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Skud

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If you are not much into gaming, then it will. Cause most of the games nowadays were more GPU dependent and so will need a GPU to handle that at atleast lowest settings. So better back off from GF9300.
Better get a Mobo like ASUS P5K PL CM @ 2.5k and a GPU like 8600GT(3k)/9500GT(3.5k,Zotac one) totalled around 6k, still 1k lower than MSI P7NGM Mobo,with 9300 Chipset. And can able to play some new games at low-mid settings..But still, the choice is yours.If i were you, i'd sure go for second option, by just ignore the 9300 one.


no gfx card at this moment. i will add one later. but what about amd config?
 

topgear

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AMD has no better config at this time in this price range. You shouild stick with what
rajkumar has suggested.

But if you can upgrade to phenom 2 later then you should go for AMD.
In that case buy A gigabyte 780G or obo which is Rs. 5000 &
Get a amd dual core 5000+ which is Rs. 2800.
 

IronManForever

IronMan; Ready to Roll...
rajkumar_pb said:
@ironmanforever
Dual Core E2200 - 3.4k
ASUS P5K PL CM - 2.5k
2GB DDR2 - 0.9k
Zebby Cabinet - 1k
Zebby 450W SATA II PSU - 0.7k

Will be enuff for the purpose you mentioned?
It will be enough of course, anything will be enough. But it is overpowered for my purpose. Low power consumption is my prime requirement, I doubt I need a pentium dual core. Dont we have cheap Celeron proccies?

I would prefer a smaller motherboard which will also lessen power consumption.

We had proccy+mobo attached combos from intel available some time ago. Where are thery now?

What about Atom?
 

janitha

Wise Old Owl
It will be enough of course, anything will be enough. But it is overpowered for my purpose. Low power consumption is my prime requirement, I doubt I need a pentium dual core. Dont we have cheap Celeron proccies?

I would prefer a smaller motherboard which will also lessen power consumption.

We had proccy+mobo attached combos from intel available some time ago. Where are thery now?

What about Atom?

Intel Mobo with integrated Atom for about 3.5 to 4K IIRC.
Edit:-
Rs.3.7K @ deltapage.com
 

Skud

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AMD has no better config at this time in this price range. You shouild stick with what
rajkumar has suggested.

But if you can upgrade to phenom 2 later then you should go for AMD.
In that case buy A gigabyte 780G or obo which is Rs. 5000 &
Get a amd dual core 5000+ which is Rs. 2800.



How about Phenom 9550 & 790GX combo. I think it will cost around rs 12000 - 13000, costing almost same as what rajkumar has suggested as cpu+mobo?
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
Skud said:
How about Phenom 9550 & 790GX combo. I think it will cost around rs 12000 - 13000, costing almost same as what rajkumar has suggested as cpu+mobo?
Better stick with Intel rather than AMD as the prices seems equals and Intel kicks AMD at almost all games..
I prefer INTEL... :D

E7300 + ASUS P5K PL CM + 9500GT = 11k...
Better than AMD right?
 

Skud

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Better stick with Intel rather than AMD as the prices seems equals and Intel kicks AMD at almost all games..
I prefer INTEL... :D

E7300 + ASUS P5K PL CM + 9500GT = 11k...
Better than AMD right?

I can go upto 35000. that's not a prob. further i will a gfx card later, may be hd4850. do you think it will last 2 years as i will buy another more powerful pc 2 years later, so right now i don't need the greatest hardware.

what's about amd config?

no gfx card plz... i will add one later. just give me a config that can last a couple of years alongwith a hd4850.
 

prateekchanda

Boy Genius
C2D Q6600 (Will Try 3GHz at stock cooling)*....................9690
Palit HD 4850.........................................................8500
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L...............................................4800
Samsung 2253 22", 2ms 1000 CR(typ), DVI.......................11700
PSU VX450W...........................................................3800
4gig ram Kingston 800 5-5-5-15......................................2400
Altec Lancing 5.1 VS3251...............................................4000
K/b Logitec mm........................................................500
Cabinet- I ball Gamer without Smps
(1x80mm (Front IN) 1x90mm(back OUT) 1x80mm(side IN)..1300
UPS-600VA Full sinewave (How long cant It run PC)...........1600
HDD WD AAKS (Which is best one Caliver Black?) 500GB.......2850
DVD LiteON ..............................................................1200

Total......................................................................52340

*How Will I make sure it’s a G0 stepping by looking at the packaging before buying!
 

tkin

Back to school!!
C2D Q6600 (Will Try 3GHz at stock cooling)*....................9690
Palit HD 4850.........................................................8500
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L...............................................4800
Samsung 2253 22", 2ms 1000 CR(typ), DVI.......................11700
PSU VX450W...........................................................3800
4gig ram Kingston 800 5-5-5-15......................................2400
Altec Lancing 5.1 VS3251...............................................4000
K/b Logitec mm........................................................500
Cabinet- I ball Gamer without Smps
(1x80mm (Front IN) 1x90mm(back OUT) 1x80mm(side IN)..1300
UPS-600VA Full sinewave (How long cant It run PC)...........1600
HDD WD AAKS (Which is best one Caliver Black?) 500GB.......2850
DVD LiteON ..............................................................1200

Total......................................................................52340

*How Will I make sure it’s a G0 stepping by looking at the packaging before buying!
About the HDD questen, AAKS means Cavier Blue(good), AALS means Cavier Black(actually its Cavier Blue with 32MB Cache, hard to find in India), AACS is Cavier Green(good for storage, bad as a boot main drive).

