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Cilus

Cilus

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I don't think all the speculation about DirectX 11 is just hype. The set of features offered by it, looks very promising instead.
With the following features like

  1. Down-level hardware and operating system support
  2. Improved multithreaded device
  3. New hardware stages for tessellation
  4. Improved texture compression
  5. Shader Model 5.0
  6. Compute shader
  7. Additional features
DirectX 11 will sure be something different. Even if it does not offer that much of gain over Direct X 10, games will still be released in DX11 version. In the month of December, 5 DX11 titles are coming. So a DX11 card will always perform better than a equivalent DX10 card.
So better opt for a DX11 card at that transition time.
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
hi guys

my friend's building a new rig

AMD phenom 2 x2 550be
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO
2x2gb ddr3 ram(transcend)
500gb hdd(seagate or wd)
zebronics bizli cabby
corsair vx450 smps
AOC F 19 lcd monitor
apc 650va ups

For the gfx card he's gonna wait for the realease of fermi so that the current prices drop.But will the asus board support nvidia cards as i had heard that ati chipsets have conflicts with team green's products.

THROW SOME LIGHT TO THIS FACT!!!!!
 
tkin

tkin

Back to school!!
vickybat said:
hi guys

my friend's building a new rig

AMD phenom 2 x2 550be
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO
2x2gb ddr3 ram(transcend)
500gb hdd(seagate or wd)
zebronics bizli cabby
corsair vx450 smps
AOC F 19 lcd monitor
apc 650va ups

For the gfx card he's gonna wait for the realease of fermi so that the current prices drop.But will the asus board support nvidia cards as i had heard that ati chipsets have conflicts with team green's products.

THROW SOME LIGHT TO THIS FACT!!!!!
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All mobos(with PCIeX x16 slots), support both nVidia/AMD gpus, theres is no such conflicts, the asus mobo(with an AMD chipset) will support nVidia GPU without any issues.
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Cilus said:
I don't think all the speculation about DirectX 11 is just hype. The set of features offered by it, looks very promising instead.
With the following features like

  1. Down-level hardware and operating system support
  2. Improved multithreaded device
  3. New hardware stages for tessellation
  4. Improved texture compression
  5. Shader Model 5.0
  6. Compute shader
  7. Additional features
DirectX 11 will sure be something different. Even if it does not offer that much of gain over Direct X 10, games will still be released in DX11 version. In the month of December, 5 DX11 titles are coming. So a DX11 card will always perform better than a equivalent DX10 card.
So better opt for a DX11 card at that transition time.
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DX10 change log was bigger, and what did we get? 0 games with true DX10 only features.

That tessellation unit isn't new, ATI used it from 38xx cards, now with DX11 it becomes compulsory HW standard.
 
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vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
ok got it.

But can i SLI two nvidia cards in the future as the board has two pci xpress x16 slots?
It officially supports crossfire whereas the x58 and p55 intel boards support officialy both SLI and CROSSFIREX.

The board is ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO.

Finally can it unlock the defective cores in the 550be by enabling acc in the bios?
 
tkin

tkin

Back to school!!
vickybat said:
ok got it.

But can i SLI two nvidia cards in the future as the board has two pci xpress x16 slots?
It officially supports crossfire whereas the x58 and p55 intel boards support officialy both SLI and CROSSFIREX.

The board is ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO.

Finally can it unlock the defective cores in the 550be by enabling acc in the bios?
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No, AMD chipset based mobos don't support SLI. So no 2 nvidia cards can be used at once.

I'm not an AMD expert but I think the whole core unlock thing is a matter of luck, it may or may not work for you depending on the processor you buy. If the cores are really defective it will not work.
 
Krow

Krow

Crowman
^+1. Don't buy the processor for unlocking. That processor is EOL. Get it ASAP before it disappears. Anyway, if you want a cheap quad core, then look at the Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k.
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
ok guys

But can you suggest an amd quad core below 9k.The phenom 2 x4 910 looks good & how about the x3 720 be.Is it a good proccy?
 
layzee

layzee

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vickybat said:
ok guys

But can you suggest an amd quad core below 9k.The phenom 2 x4 910 looks good & how about the x3 720 be.Is it a good proccy?
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The Phenom II X3 720 is a tri-core processor. Stick with the Phenom II X4 910 and if you can slightly extend your budget get the X4 945.
 
