Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[ganeshravi]

post no 5913... please reply ppl...

 

[acewin]

hi, a few days before, i bought a seagate desk 1 TB external HDD which crashed yesterday after a transfer of 200GB... i had bought it from ebay and bought it on a condition of exchange if it crashed... but during the exchange i asked him to give a free agent pro and that guy told that the free agent pro model has been stopped and it has been revised in the name of extreme.... is this true..?? can anyone confirm this..??

not sure. But pro seems to be out of scene..............

 

[topgear]

Putting my question in here only instead of creating a new thread will wait for response and then only create a new thread if I do not get any.

System config can be checked Compaq SR1930IL
motherboard specs RC410-M (Asterope2)

The CPU fan has started making quiet alot of noise. I tried checking if cleaning or oiling can be done. Removed the dust, but oil cannot be put as all the covered(checked after removing the stickers) .

Heatsink seems to be fine. The fan is a coolermaster fan. Suggest me some good replacement, and whether should I go for complete CPU cooler replaced or just the fan.

If just the fan then something good. Budget is upto 1K, I see there are few good complete CPU cooler sets(heatsink and fan) are available.

@damngoodman999, intel onboard gfx does not come near amd's onboard gfx.
G33 has X3100 gfx, as topgear said. and 780G has HD3200, which is very good.

@damngoodman999, intel onboard gfx does not come near amd's onboard gfx.
G33 has X3100 gfx, as topgear said. and 780G has HD3200, which is very good.

Get a CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 @ Rs. 1700-2000.

 

[acewin]

almost double of what I am considering

what about just fan. to replace and keeping the heatsink

 

[izzikio_rage]

^ Separate graphics recommended.

Digit's card shootout shows that the 9300 is a pretty good directx 10 board ........and the price difference between that and the intel boards is round 4000 bucks ......is there a good graphics card (Directx 10) that I can get for this much

 

[topgear]

almost double of what I am considering

what about just fan. to replace and keeping the heatsink

It depends on what kind of cpu heat sink you have ?

Do you have stock intel HSF ?

And I don't know if Discrete cpu fan is available in local markets. I think they will be very hard to find.

BTW, Anything below that HSF is just crap except some models though I'm not able to remember those right now. But they are all all priced around Rs. 1500. So it's wise to get CM Hyper TX2 as it is available in most places.

 

[acewin]

I too do not know, except on the fan above heatsink it is written coolermaster on the sticker rest of what is written is

MGT9212UR-W25
12V - 0.54A
200009130 - GP.

I think its just the model name and all of the fan and not heatsink.
And a question, do we but anyything between the CPU and heatsink base for conductivity and all, I will try to take some pic of the heatsink.

my system is a compaq system with Pentium D proccy, so not sure if it is intel HSF.
and have also to check the size of the fan.

I saw the prices of these coolers (heatsink and fan) on lynx and other sites
OCZ Vanquisher CPU Cooler - 1225
some Thermalright XP-90 and thermalright Ultra-90 -775 in around 1600-1700

how can we detrmine the size of the fan

if it is general 92 mm, I see Panaflo Medium FBA09A12M1BX - 92mm in 700 bucks on itwares

 

[furious_gamer]

Digit's card shootout shows that the 9300 is a pretty good directx 10 board ........and the price difference between that and the intel boards is round 4000 bucks ......is there a good graphics card (Directx 10) that I can get for this much

For 4000 bucks you can get a
9500GT - 3.5k
HD4650 - 4.2k
HD3650 - 3.8k
HD4350 - 2.8k

 

[prateekchanda]

C2D Q6600 (Will Try 3GHz at stock cooling)* 9690
Palit HD 4850 8600
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L 6500
PSU VX450W 3800
4gig ram Kingston 800 5-5-5-15 2400
VS3251 4000
K/b Logitec mm 500
Cabinet- I ball Gamer without Smps (1x80mm (Front IN) 1x90mm(back OUT) 1x80mm(side IN) 1300
UPS-600VA Full sinewave (How long cant It run PC) 1600
HDD WD AAKS (Which is best one Caliver Blue) 500GB 2850
DVD LiteON 1200
Samsung 2253BW 22", 2ms 1000 CR(typ), DVI 11700

Future Upgrades!
Sun beam Core contact 120mm 2800


So people plz give ur inputs

 

[furious_gamer]

Go for it..
Q6600? I prefer Q8200 over Q6600 as former one is 45nm and higher fsb then latter... So less power consumption and runs cooler..
Rest is better...
I heard that newer batches of Q6600 cant OC beyond 3GHz... Is it so?

