Camera talk...

sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=125321]nac[/MENTION] LOL I cant run that much bro :D so what should I do to protect my dslr from heavy rains...light shower it can handle

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I got mini hand grip tripod from aliexpress few months ago. Product quality is good and holds my DSLR firmly. Camera can be tilted but cannot raise the height.

Check my review of that product here (Post #395)

Flexible tripods are also available in aliexpress but I doubt how well they hold heavy camera. That is why I went for fixed tripod.

thanks...that handgrip is something new for me..interesting
 

CRACING

Journeyman
Wow!!! Are those photographs taken by you?

Yep, using my home made light tent, card sheet and tube light. :)

Marumi filter box was shot outside with improper lighting so it came dull and has gray background.

thanks...that handgrip is something new for me..interesting

I hope it helps you. Doesn't cost much to try either. :)

Have you bought anything from Aliexpress or Ebay.com?
 

CRACING

Journeyman
Hello Friends,

My Sandisk Ultra Class 10 8GB card (That was provided with the DSLR purchase) has been insufficient lately so I was looking for bigger size and faster card.

Yesterday I had some time to research and eventually placed order for Sandisk Extreme SDHC UHS-I U3 32GB on ebay India. It has read speed upto 90MB/s and write speed upto 40MB/s, which I believe is sufficient for my Nikon D3200 and I don't do video recording for more speeds.

However, later I did little glance over other items from the same seller and saw another card, Sony 32GB SDHC UHS-I U3 (SF-32UX2) which has read speed upto 94MB/s and write speed upto 70MB/s! and costs nearly same as Sandisk Extreme card (1.3k). Felt like I should have spent more time to research before placing order.

Do you guys think I should have chosen Sony instead of Sandisk? Whether the faster write speed of Sony card (70MB/s) would have increased the performance of my camera?

AFAIK, the camera doesn't write directly to card when a picture is taken but to a buffer which is later transferred to the card. That write speed is limited and I doubt it will be more then 50MB/s.

Hope I don't get regretted. :confused_NF:

Thanks...
Best Regards
 

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
It depends a lot on how fast the camera itself can write as well. Mostly a difference of 50 vs 70 will not be that noticeable if at all.
 

CRACING

Journeyman
Hello [MENTION=8593]izzikio_rage[/MENTION],

Yes you are right. I have checked benchmark report in Camera Memory Speed website and some entry-level models are capable of writing faster then higher-end models with the same card. For example, D3300 has an average write speed of 70MB/s and D5300 has an average write speed of 50MB/s when tested with SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB R:95MB/s W:90MB/s.

May be I was simply worried about write speed but what really matters is read speed so that I can transfer files to PC quickly and more space to store many clicks. RAW + Continuous Shooting takes up memory very fast.

The card I have ordered fulfills my requirements and that gives me relief. Now eagerly waiting for it. :smile_NF:

Thanks...
Best Regards
 

raja manuel

In the zone
Why does read speed matter that much to you? Unless you're photographing the Olympics or something like that, you have plenty of time to transfer photos to your computer whereas you have very little time to capture the perfect moment. A quicker write speed effectively increases your burst's buffer depth, and reduces time to your next shot.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
really read speed matters more ?? you will be able to transfer it fast only if you have USB3 enable card reader...did you buy it already? else USB2 have the same crappy max 20MBps copy speed
 

CRACING

Journeyman
Why does read speed matter that much to you? Unless you're photographing the Olympics or something like that, you have plenty of time to transfer photos to your computer whereas you have very little time to capture the perfect moment. A quicker write speed effectively increases your burst's buffer depth, and reduces time to your next shot.

I take bird photography and sometimes I use continuous mode. The card I have now (Sandisk Ultra 8GB) has very low write speed (10MB/s) and due to that I have to wait for buffer to clear for next shots, missing nice opportunities.

Of course my camera is low-end but the card is too slow. However, its a freebie card provided with camera so cannot expect more from it.

New card has 40MB/s write speed so I hope my camera gets little faster. :)

really read speed matters more ?? you will be able to transfer it fast only if you have USB3 enable card reader...did you buy it already? else USB2 have the same crappy max 20MBps copy speed

Yep, my pc has USB3 port and I have USB3 card reader (Kingston Mobilelite G4). With that card reader and Sandisk Ultra, I get copy speed upto 40MB/s. Will see how much I get with Sandisk Extreme card.

Btw; Please do tell me which card do you all use on your cameras?
 

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
Any idea where i can get a gorillapod? Amazon shows this but the gorillapod hybrid is crazy overpriced ($25 in US vs Rs.3500 here)

My old one is now almost dead.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
I take bird photography and sometimes I use continuous mode. The card I have now (Sandisk Ultra 8GB) has very low write speed (10MB/s) and due to that I have to wait for buffer to clear for next shots, missing nice opportunities.

Of course my camera is low-end but the card is too slow. However, its a freebie card provided with camera so cannot expect more from it.

New card has 40MB/s write speed so I hope my camera gets little faster. :)



Yep, my pc has USB3 port and I have USB3 card reader (Kingston Mobilelite G4). With that card reader and Sandisk Ultra, I get copy speed upto 40MB/s. Will see how much I get with Sandisk Extreme card.

Btw; Please do tell me which card do you all use on your cameras?

I use a sandisk extreme pro 8GB card 90MBps write 95MBps read :) (didnt have budget for 16GB that time) Never feel slow at any moment ...and take upto 500 JPEG ..I dont shoot RAW nowdays anyways.

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Any idea where i can get a gorillapod? Amazon shows this but the gorillapod hybrid is crazy overpriced ($25 in US vs Rs.3500 here)

My old one is now almost dead.

I too wanted one but for DSLR is costly ...urs is m4/3 its light, go for cheaper gorrilapod
 

raja manuel

In the zone
I have a Sandisk Ultra Class 10 32 GB. Even with Magic Lantern boot from card I haven't faced any problems with it in about 4 years of use. It is perfectly fine for raw bursts and normal video. Raw video drops to 10-15 fps but I don't complain about that as the camera was not designed for raw video and most guys running Magic Lantern raw video use compact flash cards.
 

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
Same here, running my NEX6 on a sandisk ultra class 10 card 16GB. Managed to convince the guy i got the cam from to upgrade my card to this one, so its free

The nex6 gets 10 FPS in burst and once the cache is filled with 15 shots it slows down, but even a superfast card won't be able to maintain the speed.
 

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
I too wanted one but for DSLR is costly ...urs is m4/3 its light, go for cheaper gorrilapod

the smaller one is available but what I'm looking for is the gorillapod hybrid which is made for mirrorless cams. That is overpriced at Amazon at Rs. 3500
 

CRACING

Journeyman
I use a sandisk extreme pro 8GB card 90MBps write 95MBps read :) (didnt have budget for 16GB that time) Never feel slow at any moment ...and take upto 500 JPEG ..I dont shoot RAW nowdays anyways.

Professional camera + high speed card + JPEG = Super-fast performance. :grin_NF:

I have a Sandisk Ultra Class 10 32 GB. Even with Magic Lantern boot from card I haven't faced any problems with it in about 4 years of use. It is perfectly fine for raw bursts and normal video. Raw video drops to 10-15 fps but I don't complain about that as the camera was not designed for raw video and most guys running Magic Lantern raw video use compact flash cards.

Same here, running my NEX6 on a sandisk ultra class 10 card 16GB. Managed to convince the guy i got the cam from to upgrade my card to this one, so its free ��

The nex6 gets 10 FPS in burst and once the cache is filled with 15 shots it slows down, but even a superfast card won't be able to maintain the speed.

I beg to differ. Faster card does make difference in camera shooting performance. Otherwise benchmark report on Camera Memory Speed website doesn't make sense.

Please check SanDisk Ultra vs other performance cards on different camera bodies in that website. Single shots as well as continuous shooting.

For example on Nikon D7100: SanDisk Ultra has write speed of ~13 MB/s and can take around 30 RAW shots in 30 sec but SanDisk Extreme Pro has ~70 write speed and takes 65 RAW shots in 30 sec. So almost double shots in same time.

Of course buffer size also matters and I will test that in my camera once I get the new card. May be tomorrow.
 
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CRACING

Journeyman
At the time of checking prices of Sandisk SD cards, I have found SanDisk Extreme SDXC 64GB in Tata Cliq for Rs. 1283.

Price looks too good to be true and I have no experience with Tata Cliq so I didn't bought it. I don't like big memory cards instead its better to buy two or more cards of lesser memory each. But if anyone is interested then he can try. Make sure you choose COD option (If available otherwise don't buy) as a safer purchase.
 

CRACING

Journeyman
Hello Friends,

Here is my review on Sandisk Extreme SDHC 32GB (Class 10, UHS-I, U3) Card.

Seller name is fotocentreindia located in Ebay India since long (2004) and he sells plenty of camera accessories.

I bought the card from ebay because I get payback points earned from other purchases and those can be spent on ebay only. Plus I get discount coupons all the time. Placed the order on 29th July and the item was shipped on Monday.

Received the card yesterday afternoon from Fedex. Nicely packed and product intact. Date of mfg is Dec 2015 so not a fresh import but the blister card and SD card is good as new. Seller stated 5 years warranty in product listing description but blister card says lifetime limited warranty as well as in Sandisk India website. This is an advantage over 5 years warranty given by Sony.

OK now to test the cards I tried to follow Camera Memory Speed procedure (i.e How many RAW shots the D3200 can take in 30 seconds using each memory card). Although the results won't be same as published in their website because of settings difference but comparison between my two cards should be near accurate I believe.

Sandisk Ultra SDHC [Class 10 | UHS-I ] 8GB:

9* shots took 2 seconds then slowed down to 1.75 sec per shot for remaining 28 seconds. So the camera took 9 + 16 = 25 shots in 30 seconds time. After 30 seconds, camera took 26+ seconds to process all the 25 files (Approx. 1 sec per picture) but still the user is allowed to take more pictures at slower speed (i.e 1.75 sec per shot).

Sandisk Extreme SDHC [Class 10 | UHS-I | U3] 32GB:

9* shots took 2 seconds (Just like other card) then slowed down to 0.69 sec per shot for remaining 28 seconds. So the camera took 9 + 41 = 50 shots in 30 seconds time. After 30 seconds, camera took 36+ seconds to process all the 50 files (Approx. 0.72 sec per picture) but still the user is allowed to take more pictures at slower speed (i.e 0.69 sec per shot).

Conclusion:

Both the cards show no difference in full speed but after slowing down, Sandisk Extreme writes faster then Sandisk Ultra. I think D3200 has buffer capacity of 9* shots and the difference between SD cards is experienced after the buffer reaches capacity.

I was not able to test write speed of my camera because its difficult to get accurate results. Anyway, I'm satisfied with the new card performance so I will not do any further research, instead focus on photography.

*Auto Distortion Control = Enabled, Noise Reduction = Enabled. When these settings are disabled:

Noise Reduction = Disabled - Allows to take +1 shot at full speed and also reduces time taken per shot on slow speed.
Auto Distortion Control = Disabled - Allows to take +2 shots at full speed on Sandisk Ultra but on Sandisk Extreme +6 shots! Also reduces time taken per shot on slow speed


Benchmark report of both cards tested on PC using CrystalDiskMark:

*forum.digit.in/attachment.php?attachmentid=16421&stc=1&d=1470298499

Thanks...
Best Regards
 

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