Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

[pkkumarcool]

i too didnt like the game concept and trailer.Are they gonna change their genre?
i think it gonna be flop,i want the old call of duty series..

 

[topgear]

Enough Discussion about the upcoming game - give the devs some time and for the time being this thread will remain locked until some big news comes about this game.

 

[Sujeet]

So after lot Complaints and Negative Feedback of COD Fans and Veterans Treyarch has finally decided to give a revamp to the COD/IW engine.

According to the following news The Devs are currently working on complete reimplementation of Lightning System and the Engine is undergoing Heavy Modification to cater to the Demands of fans for Hi-fidelity and eye popping Graphics and Visuals.

While many have called for Activision to invest in a new graphics engine to spruce up Call of Duty's visuals, Treyarch's studio head Mark Lamia insisted that a new engine isn't needed to improve Black Ops 2's graphics over previous games in the series.

"People always ask me, 'Is this a new engine?' Lamia told One of Swords. "I liken it to people who live in an older house that has been remodeled. Just because you're remodeling the house and it will look new or it will have a new kitchen, you don't tear out the foundation, or break out some of the framing. You might even go as hardcore as replacing the plumbing, and we will do that sort of thing, as an analogy. It's a gross simplification, but it's one way to say that. There's a lot of good still in that foundation that you wouldn't get rid of, and we don't. We look to advance in the areas that support our game design.

"Engines, each time they get touched, they change. The creators alter them; they don't modify what they don't need to, and then they alter what they need to. You can't make a competitive product if you're not upgrading that engine along the way," Lamia explained.

He continued: "I think the whole thing about a new engine... sometimes that's a great buzzword. Well, I have a new graphics engine - is that a new engine? Where does it start and stop? Elements of the code, you can trace back for a very, very long time... but whole parts of the code are entirely new. Two areas we did focus on for this game were the graphics and the lighting - a pretty significant amount of work is going into that."

"The trick is, we're not willing to do that if we can't keep it running at 60 frames per second - but we did that this time," Lamia concluded. "So this is the Black Ops 2 engine."

Source

BTW according to some other sources The Reveal Trailer released by Activison few weeks back wasnt meant to showcast the Technical Advancement and Visual Prowess of what Treyarch is actually cooking ,but rather a tool to introduce the new Title in Series to excited fans and to start the Pre-orders.

Lets hope Treyarch Keeps their words.!

 

[gameranand]

Good move by Treyarch.

 

[topgear]

Great ! so after 7 years of waiting we will get a shiny new engine with CoD BO2 .

 

[gameranand]

^^ I think they are remodeling old engine. They are not creating a new engine.

 

[Sujeet]

Yup.
Modifying IW engine.it will be called BO2 engine from now.
Still something is better than nothing.

More importantly its a step in right direction by Treyarch of. trying to keep the engine up to date with the demands current gen games and gamers.

 

[gameranand]

Let them release a trailer then we'll see about that. I take developer's comments with a pinch of salt.

 

[Sujeet]

Let them release a trailer then we'll see about that. I take developer's comments with a pinch of salt.

Well that applies to every commercial Product IMO.
Still waiting for next GAMEPLAY trailer of BOII .

 

[cyborg47]

No offence to any fans but, the graphics still look washed out. Not that treyarch(only cod dev trying to add some variety to the dying series) cannot make any improvements. Realistically, thats just not possible, they'll probably do some optimizations to the engine and nothing significant.
I do trust Treyarch, but the way they talk about the engine improvements definitely sounds like PR crap. They don't have a Carmack do they?

Let them release a trailer then we'll see about that. I take developer's comments with a pinch of salt.

Didn't they release a trailer/teaser already? sucked though.

Think of fighting Robo's ,Drones,UAVs,Tank running on feet WTF with a horse cant imagine anything more Also with Sh#ty Gfx...... I really think ACTIVION is really hiding something from it

There are vehicles this time, and the multiplayer is futuristic only, no horses lol. But I wouldn't expect many drastic changes to the multi. Activision has never been the innovative type, why even bother changing the game that makes billions with just minor tweaks.

