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blackbird

Journeyman
C2D E7200 - 5475
Ram - 2 GB - 2000 (which one is better DDR2 OR DDR3)
Cabinet - Iball - 1800 (iball International designer Gamer Computer Case With 400W PSU)
Rs - 9275
Very confused with motherboard. (need a good mobo Upgradability is prior concern)

(Please do not suggest Intel Mobos they suk really bad)

My range for mother is
2k to 6k (do consider graphic onboard or gfx card need just to work not serious abt it IGP will work to..)


Will Add GFX card afterward no budget Now so do suggest that too...


So the total would be 15k
Or should i look for AMD ?


I use my machine 24/7 must be power efficient, I download, upload, Surf HEAVILY and i mean it heavily. Sometimes Convert Movies to other format. I love collecting Movies and stuff. Machine Should be Upgradeable to GOOD GRAPHIC CARD.
 
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keith_j_snyder2

Rising ApocalypsE
C2D E7200 - 5475
Ram - 2 GB - 2000 (which one is better DDR2 OR DDR3)
Cabinet - Iball - 1800 (iball International designer Gamer Computer Case With 400W PSU)
Rs - 9275
Very confused with motherboard. (need a good mobo Upgradability is prior concern)

(Please do not suggest Intel Mobos they suk really bad)

My range for mother is
2k to 6k (do consider graphic onboard or gfx card need just to work not serious abt it IGP will work to..)


Will Add GFX card afterward no budget Now so do suggest that too...


So the total would be 15k
Or should i look for AMD ?


I use my machine 24/7 must be power efficient, I download, upload, Surf HEAVILY and i mean it heavily. Sometimes Convert Movies to other format. I love collecting Movies and stuff. Machine Should be Upgradeable to GOOD GRAPHIC CARD.

Well as for now DDR2 is cheaper but DDR3 is better if u can afford it & there isn't much difference between their performance.

E7200 is fine as rest of the stuff. MSI P45 Neo-F is best suited for ur budget but it doesn't have IGP so u have to look for cheaper graphics card as for now & later upgrade it.
new nVidia 7200GS comes for 1200/- but u can look for used cards for display till u get ur gaming freak.

As for power efficiency AMD processors still leads the way when paired with AMD 7-series/nVidia 8200-series chipset but won't give u enough space for overclocking while INTEL counterpart excels in overclocking.

AMD X38450+AMD780G/nVidia 8200 chipset gives good value & some good power saving options.

So pick whatever suits u.

:eek:


but then y does Phenom X3 8450 cost less than Athlon 64 X2 6000+ ? :confused:

No its not!
X3 8450 is for 4900/- & X2 6000+ is for 4450/-
 
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earlyman21

the innocent gamer
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Out of this, Phenom X3 8450 .......but IMO, AMD sux this days. Stick with Intel.


y plz let me know was thinking of an amd setup :shock:

As for power efficiency AMD processors still leads the way when paired with AMD 7-series/nVidia 8200-series chipset but won't give u enough space for overclocking while INTEL counterpart excels in overclocking.

AMD X38450+AMD780G/nVidia 8200 chipset gives good value & some good power saving options.

So pick whatever suits u.




No its not!
X3 8450 is for 4900/- & X2 6000+ is for 4450/-

Really where or which site ? :p

As I ll be playing games & surfing the net i need 2 know :(
 
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furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
Very confused with motherboard. (need a good mobo Upgradability is prior concern)

(Please do not suggest Intel Mobos they suk really bad)
My range for mother is
2k to 6k (do consider graphic onboard or gfx card need just to work not serious abt it IGP will work to..)
Will Add GFX card afterward no budget Now so do suggest that too...

Get ASUS P5Q VM - 6k(Availability is an issue)
or
ABIT I-N73HD - 4k(Onboard IGP)
ASUS P5K VM - 5k

All these Moboss have good IGP...
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^ or get something like this

XFX 630i motherboard: 3k
MSI 8600GT: 2.8k-3k

I heard that Abit is going out of businnes. not a good choice to go for it.
 

TechHunter

The Hunt is On
Hi All,
I am planning to buy a new desktop. Primarily using it for web application development, gaming and some entertainment.
Please suggest me a good configuration. I am looking at a budget of around 35K(max 40K).
I am actually confused with whether to go with a Q6600 processor or with C2D based configuration.

Thanks,
TechHunter.
 
