Camera talk...

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Siddhartht

Void
sujoyp said:
[MENTION=125321]nac[/MENTION] yaah will sell off my Sigma 150-500 very soon. Its sleeping in Nagpur right now :D
[MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] you are right about being light weight. but it all depends on what you are shooting. You can never be light weight if you are birding. Lens are big and heavy. Similarly if shooting macro you will have to bear the weight of single or multiple flash.
Even for landscapes we ideally should use tripod with us . I am happy with D7000+35mm ..its versetile and sharp

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[MENTION=125321]nac[/MENTION] you are right nac, I am not using sigma 150-500 much what will be use of getting soo costly 200-500 ...umm better I search for a good deal on Nikon 300 f4 which is selling for 37 now. almost half the cost of 200-500 . will get a 1.4 tc too
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I agree, but I'm more into portraits and landscape, so a versatile zoom works for me, most of the time.
I have been thinking for a while, and I think I will probably buy Pentax-K1 (finally going full frame), because it's cheaper than Sony offering and has an excellent 24-70/2.8 standard zoom. My A6000 kind of failed in heavy snow..and I hope to get it working after repair, but if it doesn't, Pentax it is. (It's funny how my tone has changed from pro MILC to pro DSLR)
 
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sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=284377]Siddhartht[/MENTION] :) its all about requirements and budget bro ...its difficult when you have lot of investment on single brand like me on nikon...but if you are not loosing much then you can jump from sony to pentax.
 
saikiasunny

saikiasunny

Ambassador of Buzz
nac said:
Is this full size image or 100% crop? Try and get more bokeh (brighter) balls.
It's likely dusts on the rear and that too very less amount of dust. Just clean front and rear with lens cleaner and check again if you still see those dots.
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It's actually full image just resized to a smaller size. I will clean and click some more photos. Have you ever seen such dots on your photos?
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Yesterday first time in my life I suggested a mobile camera on a P&S. One of my friend was asking which P&S cam should he get under 20k , I said better add some more money and get mobiles like S7 and One plus 3 which have great cams. p&s is out of market now.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
sujoyp said:
Yesterday first time in my life I suggested a mobile camera on a P&S. One of my friend was asking which P&S cam should he get under 20k , I said better add some more money and get mobiles like S7 and One plus 3 which have great cams. p&s is out of market now.
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Come on...

I hope his photography needs don't demand a dedicated camera.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
he is a starter...nowdays I have seen people getting irritated that I cant share the dslr pics on whatsapp instantly...DSLR is good for PHOTOGRAPHY but not at all good for day to day pics..soo many times people tell me to keep the dslr inside and shoot with mobile cams and send them pics.

Mobiles like S7 or oneplus 3T have similar sensor like P&S and can take nice shots..So I take my camera depending on situations now ;)
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
sujoyp said:
he is a starter...
nowdays I have seen people getting irritated that I cant share the dslr pics on whatsapp instantly...
DSLR is good for PHOTOGRAPHY but not at all good for day to day pics..
soo many times people tell me to keep the dslr inside and shoot with mobile cams and send them pics.
Mobiles like S7 or oneplus 3T have similar sensor like P&S and can take nice shots.
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Starter or not, dedicated camera is a better option if he is interested in photography esp. if he have no dedicated camera already.
That I faced too. People thought my camera have a WIFI :D Most of the cameras today comes with WIFI.
Agreed.
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Agreed. I have used S7 camera. Low light performance (SOOC jpeg) is much better than my camera or at least that's the impression I got when I reviewed the pictures in the phone screen.
 
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raja manuel

In the zone
Yeah, I think the cameras we recommend should be what the person would actually use. There is no need to get more camera than you need, and there is a lot of photography one can pursue with a mobile phone. Artistry doesn't depend on the equipment. And if they are only seeing photos on a mobile screen, which is what most people do nowadays, then they may never notice the deficiencies in the camera (or the post processing).
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
mobiles also have OIS nowdays which mostly help in videos but at least it helps. Funny thing is people try Mobile digital zoom to take pics which is just like taking a pic and zooming it on screen.iphone7 have optical zoom I think.
 
