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spidy333

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the giga board is 6.8k and MSI one is 6k and the giga one is much better.. also it isnt affecting the budget that much.. the only way I can go for Q9300 is by getting a motherboard at 4-5k..
 

acewin

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make a little changes hear and there or spend 1-2K extra and you will manage somehow.
what are the rest of components did you confirm on or have already bought till now

sata external casing comes in 600-700. This would be 3.5 inch case for desktop HDD
 
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damngoodman999

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I contacted one dealer and he quotes the prices roughly.. Phenom II 920 - 13.9k and Phenom II 940 - 15k-16k although he didn't say anything about their availability..


In my area , phenom 2 920 quoted 12K inc VAT 13.5K for 940 inc VAT

with out OCing 940 beats the Q9550 , OCing to 3.8GHZ it beats Corei7 920
Thats why its so much impressive

AMD boards -- go for asus board comes with all specs around 4

Did u saw GURU3D website on the review of Phenom 2 920 & 940
 

spidy333

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In my area , phenom 2 920 quoted 12K inc VAT 13.5K for 940 inc VAT

with out OCing 940 beats the Q9550 , OCing to 3.8GHZ it beats Corei7 920
Thats why its so much impressive

AMD boards -- go for asus board comes with all specs around 4

Did u saw GURU3D website on the review of Phenom 2 920 & 940

Yes I have read the reviews in some 5 sites like tomshardware, guru3d, anandtech.. they sounded very happy with its performance and recommended it also... But here the prices are problem.. Can you suggest the board for AMD processor..

Also does OSX86 runs on AMD processors.. with Intel it easily installs and runs..

If I change the combination to this.. GA-EP35-S3G + C2Q9300.. will this affect performance as it is a p35 chipset board..

EDIT: Asus M3A78-CM (780V/SB700) and Asus M3A78-CM (780G/SB700) are in my budget considering the Phenom II price here.. OSX86 isnt much of a concern as my laptop ca run it flawlessly with everything working..
 
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spidy333

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^The Jetway one seems to be a less popular board and I'm not able to find any reviews for that.. How about this mobo.. Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H..(I am somehow very impressed with Gigabyte boards.. probably the neat clean layout of their site and reviews).

I am not yet finalized on Phenom II.. lets see how it goes.. If not phenom II then surely Q6600 as it seems to be a nice one except that it is old technology...
 

damngoodman999

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Jetway is nice board !!!

though u can go for ASUS-M3A78-em board which cost around 4K . will be good on ur budget

Never choose P35 chipset !!!

phenom 2 940 is wonderfull & gr8 in games .. only10% less performance in all game considering corei7

Dont worry dude corei7 DDR3 so not comparable

When considering DDR2 quads and Duos , seriously AMD wins the DDR2 proccy on phenom 2 920 & 940 ... go ahead

Phenom 2 940 seriously beats Q9450 & 9550 , but in some cases almost equal to Q9550
 

spidy333

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I am not worried about core i7 nor I am bothered about it... Phenom II 940 seems to be doing a great job with its unlocked mutliplier..

But I've seen some OC benches for 920.. the core voltage is at around 1.56v which is sufficiently high.. I am not sure whether this mobos can handle that or not.. whereas Q6600 is proven OC'er..

As I'm on a tight budget.. I might not get a CPU cooler.. so I'm on stock.. I am expecting to OC the Q6600 to 2.6-2.8Ghz on stock as I am getting a pretty good motherboard.. Also the AMD cpus overclock well with 790GX/FX chipsets which wont fit in my budget.. So which is best.. these are too many variables to manage..
 

NVIDIAGeek

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In my area , phenom 2 920 quoted 12K inc VAT 13.5K for 940 inc VAT

with out OCing 940 beats the Q9550 , OCing to 3.8GHZ it beats Corei7 920
Thats why its so much impressive

AMD boards -- go for asus board comes with all specs around 4

Did u saw GURU3D website on the review of Phenom 2 920 & 940

yeah but Core i7 920 gonna beat 940 [non oc'ed] If we O.C Core i7 920, then.............
 

desiibond

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^^ Core i7 is lot lot faster than any Phenom processor that is available in the market. Even with overclocking, Phenom will not be able to threaten core i7.

Let's assemble core i7 rig:

1) processor: i7 920 for 13k-14k
2) mobo: Gigabyte X58 board: 14k-15k
3) DDR3 1333MHz ram (3 1gig sticks as it is triple channel): 9k total

Even without the GPU, this rig costs 36k atleast.

Let's see Phenom rig:

1) Phenom 940: Assume the price is 15k
2) ASUS or gigabyte 780G based motherboard: 5k-6k
3) 4Gb DDR2 800MHz RAM: 3k total

for 23k you get a system that can play games.
Add HD4850 for another 9.5k and you still save 3k over core i7 rig and you still have to buy a graphics card for core i7

I feel that either go for E8600 or Phenom II 940 or core i7 if you want to play games.
 

spidy333

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^I think if anyone is getting Phenom II.. they will be better with 790GX/FX board instead of 780G as they will support much better overclocking than these..
 

damngoodman999

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yeah but Core i7 920 gonna beat 940 [non oc'ed] If we O.C Core i7 920, then.............


corei7 is ddr3 ,, so not in the list !!

AMD is now finally satisfied Gamers need !!!


One thing i have severe Doubt which is , how E8400/8500/8600 is still giving the performance equal to Quad cores as it is Dual core one ???

Any one please clear me this one ... how wonder these dual cores are still match up with the Quad cores even the Quad core Clocks are more than 3Ghz ???
 
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desiibond

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^^ It's not that dual cores are better than quad cores.

Game developers have not yet utilized the four core architecture. Once they concentrate on quad core and many-core processor, you will see Quad core easily beating dual core processors.
 

spidy333

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Also you never cant compare clock to clock speed for AMD with Intel.. E8400 is at 3.0Ghz whereas Q9650 is 3.0Ghz which is clearly above the dual one in almost all benchmarks.. whereas Phenom II 940 at 3.0Ghz is roughly equaling Q9300 or Q9400 at 2.5-2.6Ghz..
 

damngoodman999

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But dude ,, dont go for AMD phenom 2 940 i think some reviews are not perfect better u choose Intel rig , cause its really worth on second hand sales

Check completely if u r going for AMD phenom 940 , cause older phenom discovered the TLB issue after 2 months on release so check completely
 

spidy333

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^Dont worry.. I've made my decision and it is Q6600... Even its a 2 year old technology Phenom II 920 is beating it by a little fraction and in some benchies Q6600 is ahead of it also.. So according to me even its a new technology its not new when it cant beat old..

As for future compatibility both motherboards will be worthless if I plan to make an upgrade.. Also did I talk about Vcore values needed for Phenom II 920 to overclock whereas Q6600 is a proven OC'er and draws less power..

I think Phenom II 940 is the way to go if any one is starting a build for quads but unfortunately my budget doesn't allow it.. So I'm better off with Intel.. I think I will get my system tomorrow or day-after-tomorrow.. :D
 

TheG33k

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Can anyone give me the indian prices for 4850 1GB GDDR3 and 4850X2 2 GB GDDR3.
I've checked the prices for 4850x2 1GB GDDR3(300$ newegg.com/24-27k on techshop.in and lynx-india.com) Also this does not make sense as 4870 X2 is available for 33k on techshop.in.
 
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