Krow

Krow

Crowman
Get the Phenom II X4 945 @ 9.2k. The X3 720 is for 6.5k now and the 910 or 810 should be for less than 9k, not sure about exact price.
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
ok buddies

Finally does the asus m4a785td -v evo support crossfire as it has one x16 slot and another one is x4.Some reviewers say that crossfire is not possible in this board.

Is it true?
 
topgear

topgear

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Staff member
If it has one pci-e x16 and another x4 slot then it will not officially support CF but if it' has two pci-e x16 slot and one of which will run at x4 seed when CFed then it's possible that this mobo supports CF officially.

if you are talking about this mobo
*www.trustedreviews.com/motherboards/review/2009/08/06/Asus-M4A785TD-V-EVO/p1
then it supports CF officially but in x4 mode ie a single card will run at x16 speed but if you use 2 gfx cards they will run at x4 speed mode so it's not a sold mobo for dual gpu solution through CF.

BTW, you can install a another pci-e gfx card on pci-e x4 slot buy cutting the blocking end of the x4 slot and use it for CF as I've seen one guy doing this thing with his DFI mobo :p
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
@ topgear

hi buddy

Actually i didn't understand what you meant by cutting the blocking end of the x4 slot.
By the way if i install two radeon cards in the two x16 slots having 16 lanes and 4 lanes respectively will they work in crossfire in reduced speed i.e x4?
How much its gonna affect performance scaling?
In that review its written that crossfirex is not possible on this mobo.

What's crossfirex?
 
thunder.02dragon

thunder.02dragon

Journeyman
Why stickn to costly Asus MVO crap?
on 6350+tax..u cud get Biostar 790GX
DDR3
CROSSFIRE 16x+8x
HD3300Onboard etc
Only lacks Dx10.1 & SM 4.1 Support..
But 790GX has Dx10+SM4.0 Support..
Specially if CF is in mind Asus useless
 
topgear

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
vickybat said:
@ topgear

hi buddy

Actually i didn't understand what you meant by cutting the blocking end of the x4 slot.
By the way if i install two radeon cards in the two x16 slots having 16 lanes and 4 lanes respectively will they work in crossfire in reduced speed i.e x4?
How much its gonna affect performance scaling?
In that review its written that crossfirex is not possible on this mobo.

What's crossfirex?
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I said that that you can use a gfx card in pei-e x4 slot as it's shorter than pci-e x16 slot you have to cut the end side of of that slot. Someone has done this with his DFI mobo to add 3 gfx cards in CFx :p


By the way if i install two radeon cards in the two x16 slots having 16 lanes and 4 lanes respectively will they work in crossfire in reduced speed i.e x4?
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Correct! :p

BTW, the asus mobo you mentioned does not supports CFx instead it supports Hybrid CFx which is mixture of IGP and separate ATI gfx card.

You may wondering then what the other x16 slot doing - it's just for installing a expansion card other than a gfx card say a TV tuner or, sound or lan card
which requires reduced speed of X1 or x4 :p

If you want some good CF mobo then get 790GX and SB750 based mobos.

So if you want to save some o\money then get the mobo thunder has sugested but if you want something better then get MSI 790GX-G65 ( around Rs. 7.5K )

To know about CrossfireX :p
*game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex_about.aspx
 
K

kbk

Broken In
^+1 for MSI 790GX-G65 great board irrespective of whether you want crossfire or not, and is available for 7035/- at lynx-india.com and the difference with the Biosstar board is about 500-600 .

Also, something to note, with biosstar board you have to use a paddle card(comes bundled) if you are using only one gfx card. (dont know how much this matters)
 
Krow

Krow

Crowman
Check out this cool board from MSI called 785G EM65. 5.2k and great for the features.

*www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130233
*www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1928_1.html
*www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspec&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&cat3_no=&prod_no=1864
 
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