 

[comp@ddict]

^But when you have a budget of 5k and you want a dual core CPU, 740G or 690G is the best option. The cheapest 780G board I have seen so far is Palit 780G which is around 4k .

780G motherboards(good ones) start from 4k, and best one's are for 5k. Makes 740G and 760G useless.

For 4000 bucks you can get a
9500GT - 3.5k
HD4650 - 4.2k
HD3650 - 3.8k
HD4350 - 2.8k

Go for anyone between 9500GT or HD4650, not the other two.

 

[topgear]

C2D Q6600 (Will Try 3GHz at stock cooling)* 9690
Palit HD 4850 8600
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L 6500
PSU VX450W 3800
4gig ram Kingston 800 5-5-5-15 2400
VS3251 4000
K/b Logitec mm 500
Cabinet- I ball Gamer without Smps (1x80mm (Front IN) 1x90mm(back OUT) 1x80mm(side IN) 1300
UPS-600VA Full sinewave (How long cant It run PC) 1600
HDD WD AAKS (Which is best one Caliver Blue) 500GB 2850
DVD LiteON 1200
Samsung 2253BW 22", 2ms 1000 CR(typ), DVI 11700

Future Upgrades!
Sun beam Core contact 120mm 2800



So people plz give ur inputs

Get Phenom 2 920 Rs. 10.8 K
&
MSI K9A2 CF Rs. 6K
&
Palit HD 4850 512MB DDR3 is Rs. 8.1K
&
For cabby go for zebronics bijli Rs. 1.1K w/o PSU
&
For DVD RW get Samsung Rs. 1.1 too.

Don't know about that ups but you can get a apc 650VA one at Rs. 2.8K

 

[anshul]

please update the rates of the PC components.

 

[prateekchanda]

Get Phenom 2 920 Rs. 10.8 K
&
MSI K9A2 CF Rs. 6

Check this link

*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3492&p=19


Q6600 is roughly slightly batter than P2 920 and I'm slightly comfortable with Intel

Need some more reviews!

please update the rates of the PC components.

C2D Q6600 (Will Try 3GHz at stock cooling)* 9690
Palit HD 4850 8100
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L 6500
PSU VX450W 3800
4gig ram Kingston 800 5-5-5-15 2400
VS3251 4000
K/b Logitec mm 500
Cabinet- I ball Gamer without Smps (1x80mm (Front IN) 1x90mm(back OUT) 1x80mm(side IN) 1300
UPS-600VA Full sinewave (How long cant It run PC) 1600
HDD WD AAKS (Which is best one Caliver Blue) 500GB 2850
DVD LiteON 1200
Samsung 2253BW 22", 2ms 1000 CR(typ), DVI 11700

Future Upgrades!
Sun beam Core contact 120mm 2800


So people plz give ur inputs

Rest are same I guess

I live in New Delhi! If any one have better prices then Plz let me know and also the shop.

 

[acewin]

I too do not know, except on the fan above heatsink it is written coolermaster on the sticker rest of what is written is

MGT9212UR-W25
12V - 0.54A
200009130 - GP.

I think its just the model name and all of the fan and not heatsink.
And a question, do we but anyything between the CPU and heatsink base for conductivity and all, I will try to take some pic of the heatsink.

my system is a compaq system with Pentium D proccy, so not sure if it is intel HSF.
and have also to check the size of the fan.