Recommended is AAKS(Cavier Blue, AALS is a bit unstable).

BTW-Try to purchase APC UPS(650va @ 2.8k, its the best and most relieable)
 

thinknano

Broken In
Guys Guys....I need a very fast reply as I've to mail this config to my vendor by tonight...


My Budget is 20k and I'll assemble a new CPU(only)

So
Proccy=?
MOBO=??
RAM=1*2 gb 800Mhz
HDD=160GB which brand?
Case with psu/case and psu=????
DVD writer=LG


please let me know about the products....

As it's going to be office work only so I prefer not going for a GPU....what do you think?So MOBO is going to be the best in the budget...

and may be someday the photoshop cs2 would be running in these cpu so what do you think???


Please reply fast!!!!
 

prateekchanda

Boy Genius
@Skud
Get a Q8200 and MSI P7NGM Digital...


MSI P7NGM Digital is an nForce 730i Chipset so is it better than p45 which is available at better prices than nForce


Q8200 did't got nice review

Actually
Q6600 - 2.4GHz, 8 MB Catch, 1066 Fsb ( Can easily do 3.0 Ghz n 1333Fsb), 65nm
Q8200 - 2.33Ghz 4 MB catch, 1333 FSB but at 45 nm so it should run cool

So when 35nm come at the end of this year will all 45nm procees will start behaving badly? no I guess but a new thing will be there which is better atleast in sizze and temps!

So my big Q will Q8200 beat Q6600 Googled and found This More trouble seems to be neck and neck at gaming
since I'll be doing lots of virtulisation also its nice to see which one fares better at that

Ok googled and found this now in this site it appear Q6600 to be better than Q8200 in all aspect except for Power!

Why can't the findings be more consistent! :mad:

About the HDD questen, AAKS means Cavier Blue(good), AALS means Cavier Black(actually its Cavier Blue with 32MB Cache, hard to find in India), AACS is Cavier Green(good for storage, bad as a boot main drive).

Recommended is AAKS(Cavier Blue, AALS is a bit unstable).

BTW-Try to purchase APC UPS(650va @ 2.8k, its the best and most relieable)


How long will PC UPS(650va be able to run my PC? I mean can it do 30 min considering power scenario in gurgaon,
Anyone have an Idea about Dual Battery UPS They used to be there few years back


So AAKS(Cavier Blue) is better than Seagate at same price point.
what if u get new stable firmware from seagate will WD be still better?

Lots of Q's :D
I'm like that only
 
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ishjain

Right off the assembly line
I am planning to buy a new desktop. My Usage is as follows:
(a) my computer may remain switched on for more than 24 hours at a stretch.
(b) ordinary games like: Counter-strike, GTA, etc/
(c) Watching and Storing Movies, Movies and Movies
(d) Storing loads of songs

I have selected the following configuration. Please suggest whether each of them is compatible with the other or not. And if you think i should not spend on something or I should spend more on something please guide me.

(1)CPU - Intel Quad Core Q9300 2.5 GHz (Rs. 11,000)

(2) Motherboard - Asus P5Q Pro / MSI P45 Zilent / MSI P45-8D (which one???) (Rs.9000/9,500/8,700)

(3) Ram - Corsair DDR2 2gbx2 (800) (Rs. 2150x2)

(4) Hard Disk - 500 Gb Seagate x1 + 320Gb Seagatex1 (Rs.3100+2150)

(5) Monitor - Samsung / ViewSonic = 22" (Which model no idea ??) (Rs.10,000 apprx.)

(6) Graphic Card- 8600GT xfs - 512MB (Rs.4450)

(7) (a)Thermaltake M9 Series VI1000BWS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3750)
or (b) Thermaltake Strike MX Series VI6001BNS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3,200)
or (c) Cooler Master Elite 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.1800)
or (d) Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP RC-690 Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.4000)

+ Zebronics ZEB 500W Platinum Power Supply (Rs. 2600)
+ Cooler Master RS500-PCARA3 eXtreme Power Plus 500W Power supply. (Rs. 1900) (which one...?)



My budget is Rs.45K apprx.
 

topgear

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@ Skud - you have budget of around Rs. 16-17K for the mobo+cpu.

