Camera talk...

Zangetsu

Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
Guys is buying DSLR is good or Super Zoom Cameras if one is looking for optical zoom ?

Such as Sony H400 with 63x zoom or Nikon B700 with 60x zoom
 
OP
nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
If optical zoom is the only priority, yeah bridge cameras is the way to go.

There is a huge price difference between the two models. What's the budget?

Strike H400 out, it ain't a good one. B700 or even P900 if budget permits.
 
Zangetsu

Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
nac said:
If optical zoom is the only priority, yeah bridge cameras is the way to go.

There is a huge price difference between the two models. What's the budget?

Strike H400 out, it ain't a good one. B700 or even P900 if budget permits.
Click to expand...
What about the Image Quality/Clarity...can it compete with a DSLR to some extent at least o_O
 
OP
nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
@CRACING Bought 50mm AFD lens? If not there is a listing in JJMPF WTS: Nikon D7000 + Nikon 35mm F/1.8G + Nikon 50mm F/1.8D + Battery Grip

Check that out...
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Hey nac and others can you give a suggestion weather I should go for Nikon 300f4+TC =50k or Nikon 200-500 VR =75k ...I am very confused..both look good..
 
OP
nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
I don't have first hand experience shooting with these lenses. You already have Sigma 150-500, why not try that instead of getting a new one. Winter is not just around the corner, try Sigma. It will help you figure out whether you need a new super telephoto (or even super telephoto for that matter) or not.

Up to my knowledge, you don't use those tele focal lengths much. You can borrow or rent one when/if you need (which I hope would be once in 3-5 yrs ;) )
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
no no my plan is to start birding again from this winter :) Also I have many plan to go to Gir Jungle and Jamnagar for birds.
I have tried enough and feel Sigma 150-500 IQ is just nowhere near what we get from 300f4. Although I would face huge monitery loss selling it but I just want my lens IQ to be good in the shoots...shooting at f8 is just impossible coz we generally shoot at early morning or evening.
Also I have the purse to afford one of the better lens. I will get it around july but as the price differece is 25k I am not able to decide. I have to save for it .
 
OP
nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Weigh the pros and cons and decide.

Sigma 150-500 vs 300 f/4 vs 200-500 VR

Sigma 150-500
+ Not gonna cost you
+ OS
- Colour and contrast

300 f/4
+ Faster when you don't use TC
+ Better IQ
+ Cheaper
- Non VR
- Comparitively shorter reach, though not significant after adding TC

200-500 VR
+ VR
+ Versatile
- Expensive

By the way, do you have big enough bag to fit this lens? :D
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Nikon 300f4 is f5.6 when used with TC. Its 420 f5.6 where 200-500 is 500 f5.6 but maybe not sharp till 500mm .
So I dont give advantage of focal length to 200-500. yes VR is something special on 200-500.

If I can carry 1.8KG Sigma 150-500 so I can carry a 2.2 KG 200-500 :D :D

Nikon 300mm f4 Non-VR - Nikon 300mm f/4 AF-S Review

Nikkon 200-500 VR - Nikon 200-500mm VR Review
 
  • Like
Reactions: nac
S

Siddhartht

Void
sujoyp said:
Nikon 300f4 is f5.6 when used with TC. Its 420 f5.6 where 200-500 is 500 f5.6 but maybe not sharp till 500mm .
So I dont give advantage of focal length to 200-500. yes VR is something special on 200-500.

If I can carry 1.8KG Sigma 150-500 so I can carry a 2.2 KG 200-500 :D :D

Nikon 300mm f4 Non-VR - Nikon 300mm f/4 AF-S Review

Nikkon 200-500 VR - Nikon 200-500mm VR Review
Click to expand...

I'm not sure, but a camera upgrade will help you too. D7000 is good, but the low light performance of D7500/D7200 is much better(both of them use Sony sensors if I'm correct, D7500 is practically less fancy D5). Better low light sensitivity = Ability to stop down.
Also, there is a huge difference for optics when moving from 16 to 24mp (specially for certain lenses). One my friend's NEX-7(which was one of the first in 24MP class) had trouble utilizing the old E mount lens lineup(pre 2013), images were just not sharp enough.
And honestly, if you are thinking of going big, why not 150-600mm f/5-6.3 (from Sigma and Tamron)? I mean, ultimately you will end up with a big and expensive, but do it all lens, instead of owning 2 separate lenses for mid and long end.

I'm thinking of buying Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 ART with MC-11 adapter soon...let's see how it will work without optical image stabilization. Ultimately, I will reduce my system to just 2 primary lenses, Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 ART with a backup prime. Can't be bothered with too many lenses.

I was thinking, and finally created a long term(next 5 years) roadmap for purchases:
Going to sell: Sony A6000, Zeiss 16-70 f/4 (Not at all good), Kit lens
APS-C
Sony A6500 successor + Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 + Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 ART + Sigma 30mm f/1.4 Contemporary + (Sony 16mm f/2.8 + VCL-ECU1 = 12mm)
Fullframe
Sony A7R ii successor + Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 (This option will be used mostly with portraits. I love APS-C for everything else)
Compact
Fujifilm X100F or Sony RX100 (X100F isn't exactly compact...but is just beautiful)
Edit: And a second hand or fully manual cine lens. I used my friend's Fujinon MK series lens and it was...different. I some time help my friends with their video projects, and a lens like that will certainly help, specially with the lack of focus breathing and ability to hold focus.
 
Last edited:
S

Siddhartht

Void
nac said:
@sujoyp , This is the lens you have, right? Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM Lens for Nikon F 737306


You mean all the three set or one of the three?
Click to expand...
Yup, since I will probably buy one or two gears in a year, so it all balances out. I'm not sure about the fullframe though. If Sony prices it in the crazy category, then I may go for previous generation models.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
nac said:
@sujoyp , This is the lens you have, right? Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM Lens for Nikon F 737306


You mean all the three set or one of the three?
Click to expand...
Yes nac.. I have the same..
What siddharth said is the same I am doing..I carry only my 35mm 1.8 with me these days..if macro required then a 90 mm 2.8 and if birding is there then 150-500.. I just want to upgrade from 150-500... Maybe I will get 300 mmf4 with tc..since 200-500 is soo costly
 
S

Siddhartht

Void
sujoyp said:
Yes nac.. I have the same..
What siddharth said is the same I am doing..I carry only my 35mm 1.8 with me these days..if macro required then a 90 mm 2.8 and if birding is there then 150-500.. I just want to upgrade from 150-500... Maybe I will get 300 mmf4 with tc..since 200-500 is soo costly
Click to expand...
But I don't understand the upgrade part. Do you think you will get significant improvement ? I'm not really sure, since people don't usually play with depth of field that much which taking pictures of birds or so.
 
Last edited:
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
@Siddhartht look at the other side...my 150-500 can take sharp pics only at f8 and above...this is a big disadvatage coz birds are not found in afternoon when light is bright...they are found only in morning and evening...and that makes the lens less then perfect...the other two lens 300f4 and 200-500 5.6 are sharp even at f4 and f5.6 which make them usable in early mornnings...
and when you say why not sigma/tamron 150-600 then reason is same...wont do the mistake again.


@nac i am not moving to full frame soon...I a happy with what I have..just the birding lens is still not the best one...then I wont need anything much.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom