Does India need a revolution?

[mediator]

Hmmm so u r a congress supporter ? Looks like u have a lotta faith in congress. I agree they can change the face of India...like they did in the last 60 years? The new generation consisting of a family drama and an impotent rahul baba who says insensible stuff in public is good enough only for ekta kappor's shows. U need to read news papers more often instead of hallucinating about Hitler,stalin etc and then feeling intoxicated about it!

 

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

else Congress ,who is there in India ?? Rahul is surely future PM of India , He can change .Rahul gave good stuff in public , like partioning pakistan etc what was insensible in that . Or Other option is leftist .

BJP is no no , because it is a poisnous snake of communalism

 

[mediator]

Read and get enlightened!

Lucknow: Rahul Gandhi is "obsessed with his family", feel Islamic clerics and opposition leaders, blasting the Congress MP's remarks that the Gandhi family was responsible for India's independence and Bangladesh's creation.


The scion of India's first political family stated at an election rally in Uttar Pradesh in Badaun district Sunday that "members of the Gandhi family have always achieved the goals they have initiated - be it the nation's independence or splitting Pakistan into two by creation of Bangladesh".

The statement had invited strong disapproval from Pakistan.

Leading Shia cleric and scholar Maulana Kalbe Jawaad and Lucknow's Naib Imam Maulana Khalid Rasheed, who heads one of India's oldest Islamic institutions, Firangi Mahal, were critical of Rahul's comments.

"Is he is so obsessed with his family that he wants to hog all the credit for anything and everything? Then he should also be ready to take the blame for the partition of India as well," observed Jawaad. "Perhaps he forgot to add that."

"I really wonder why he was out to give a handle to communal forces by making such statements at a time when the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party) and its allies are desperately trying to fan communal passions," Rasheed told IANS Monday.

"I fail to understand what makes Rahul think that both the partition of the country or creation of Bangladesh were any kind of feather in the Gandhi family cap," he said.

"In fact, both were retrograde steps that failed to help India in any manner. Wouldn't it have been so much better if we were one big nation?"

On Rahul's remarks on India's independence, the Maulana wanted counseled Rahul: "He must realise that there were very many other leaders who laid down their lives for our independence. How could he go to the extent of even ignoring the father of the nation Mahatma Gandhi?"

Interestingly, even BJP veteran Lalji Tandon sought to know "if Rahul was trying to confuse the people of this country that his Gandhi lineage was the same as that of Mahatma Gandhi?"

Tandon, who, besides being former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's Man Friday in Lucknow is also the state's opposition leader in the assemb ly, added sarcastically: "I have known a lot of foreigners who believe the Nehru-Gandhi clan to be a part of Mahatma Gandhi's family. And I would not be surprised if an ignorant Rahul too lives under that illusion."

BJP state president Keshrinath Tripathi, also a highly accomplished lawyer at the Allahabad High Court, flayed Rahul Gandhi for being "too obsessed" with his own family.

"Apparently, Rahul has yet to grow out of a mindset where he cannot think beyond his own family. I will not be surprised if he actually believes that it was just his Gandhi family that got India independence. Maybe, Mahatma Gandhi does not figure in his list at all," Tripathi said.

Samajwadi Party general secretary Amar Singh dismissed Rahul's remark as an expression of his "bid to hog the limelight in a state where the Congress exists only for namesake".

"Rahul Gandhi keeps issuing such immature statements so that he can remain in the headlines. After all, he knows that his party only has marginal presence in this state," he said.

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So u see ur saviour Rahul Baba in which u have such a fervent belief is nuthing but an ignorant, immature, family-obsessed kid! All that congress did so far is causing partition of India and other miseries (which I don't expect u to know about) which is the cause of the Kashmir trouble, terrorist bombings in India etc. So please be my guest, worship Rahul baba as much as u want.
A person's role model reflects his personality, mentality, social outlook etc. Wise people have wise role models. But urs is Rahul Baba. How laughable!

 

[amol48]

Read and get enlightened!
So u see ur saviour Rahul Baba in which u have such a fervent belief is nuthing but an ignorant, immature, family-obsessed kid! All that congress did so far is causing partition of India and other miseries (which I don't expect u to know about) which is the cause of the Kashmir trouble, terrorist bombings in India etc. So please be my guest, worship Rahul baba as much as u want.
A person's role model reflects his personality, mentality, social outlook etc. Wise people have wise role models. But urs is Rahul Baba. How laughable!

Agreed Completely

 

[keep_it_rl]

yepp yepp yepp
u guys are all talk and no action...
U All r talkin bout wht India needs
For a change lets talk bout wht u can contribute towards that need..
Can u do rallies in the scorching summer Like rahul did.
Can u
I'm not saying that rahul is the ray of hope or anything
Moreover i hate Congress(The way they use reservation trump card)
So stop Criticizing
Its easy to criticize than to be correct.

 

[mediator]

Can u do rallies in the scorching summer Like rahul did.

Can u do rath yatra at the age of 70+ like advani did? I hope u know what rath yatra is!

More, can u stage anti-reservation protest like we students in Delhi did? Can u go on hunger strike for several weeks and bear the lathis and water cannons of police?
U think all we do is talk, then tell who gave the data to SC about OBC that it was based on 1930s statstics? Why the SC has stayed the 27% reservation?

If u have seen enough of Rang De Basanti then please do the necessary! Such problems can be dealt with if we discuss this more and more. I hope u understand that!

 

[sadabakwas]

Read and get enlightened!
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So u see ur saviour Rahul Baba in which u have such a fervent belief is nuthing but an ignorant, immature, family-obsessed kid! All that congress did so far is causing partition of India and other miseries (which I don't expect u to know about) which is the cause of the Kashmir trouble, terrorist bombings in India etc. So please be my guest, worship Rahul baba as much as u want.
A person's role model reflects his personality, mentality, social outlook etc. Wise people have wise role models. But urs is Rahul Baba. How laughable!

and is yours a shia cleric? are you a shia muslim?

 

[mediator]

As sunny deol says, "I'm Indian"!

 

[Yamaraj]

and is yours a shia cleric? are you a shia muslim?

Are you a Bangladeshi?

 

[thunderbird.117]

Are you a Bangladeshi?

Or are you a Pakistani?.

....

 

[amol48]

i think it's better for us to stay in our own country..!!!

 

[keep_it_rl]

Can u do rath yatra at the age of 70+ like advani did? I hope u know what rath yatra is!

More, can u stage anti-reservation protest like we students in Delhi did? Can u go on hunger strike for several weeks and bear the lathis and water cannons of police?
U think all we do is talk, then tell who gave the data to SC about OBC that it was based on 1930s statstics? Why the SC has stayed the 27% reservation?

If u have seen enough of Rang De Basanti then please do the necessary! Such problems can be dealt with if we discuss this more and more. I hope u understand that!

wht does that suppose to mean....Read ah post agin ..
I never compared Rahul ghandi with anybody..
I think Students protesting against reservation is awesome...
But i hate Advani Bcoz
They always supported Hindutva and Saman Achar Sahinta
wanna read more bout it
*www.bjp.org/history/htvintro-mm.html

But when Arjun Singh Declared 25% reservation They were no where to be seen
No statements ,nothing..
Students were harassed by the police in those rallies,Still they where hiding in their closets..
Btw i was a part of that rally..

VHP and RSS who oppose valentines day and burn shops down on the name of Hindutva didnt utter a word when muslims were declared a minority..
Rahul is young and i hope he has fresh ideas he is the best choice until a revolution..


Dude u sound a real Forum addict to me.
With no social life at all.
I bet u download all the movies u watch..
Keep on Cryin about the problems in the thread with less than 20 subscribers.
Oh my god ur goin to change this country..

 

[mediator]

Are u ok? Flames bounces off my head u know. U r speaking like a constipated kid unable to speak to the topic, to the point!

 

[Yamaraj]

But i hate Advani Bcoz
They always supported Hindutva and Saman Achar Sahinta

And what's so bad about it? Why only Muslims should have their personal laws? Let's have separate laws and constitution for every religion, sect and neighbourhood, and watch our nation disintegrate before our own eyes.

Why is that it's "secular" to talk about Islamic laws and shariya, and "fundamentalism" when it comes to Hindutva? Why is it that muslims got away with their own Islamic country, and still demand special rights here? I have nothing personal against muslims, but I'm a strong supporter of a "Common Civil Code". Any form of appeasement must be stopped in the benefit of this country and its integrity.

 

[mediator]

@keep_it_rl: WTH, u edited ur post!

Rahul is young, but he is an immature, ignorant, family obsessed kid! Read post #184. Thats correct they shud have spoken when reservation was implemented and other things u said.

But did Rahul oppose reservation? Did he oppose muslim reservation, the concept of muslim vote? Did he ever went to remotest vollages of North-east and Bihar? Did he ever condemned his forefather's actions of diving the country to paki-India and other miseries that congress caused? Why doesn't he addresses bangladeshi immigration problem?

Why is it Bukari is still roaming around freely when he has several complaints against him? Why is he not preaching but doing politics? Why is it that only middle class hindus have to suffer and have to compromise? Why do they see the godhra issue in favour of Muslims when it was the muslims who started the whole issue and burnt the train?

So if other party's appeasing in favour of minority isn't communal, then I don't see RSS,VHP etc as communal either!

As far BJP is concerned, the country had the max. piece in that era of Vajpayee. They did more good to this country in 5 years than congress destroyed the country in their 50+ yrs of rule. In BJP's time we didn't see so much misery that we see now. Atleast BJP has some educated leaders, but congress is so short of leaders that it nominated a firangi as the party leader and instead of "electing", it "selected" a dummy as a PM.

So saying Rahul is the future is quite insensible when u can see how he is performing in the public and speaking immature words! "Con"gress is the opposite is "Pros"gress/Progress.

Neways its good to see someone who took part in the rallies tooo.