 

[topgear]

^^ I think they are remodeling old engine. They are not creating a new engine.

I thought this would be a completely new engine from the scratch.

Yup.
Modifying IW engine.it will be called BO2 engine from now.
Still something is better than nothing.

More importantly its a step in right direction by Treyarch of. trying to keep the engine up to date with the demands current gen games and gamers.

this will be like MW3 engine at the best then but IW engine was modified with every CoD game release to suit the game perfectly so apart from few minor graphical tweaks there's nothing new for us ( only predicting ) but if they can make it look gorgeous then there's nothing to complain about though.

Let them release a trailer then we'll see about that. I take developer's comments with a pinch of salt.

yep, better wait for some 'Proper' trailer.

 

[Sujeet]

I thought this would be a completely new engine from the scratch.



this will be like MW3 engine at the best then but IW engine was modified with every CoD game release to suit the game perfectly so apart from few minor graphical tweaks there's nothing new for us ( only predicting ) but if they can make it look gorgeous then there's nothing to complain about though.



yep, better wait for some 'Proper' trailer.

I dont think thats a good idea in any way.

Atleast for a well established series with Millions of fans.

Developing a new game engine from ground zero takes years to complete and evolve and there is no way in which newly built engine would manage to deliver a satisfying End User Product.

More importantly the IW Engine is Just fine.

Infinity Ward has shown what its capable of in MW1,MW2 and MW3.
I wont go into depth of what it is capable of.

The weakest point of IW Engine is its deficient Anti aliasing System.
AFAIK it allows max AA of Upto 4X.Correct me if i am wrong.

And the poor(read low level- low res) lightning system(this where UE3,Frostbite 2,Cryengine 3 Excels).

So tweaking the weak points of IW Engine to deliver an experience we all are familiar with is not that bad afterall.

 

[gameranand]

Then it would be same old story nothing new. I want developers to surprise me.

 

[Sujeet]

Then it would be same old story nothing new. I want developers to surprise me.

Gameplay may surprise(read multiple endings) you and so will the Story

Gameplay and Game experience may change but nothing will change in what we call as Game mechanics and IMO its shouldnt be changed either.
COD fans love it the way it is.

The series needs some minor fixing and tweaking only to go that extra mile.

 

[cyborg47]

Gameplay may surprise(read multiple endings) you and so will the Story

Gameplay and Game experience may change but nothing will change in what we call as Game mechanics and IMO its shouldnt be changed either.
COD fans love it the way it is.

The series needs some minor fixing and tweaking only to go that extra mile.

Yeah..a green, blue, and red endings!!

Then it would be same old story nothing new. I want developers to surprise me.

one does not simply be surprised by call of duty

 

[Sujeet]

Yeah..a green, blue, and red endings!!



one does not simply be surprised by call of duty

LOL.

 

[axes2t2]

Gameplay may surprise(read multiple endings) you and so will the Story

Gameplay and Game experience may change but nothing will change in what we call as Game mechanics and IMO its shouldnt be changed either.
COD fans love it the way it is.

The series needs some minor fixing and tweaking only to go that extra mile.

No they don't.

 

[cyborg47]

No they don't.

Majority of them, yes. Its become more of a lifestyle for a lot of players. Ask any casual(majority) cod player, all he ll say is that he bought the game so that he could play it with his friends. Heck they dont even spend time on online to discuss the game or anything. Insert the disk, get some kills and have fun thats all

Then again, if you aren't happy with the game, there are ton of alternatives out there :\

 

[Sujeet]

Majority of them, yes. Its become more of a lifestyle for a lot of players. Ask any casual(majority) cod player, all he ll say is that he bought the game so that he could play it with his friends. Heck they dont even spend time on online to discuss the game or anything. Insert the disk, get some kills and have fun thats all

Then again, if you aren't happy with the game, there are ton of alternatives out there :\

Yeah.

 

[Sujeet]

Black Ops II to feature DX11 GFX on PC version.