Camera talk...

izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
Its amazing the sort of burst speeds and reduction in vibration that a mirrorless brings. The only drawback the focus speed is getting better by the day. Seems like the format is catching on.

Plus I'm surprised at how many pros have made the shift to a mirrorless.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
@amlan contrary to your opinion I see it other way round...initially there was huge hype of mirrorless cams ...3 years back...but now the hype is gone. specially after launch of Nikon D500 and canon 7DMK2 ....
In india only Sony is doing some sales but all others have almost gone out of the market...and I even dont see many in any malls ..fuji, olympus, panasonic they all seems to be too slow in sales
Sony 6000L is superb ....but no body will even listen if I suggest them.. they will buy Nikon canon DSLR just like they will buy a Mahindra TUV300 instead of a Baleno ...its show off factor most of the time.

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people give me choice like "Nikon and canon me kaun sa accha hai" "Should I buy nikon D5200 or canon 700D with dual kit"
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
sujoyp said:
I even dont see many in any malls ..fuji, olympus, panasonic they all seems to be too slow in sales
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Their presence is not that deep in India. So the reason you don't see them in malls and camera stores as much as Canikons. And entry level DSLRs have price advantage over the few available ILCs in India, so another reason more people buying DSLR than ILC. Every year DSLR sales numbers are dropping, MILC is holding it. Yeah, ILC is not getting more sales either comparing few years back. Until Canikons enter the market in full swing, we're not gonna see any surge in ILC users/sales.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Nikon almost got out of 1 series ILC and now they have advance P&S type with 1 inch sensor.
Canon also did not release new mirrorless ILC, just some advance P&S type with 1 inch.
 
izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
Makes sense also, a good P&S will be much better for a general user who does not want to invest in lenses and carry a ton of kit around.

Sujoy, i know what you mean. People ask me why i don't buy a proper DSLR. They don't even consider my cam a proper prosumer level cam since zoom is way less

Plus the deals like a kit lens + zoom or 50mm at about 25k are an amazing place to start. So it makes sense for a person new to DSLRs to go there. For the pros the 5DM3 and its amazing range of stuff is the clear choice.
 
CRACING

CRACING

Journeyman
izzikio_rage said:
Plus the deals like a kit lens + zoom or 50mm at about 25k are an amazing place to start. So it makes sense for a person new to DSLRs to go there.
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For example peoples like me. :grin_NF:

I'm not interested in mirrorless ILC's. First they cost more then DSLRs, Lenses are costly too and limited ranges available. Only thing I like about them is light body weight and easy to carry around. Still doesn't feel like owning a professional camera even though paying so much.

Some say DSLRs gonna end in next few years and mirrorless cameras gonna take over but I don't believe it, rather I think its other way around.

After launching Nikon D500 and Canon 7DMK2, I'm glad to know DSLR is back on track.
 
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raja manuel

In the zone
I don't think we should go by the Indian market. Most of the guys I see buying DSLRs do it for flaunt value, much like people buying Harley Davidsons. They think having a Canon or a Nikon entitles them to put a watermark on their mediocre photos and brag about being in manual mode without knowing what they are talking about. Canon and Nikon do have well established product lines, distribution channels, and an ecosystem of first and third party accessories but most people do not know or care about these so it makes no difference to them. Internationally, I see several big names switching to Fuji's very beautiful system and Panasonic is also starting to make waves. Leica have also embraced mirrorless.

I don't know what Nikon is doing in mirrorless, but Canon are supposed to launch their pro level full frame mirrorless this year and they have also said we're going to see many EOS M lenses. Their dual pixel on chip phase detect system has been incorporated into the 1DX II and is supposed to be only slightly slower than the regular PDAF system - and that's on the IDX II which means it should be more than good enough for everyone else. All the manufacturers seem to acknowledge that the DSLR era is coming to an end.

I think DSLRs are like manual transmission cars. They represent the peak of the previous generation's technology which has been honed over decades and is therefore quite evolved, while automatics represent the new generation that is taking rapid strides forward and will eventually relegate manual transmission to a museum.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
even if world pros are moving towards fuji , we have to use what is there in our market...I can not just get a fuji here coz price is too high, accesories price are too high and almost no service centers, but contrary to that in USA anyone can buy one.
 
Lucky_star

Lucky_star

Still Shining!
I had bought a Sony A6000 with an additional 50mm prime for 67k last year. All of my friends advised against it and said I was crazy investing in an unknown cam when I could get famous Nikon and Canons with at least 2 lenses for a lesser price. I was skeptical at first, but after a year of usage, I can gladly say that it was the best investment in a gadget I ever made. The IQ, ease of use, light weight has made me never wanna go back to any other bulky DSLRs. Whoever sees it at first mistakes it for a P&S until they see the pictures clicked :D.
Only if they could make the lenses cheaper.. I just wanted a 50mm prime. This with the stock one caters to most of my needs.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Sony a6000 is really good MILC ...is there any zoom lens available by sony for this cam..something which can reach 500mm?
 
izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
Lucky_star said:
I had bought a Sony A6000 with an additional 50mm prime for 67k last year. All of my friends advised against it and said I was crazy investing in an unknown cam when I could get famous Nikon and Canons with at least 2 lenses for a lesser price. I was skeptical at first, but after a year of usage, I can gladly say that it was the best investment in a gadget I ever made. The IQ, ease of use, light weight has made me never wanna go back to any other bulky DSLRs. Whoever sees it at first mistakes it for a P&S until they see the pictures clicked :D.
Only if they could make the lenses cheaper.. I just wanted a 50mm prime. This with the stock one caters to most of my needs.
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Wait till you figure out adapters and legacy lenses. I've gotten a ton of them for as cheap as 2500 per lens. The focus peaking and other features make it super easy to use, and they are amazing in terms of quality and images
 
izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
I have a Minolta rokkor 50mm f/1.4 from a seller in mumbai. Again an amazing lens at some 4k. Would be worth an explore, there are some amazing fun lenses in the legacy space
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
Anybody using Gorrilapod with there dslr/mirrorless ...just want to ask how is the stability if I want to use it anyplace while trekking
 
izzikio_rage

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
I use it very frequently, i use the small one with the mirror less, but for a DSLR you'll need the DSLR variant. Its quite stable and very flexible in how you can use it
 
CRACING

CRACING

Journeyman
sujoyp said:
Anybody using Gorrilapod with there dslr/mirrorless ...just want to ask how is the stability if I want to use it anyplace while trekking
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I got mini hand grip tripod from aliexpress few months ago. Product quality is good and holds my DSLR firmly. Camera can be tilted but cannot raise the height.

Check my review of that product here (Post #395)

Flexible tripods are also available in aliexpress but I doubt how well they hold heavy camera. That is why I went for fixed tripod.
 
sujoyp

sujoyp

Grand Master
yaah 2700 is good...but leave it...cancelled the plan....I just wanted a small tripod that could stand on mud with my dslr...as other small tripods have fixed length legs I thought this will be nice if I can bend its leg.

Thanks amlan for link..
this month end I am going to matheran and want to use dslr in rains...thinking of ways to protect it...maybe a simple plastic wrap will be enough...thats what market sell us anyways :D
 
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