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Siddhartht

Void
sujoyp said:
mobiles also have OIS nowdays which mostly help in videos but at least it helps. Funny thing is people try Mobile digital zoom to take pics which is just like taking a pic and zooming it on screen.iphone7 have optical zoom I think.
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Not a true zoom exactly. Most of the dual sensor phones have two different focal lengths, meaning the images have slight separation due to parallax, which is mostly corrected by software. There have been some true zoom cell phones, one being Asus Zenphone Zoom, which uses a rather complex camera setup for a phone (*cf-attach.i-sogi.com/tw/article/img/201512/2015120509480512893_ExtraLargeSize-640x640.jpg). The other kind of "zoom" was found in (I would say legendary) Nokia pureview 808 and 1020, with roughly 39MP cameras sampling images to 5MP and 8MP, and since there strange kind of pixel binning/image compression going on, they could allow zooming in to certain parts of images with full pixel readout.

For me, Nokia 1020 is THE camera phone, nothing ever come close to it in real world performance, camera application had no gimmicks, supported DNG output and had excellent image quality. I hope that the new "Nokia" still owns the design used in that phone. I have been using S7 Edge and I find the camera to be okay, excellent low light performance but the comparisons between pro level point and shoot stop there. Even the cheapest Sony RX100x will perform better than it (or Ricoh GR/APS-C, which is sadly not available in India). These compact pocketable point and shoot with 1in sensors are better...if the person is really interested in photography (on go).

Edit: There is also Panasonic CM1, phone camera, or how Panasonic calls it.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=3228]siddharth[/MENTION] ...As I said person interested in even 10% of photography may buy a advance P&S or a superzoom ..but people having a budget of 15k for cam will go nowhere it seems.
And question is how will they transfer the pics to mobile instantly and upload to FB and whatsapp :p
 
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Siddhartht

Void
So while we are having camera talk and seeing that how it is silent....here is a new gear I purchased...Sigma 30mm/1.4
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sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
30 1.4 ...thats a big buy ...soo when you sell sony you will have something exciting to sell along :D :D

:meditate: dreaming of my lens :)
 
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Siddhartht

Void
nac said:
Art?
For your Sony? No Pentax FF?
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I was thinking of Pentax, but the problem is with service here in Sweden. Plus, all the rumors surrounding Ricoh scaling down their camera business are scary. Another thing - when I checked my balance, I found out that I can probably afford a new camera next year only, so decided to go with this lens for now. (Oh, and it is Contemporary, I don't think there is any (good and fast) Art available for E-Mount, unless I use MC-11 converter)
[MENTION=39722]sujoyp[/MENTION], honestly, this lens is terrific, specially the focusing system. It is way better than Sigma 19/2.8 and optically the lens competes with Sony/Zeiss primes(Not Batis, but Touit), with a much lower price point. The only problem so far with this lens is CA, which...I can live with. I may keep the camera as a secondary gear anyway, since the resale value for A6000 is pretty much non existent. The lens is big and slightly heavy but is doable around city and so.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
yes A6000 price is very low then what I expected..it was selling for 20k body ...if someone can buy a 20k body with a 20k prime lens then it will be super compact combo.
 
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Siddhartht

Void
sujoyp said:
yes A6000 price is very low then what I expected..it was selling for 20k body ...if someone can buy a 20k body with a 20k prime lens then it will be super compact combo.
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Super cheap, yes. Super compact...maybe ? I think Pen-F with 12-40mm f2.8 (expensive) or 45mm f1.8 (Nearly same price as mine) is a better combo. The only problem with M 4/3 is loss of flexibility. While I can use speed boosters to get near FF on my APS-C Sony, speed boosters on M 4/3 are not that versatile nor I can use Sigma lenses using MC-11 converter (which offers near native AF) (but honestly, nothing beats the lens library from Olympus and Panasonic/Leica).
 
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