 

[Yamaraj]

else Congress ,who is there in India ?? Rahul is surely future PM of India , He can change .Rahul gave good stuff in public , like partioning pakistan etc what was insensible in that . Or Other option is leftist .

BJP is no no , because it is a poisnous snake of communalism

First things first.

1. Indira "Nehru" was the daughter of Jawahar Lal Nehru.
2. She asked "Bapu Gandhi" to adopt "Firoz Khan", so she could marry him as per her father's desires.
3. Rajiv Khan-Nehru-Gandhi was the son of Indira Khan-Nehru-Gandhi.
4. He changed his name to "Rajiv Roberto", so he could marry Sonia Maino.
5. Raul (not "Rahul") and Bianca (not "Priyanka") Roberto-Maino-Khan-Nehru-Gandhi belong to a clan of liars and fakers. They're nobody.

Raul doesn't have the experience, skills, or anything else that it takes to be the Prime Minister of a country as large and susceptible to disintegration as India.

And, why can't you be the PM, or me, or someone else? If this nation is to survive, we must get rid of this fake clan of liars and traitors of motherland.

 

[mediator]

Even I didn't know about this "select an option"/"audience poll"/50-50/phone a friend thing about "Roberto-Maino-Khan-Nehru-Gandhi". Hmmmm!

So in short "Gali ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka"....this is what congress's family drama is about!!

 

[keep_it_rl]

And what's so bad about it? Why only Muslims should have their personal laws? Let's have separate laws and constitution for every religion, sect and neighbourhood, and watch our nation disintegrate before our own eyes.

Why is that it's "secular" to talk about Islamic laws and shariya, and "fundamentalism" when it comes to Hindutva? Why is it that muslims got away with their own Islamic country, and still demand special rights here? I have nothing personal against muslims, but I'm a strong supporter of a "Common Civil Code". Any form of appeasement must be stopped in the benefit of this country and its integrity.

Aye aye Dude ..Read the post carefully before giving ur expert comment...

But i hate Advani Bcoz
They always supported Hindutva and Saman Achar Sahinta
wanna read more bout it
*www.bjp.org/history/htvintro-mm.html
But when Arjun Singh Declared 25% reservation They were no where to be seen
No statements ,nothing..
Students were harassed by the police in those rallies,Still they where hiding in their closets..
Btw i was a part of that rally..

VHP and RSS who oppose valentines day and burn shops down on the name of Hindutva didnt utter a word when muslims were declared a minority..
Rahul is young and i hope he has fresh ideas he is the best choice until a revolution..

 

[Yamaraj]

Aye aye Dude ..Read the post carefully before giving ur expert comment...

You should thank me for not commenting on your excellent writing style.

 

[keep_it_rl]

@keep_it_rl: WTH, u edited ur post!

Rahul is young, but he is an immature, ignorant, family obsessed kid! Read post #184. Thats correct they shud have spoken when reservation was implemented and other things u said.

But did Rahul oppose reservation? Did he oppose muslim reservation, the concept of muslim vote? Did he ever went to remotest vollages of North-east and Bihar? Did he ever condemned his forefather's actions of diving the country to paki-India and other miseries that congress caused? Why doesn't he addresses bangladeshi immigration problem?

Why is it Bukari is still roaming around freely when he has several complaints against him? Why is he not preaching but doing politics? Why is it that only middle class hindus have to suffer and have to compromise? Why do they see the godhra issue in favour of Muslims when it was the muslims who started the whole issue and burnt the train?

So if other party's appeasing in favour of minority isn't communal, then I don't see RSS,VHP etc as communal either!


So saying Rahul is the future is quite insensible when u can see how he is performing in the public and speaking immature words! "Con"gress is the opposite is "Pros"gress/Progress.

Neways its good to see someone who took part in the rallies tooo.

Dude the point im tryna make out here is...all the politicians are same ..I used to be a hardcore supporter BJP was a part of vhp for 2 years
They came into power because of hindutva But did nothin for it..
And thts crazy they started following What they always reffered as pseudo secularism...
They belived in removing reservation completely but did nothing about ..
They only thing matters to them is being in power .And they can bend their ideology according to their needs

As far BJP is concerned, the country had the max. piece in that era of Vajpayee. They did more good to this country in 5 years than congress destroyed the country in their 50+ yrs of rule. In BJP's time we didn't see so much misery that we see now. Atleast BJP has some educated leaders, but congress is so short of leaders that it nominated a firangi as the party leader and instead of "electing", it "selected" a dummy as a PM.

ur so ignorant of the facts and still under the influence of India shining ..
Process of liberalization started under the rule of Rajiv Ghandi..And its results were on its full peak ,whn BJP was in power so they tried to take the credit...

India used be a socialist country in years after independence to allow indigenous Businesses to grow and develop.Than in 90s process of liberalization started.Duties,taxes for non Indian companies reduced ..And dude BJP Has nothing to do with it.
Our economy and GDP is growin on the same rate...just check the facts..