I saw the prices of these coolers (heatsink and fan) on lynx and other sites
OCZ Vanquisher CPU Cooler - 1225
some Thermalright XP-90 and thermalright Ultra-90 -775 in around 1600-1700

how can we detrmine the size of the fan

if it is general 92 mm, I see Panaflo Medium FBA09A12M1BX - 92mm in 700 bucks on itwares

again, need help on this cooler thingy any response

@prateekchanda
if keeping intel as your option check Q8200

you really not seem to give any eye to power consumption and other stuffs the benefit of 45nm. Give a look here POWER cunsumption and in the related section of the anandtech article.

SysMark points are real important and Phenom II 920 soars over Q6600 and Q8200, in other tests also it gives better results.

not sure how you got into conclusion Q6600 is better by any slight margin also, is you just wanna play far cry.

beside that a little suggestion, you spending good amount so buy atleast coolermaster elite 334 or any such would cost you less than 2K and are seriously much better than iball.

UPS are for stopping any abrupt shutdown due to power failure. you will get max of 10-15 minutes which are good enough.

your rest choices are good.

question for others
I havent checked but are single stick 4GB RAMs got into market ??

 

[Samyajit]

I want to buy a tough laptop with loads of RAM~3-4GB for processor intensive applications. For applications which proc is the best AMD or Intel's? Budget:<=35000INR.
Guys i need your advice....hope New System includes Lappies too...otherwise I'll remove the post

 

[j1n M@tt]

In terms of IGP AMD 740G which based on HD2100 gives bettr performance than Intel G31 ie GMA 3100.

But i thought that AMD's 780G chipset is the better on board graphics which is almost now the best IGP

but intel G33 chipset has better IGP !! is it so !!

in terms of IGP from my past experience Intel comes nowhere near AMD....anyway I brought dat Asus P5KPL-CM with GMA3100 + Intel E5200 combo since i hav a GeForce 9600GT

 

[acewin]

good buy

 

[topgear]

I too do not know, except on the fan above heatsink it is written coolermaster on the sticker rest of what is written is

MGT9212UR-W25
12V - 0.54A
200009130 - GP.

I think its just the model name and all of the fan and not heatsink.
And a question, do we but anyything between the CPU and heatsink base for conductivity and all, I will try to take some pic of the heatsink.

my system is a compaq system with Pentium D proccy, so not sure if it is intel HSF.
and have also to check the size of the fan.

I saw the prices of these coolers (heatsink and fan) on lynx and other sites
OCZ Vanquisher CPU Cooler - 1225
some Thermalright XP-90 and thermalright Ultra-90 -775 in around 1600-1700

how can we detrmine the size of the fan

if it is general 92 mm, I see Panaflo Medium FBA09A12M1BX - 92mm in 700 bucks on itwares

1st of all does your HSF looks like this :
*www.ddp.ru/upload/contents/376/XI5_9IDSA_X3_big.jpg

& the fan this :

*us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/alan-fm_2043_18211732


Your rig has a custom cooling solution which uses coolermaster heatsink & Magic fan.

It's a fan from Magic & it's dimension is 95mmx25mm but only website said that it's 92mm so I'm not sure if you can attach the panaflo 92mm fan.

the panaflo fan you're talking about looks like this :

*www.censuspc.com/tmzws_image2.php?imageid=6671

If you want to stay away from all these fan size compatibility issue then get a separate HSF solution.

And the OCZ vanquisher says that it will not fit with all intel mobo :
*www.ocztechnology.com/products/cooling_products/ocz_vanquisher_cpu_cooler

Thermalright XP 90 & ultra 90 does not comes with fan.

So it's better to get CM Hyper TX2 as it's comatible both with amd & intel & comes with fan.

Or you can get Core-Contact Freezer 92mm CPU Cooler which is Rs. 1850 or so.

 

[acewin]

thanks for your time bro, was little pain in the ass, but your explanation is quiet good

the fan is exactly the same with 4 pin for power and the heatsink (not the top part is the same)

Core Contact Frezeer or TX2 do their fan have 4 pin power, so that I can tie it up to the mobo, though for this question I will also try looking up but if anyone knows, and can response it would be good.