So get Phenom II 920 Rs. 13000 couple with Biostar TA790GXB A2+ Rs. 4200.
It will give performance simillar to Q9300

Other components :

4gb ram Rs. 2400 ( 2x 2Gb TS 800Mhz )
500gb hdd (by WD) Rs. 2800
1 dvd writer Rs. 1100
cm 460W Rs. 2500
cabinet zeb bijli Rs. 1100
kb+laser mouse 700 logitec
19" samsung Rs. 7200
Altec Lansing BXR 2.1 Rs. 1100

@ ishjain
Get Asus P5Q Pro
Get 2x 500GB HDD
Get 9500GT instead os 8600GT
Get CM 500W Psu
 
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sam_sc4

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For Rs.30,000 to Rs.35000 what components can i gt?

Uses: Basic home use, watching movies, listening to music, no gaming !!!
Note: This machine is not going 2 have any major upgrade 4r next 3-5yrs except adding ram, hdd.

I already choose these components. plz judge n comment if i can make any improvement:

Phenom X4 9550 / E7300 (if X4 nt available)
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H / Any suitable 8200 mobo(4r intel).
2*1gb ddr2 800mhz.
WD 500Gb sata II (How is Segate with 16mb buffer differ?)
Samsung DVD writer (Any specific model no, plz)
Dell 17'' (widescreen if i can find)
Altec Lansing BXR 1121 / Creative SBS 370
Numeric 700VA Ups.

I have not choose any cabby & psu. Cab wil most probably be of VIP, but what psu will i need? I not want spending a lot on PSU.
 

topgear

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Guys Guys....I need a very fast reply as I've to mail this config to my vendor by tonight...


My Budget is 20k and I'll assemble a new CPU(only)

So
Proccy=?
MOBO=??
RAM=1*2 gb 800Mhz
HDD=160GB which brand?
Case with psu/case and psu=????
DVD writer=LG


please let me know about the products....

As it's going to be office work only so I prefer not going for a GPU....what do you think?So MOBO is going to be the best in the budget...

and may be someday the photoshop cs2 would be running in these cpu so what do you think???


Please reply fast!!!!

Don't you need a monitor ??

Ok, Now the config :

Proccy= intel Q8200 Rs. 8800
MOBO= Asus P5KPL-CM Rs. 2300
RAM=2x 1GB 800Mhz TS Rs. 1200
HDD=320GB Rs. 2200 seagate
Case with psu/case and psu= Zebronics Bijli with 400W PSU Rs. 1100 W/O PSU
DVD writer=Samsung Rs. 1100
PSU CM 460W Extreme Power Plus Rs. 2500

Total Rs. 19200

For Rs.30,000 to Rs.35000 what components can i gt?

Uses: Basic home use, watching movies, listening to music, no gaming !!!
Note: This machine is not going 2 have any major upgrade 4r next 3-5yrs except adding ram, hdd.

I already choose these components. plz judge n comment if i can make any improvement:

Phenom X4 9550 / E7300 (if X4 nt available)
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H / Any suitable 8200 mobo(4r intel).
2*1gb ddr2 800mhz.
WD 500Gb sata II (How is Segate with 16mb buffer differ?)
Samsung DVD writer (Any specific model no, plz)
Dell 17'' (widescreen if i can find)
Altec Lansing BXR 1121 / Creative SBS 370
Numeric 700VA Ups.

I have not choose any cabby & psu. Cab wil most probably be of VIP, but what psu will i need? I not want spending a lot on PSU.

See what I've suggested SKUD @ here :
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1050002&postcount=5874
 
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Skud

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@ Skud - you have budget of around Rs. 16-17K for the mobo+cpu.

So get Phenom II 920 Rs. 13000 couple with Biostar TA790GXB A2+ Rs. 4200.
It will give performance simillar to Q9300

Other components :

4gb ram Rs. 2400 ( 2x 2Gb TS 800Mhz )
500gb hdd (by WD) Rs. 2800
1 dvd writer Rs. 1100
cm 460W Rs. 2500
cabinet zeb bijli Rs. 1100
kb+laser mouse 700 logitec
19" samsung Rs. 7200
Altec Lansing BXR 2.1 Rs. 1100


that's pretty decent although the cpu is eating most of my budget. will the ram be speedy enough (cl4/cl5/cl6???) to keep up with the the cpu? and is this the current price of phenom II after the price cut by amd?
 
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sam_sc4

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Top gear, the config u presented is excellent. But the only downside, it wil cost Rs. 36000- 38000.

But what about a configuration for Rs. 30000?

Also Phenom 2 & 790GX not available in every city at present. And specially not in north-east india.

So please giv a config easily available.
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
It will be enough of course, anything will be enough. But it is overpowered for my purpose. Low power consumption is my prime requirement, I doubt I need a pentium dual core. Dont we have cheap Celeron proccies?

I would prefer a smaller motherboard which will also lessen power consumption.

We had proccy+mobo attached combos from intel available some time ago. Where are thery now?

What about Atom?
Yup, you can get Atom processor, but budget is not a constraint for u, then why dont u avoid a Dual Core. And why u wish to buy a Atom, a slow proccy..
Just my 2 cents

Intel Mobo with integrated Atom for about 3.5 to 4K IIRC.
Edit:-
Rs.3.7K @ deltapage.com
Thats Intel 945GCLF and its avail for 3.6k..
 
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