around this thing
Its our prolem only, we dont play games seriously after college, there is no peer pressure to play games here, like there is peer pressure to listen to a particular song or watch a movie
Ive started playing some games with groups of friends, but this invariably died down within 2-4 months, nothing like the way some digital gaming scenes growing consistently for years

 

[theserpent]

My friend introduced me to a new cafe, it has a gaming mouse,keyboard,a good looking Cpu case with led lights, and a nice monitor..seeing all that i was impressed.sat on the pc..and i was i shocked....there was only Cs 1.6 and warcraft in it . Why cant they move to other games?? in india

 

[SunnyGamingHD2]

Alright lets face it, it sucks to be Indian gamer especially multiplayer because broadband in India sucks,the speeds are terrible,and plans too sucks,and worst of all we got our a****** kicked out of servers due to high pings.

so Broadband =