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sujoyp

Grand Master
@nac remember I am newly married :D not easy to convince wife to get a 50k lens rather then putting that 50k as car downpayment ;)
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
@nac yaah soo many things.. for phone I am waiting for one plus 5 ...for bike I am not convinced enough with any of it in the market right now under 1.5 lakh...car I have postponed...so I am left with getting the lens first :D I have been waiting to get it for soo long yaar
 
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@nac yaah soo many things.. for phone I am waiting for one plus 5 ...for bike I am not convinced enough with any of it in the market right now under 1.5 lakh...car I have postponed...so I am left with getting the lens first :D I have been waiting to get it for soo long yaar
Sometimes...I feel lucky that I'm still a student. Have to manage only housing ='D
 

CRACING

Journeyman
@CRACING Bought 50mm AFD lens? If not there is a listing in JJMPF WTS: Nikon D7000 + Nikon 35mm F/1.8G + Nikon 50mm F/1.8D + Battery Grip

Check that out...

Since several weeks I have been facing lag in this forum. Pages take ages to open so I couldn't check new posts. Today the template and something else changed in this forum and its working normal again. I'm so glad. :)

Yeah, I have checked the listing already but he doesn't ship, only pick up.

@Siddhartht look at the other side...my 150-500 can take sharp pics only at f8 and above...this is a big disadvatage coz birds are not found in afternoon when light is bright...they are found only in morning and evening...and that makes the lens less then perfect...the other two lens 300f4 and 200-500 5.6 are sharp even at f4 and f5.6 which make them usable in early mornnings...
and when you say why not sigma/tamron 150-600 then reason is same...wont do the mistake again.

I have similar problem with my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm. To get sharp photos, I need to use f8 atleast but it also requires high iso. At f5.6, subjects are okayish.

If Nikon 300mm or 200-500mm would give you sharp pic at widest aperture then go for it. I would suggest to take trial of both lenses so you can be sure which works best for you. I like zoom lens for bird photography.
 
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sujoyp

Grand Master
:D yes ...do you want to give a try...but then you will need me to pack it safely and send it to you ... hmm lot of things to be done
 
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CRACING

Journeyman
If it's alright, ask someone to check/collect/ship for you. There are digitians from Mumbai who may do if they are free...

:D yes ...do you want to give a try...but then you will need me to pack it safely and send it to you ... hmm lot of things to be done

Thanks guys but its ok. I have postponed the purchase of 50mm lens because my 18-55mm is fulfilling the needs, just that it needs enough light. 35mm is my main lens and I will make full use of it. :)
 
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nac

Aspiring Novelist
I was looking at the sample photos of this lens (Sony FE 100mm F2.8 STF GM OSS) in dpreview. There is no one photos are taken wide open @ f/2.8, the widest I could see are f/5.6. Tried to find the reasons online, and I see this detail along with f number T5.6-20 (I have seen this T number for cine lenses, I am not sure why it's here. Does this mean, if this lens used in cine cameras, the widest they could go is T/5.6? Checked about 10 photos in flickr, the widest I could see is f/5.6. Is this deliberate that the photographer shot them at f/5.6 or a limitation? Yes, they shot with Sony cameras - A7R M2. or may be because it's a soft focus lens, the stop down to f/5.6?
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
@nac f5.6 seems very logical for a cine lens....below f5.6 cine lens have nothing...director have lot of difficulty getting 2 faces in focus at f2.8...so thats not of much use...
 
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nac

Aspiring Novelist
@nac f5.6 seems very logical for a cine lens....below f5.6 cine lens have nothing...director have lot of difficulty getting 2 faces in focus at f2.8...so thats not of much use...
I have seen faster cine lens, I think.

Coming to this lens, why f/5.6 and why not f/2.8 when it is a f/2.8 lens?
 
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nac

Aspiring Novelist
Imaging resource explained this f/2. 8 | T/5.6 thing in their review. Sony FE 100mm f/2.8 STF GM OSS SEL100F28GM Review
Sony 100mm f/2.8 STF G: It's actually an f/5.6.
The most immediate cost of apodization is that the process by nature reduces the available light coming through the lens, when compared to the same diameter clear aperture on a conventional lens. (This is measured as the T-stop (for light "transmission"), vs F-stop, which refers onliy to the size of the aperture relative to the focal length of the lens.) For the Sony FE 100mm f/2.8 STF G, the T-stop while wide open is the equivalent of an f/5.6 aperture. That's two full stops of light loss!
 
Honestly, I wouldn't look at the transmittance so much. Complex lens design with more elements will lead to "wastage" of light, which might be true, but doesn't affect real world performance that much. My Sigma 30/1.4 has similar T rating as Sony 35/1.8, still the optical performance is better and DOF doesn't depend on transmittance but rather purely on aperture.
 
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sujoyp

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hmm so they added a new term it seems..t-stop ...but really i dont think any pro quality video will be shot at f2.8...i find it soo hard to shoot 2 persons at f2.8 with both faces in focus. f2.8 cine lens can be used for creativity purpose only.
 
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nac

Aspiring Novelist
hmm so they added a new term it seems..t-stop ...but really i dont think any pro quality video will be shot at f2.8...i find it soo hard to shoot 2 persons at f2.8 with both faces in focus. f2.8 cine lens can be used for creativity purpose only.
Yeah, new to still photography lenses. I have seen some bokehlicious videos, photography/videography is art and it's all about creativity.
It's distance and focal length. If you want to shoot group photo wide open, step back. You will get them in focus. I am theoretically speaking, I don't know how hard it is in real.

f/2.5 | F 50mm
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f/2.8 | F 50mm
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sujoyp

Grand Master
wow these are shot at f2.8 ...there is soo much to learn in photography.

BTW I am putting my 150-500 for sale very soon...but bad news is it got slight fungus on front element...but at least its not effecting photos...should I clean it and sell it for 25-27k or give discount @22k
 
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nac

Aspiring Novelist
BTW I am putting my 150-500 for sale very soon...but bad news is it got slight fungus on front element...but at least its not effecting photos...should I clean it and sell it for 25-27k or give discount @22k
22k without cleaning seems like a better deal for buyer than 25-27k cleaned. I would expect 22k deal sell sooner than the other deal. When you list, give these two options and see which one people likes to take.
 
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