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Psychosocial

Violent serenity.
Hi All,
I am planning to buy a new desktop. Primarily using it for web application development, gaming and some entertainment.
Please suggest me a good configuration. I am looking at a budget of around 35K(max 40K).
I am actually confused with whether to go with a Q6600 processor or with C2D based configuration.

Thanks,
TechHunter.

For gaming , C2D is better.........

Intel C2D E7200
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
WD Caviar 640GB
CM EP 600W PSU
CM Elite 330 cabinet
LG H55n optical drive
Altec Lansing BXR1121
Logitech Gaming G1 Desktop kbd+mouse
Dell 198WFP 19" LCD
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
KPower Mania said:
For gaming , C2D is better.........

Intel C2D E7200
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
WD Caviar 640GB
CM EP 600W PSU
CM Elite 330 cabinet
LG H55n optical drive
Altec Lansing BXR1121
Logitech Gaming G1 Desktop kbd+mouse
Dell 198WFP 19" LCD

^^ Just make this a standard config for the budget of 35-40k... This will reduce our time posting the same config for multiple users....
 

juggler

In the zone
what is the approximate cost of the above mentioned config and hows performance of
MSI P45 Neo-F. I am planning to buy a similar config just not sure about the motherboard
 

TechHunter

The Hunt is On
For gaming , C2D is better.........

Intel C2D E7200
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
WD Caviar 640GB
CM EP 600W PSU
CM Elite 330 cabinet
LG H55n optical drive
Altec Lansing BXR1121
Logitech Gaming G1 Desktop kbd+mouse
Dell 198WFP 19" LCD

Thanks,
I was bit confused over C2D and Q6600 as some friends suggested that quad will be better option over C2D.

Just one more thing, regarding the gfx card, how different will Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR2 be from the HD4850 512MB GDDR3?
 

Psychosocial

Violent serenity.
what is the approximate cost of the above mentioned config and hows performance of
MSI P45 Neo-F. I am planning to buy a similar config just not sure about the motherboard


MSI P45 Neo-F only gets a lot of praise from me. Its THE best mobo under 7k. Just blows the other mobos at that price. It is a worthy successor to the MSI P35 Neo-F, which is still a good mobo in its own rights.........anyways, if its a buying decision, go for the MSI P45 Neo-F eyes closed :).
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
TechHunter said:
Thanks,
I was bit confused over C2D and Q6600 as some friends suggested that quad will be better option over C2D.
C2D is hell lot better than Q6600 in gaming despite of it four cores.... So pick atleast a E7200..
TechHunter said:
Just one more thing, regarding the gfx card, how different will Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR2 be from the HD4850 512MB GDDR3?

A lot.... A Palit 9800GT was beaten black and blue by Palit HD4850.... Get HD blindly,if u want pure gaming horse power .....
 

Psychosocial

Violent serenity.
Thanks,
I was bit confused over C2D and Q6600 as some friends suggested that quad will be better option over C2D.

Just one more thing, regarding the gfx card, how different will Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR2 be from the HD4850 512MB GDDR3?

the Palit 9800GT is like 10-12% slower than the HD4850. If you OC the 9800GT, then it will match the performance of the HD4850.
 

imgame2

Padawan
Thanks,
I was bit confused over C2D and Q6600 as some friends suggested that quad will be better option over C2D.

Just one more thing, regarding the gfx card, how different will Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR2 be from the HD4850 512MB GDDR3?


is there a model of palit 9800GT with DDR2 model ?? if there is it will be slower than DDR3 model

and HD4850 is much better card ...than 9800gt .with much better scaling to higher resolution when applied eye candies ....if u can buy HD4850 ...always go for it ...HD4850 is approximately ..15-20% faster than 9800gt ...well infact usually there is no comparison between 9800gt and HD4850 ...usually HD4850 is compared with 9800gtx (a higher model of 9800 series ) and its much better card than 9800gtx in every way .....so i guess this will give u an idea ...
 

blackbird

Journeyman
Well as for now DDR2 is cheaper but DDR3 is better if u can afford it & there isn't much difference between their performance.

E7200 is fine as rest of the stuff. MSI P45 Neo-F is best suited for ur budget but it doesn't have IGP so u have to look for cheaper graphics card as for now & later upgrade it.
new nVidia 7200GS comes for 1200/- but u can look for used cards for display till u get ur gaming freak.

As for power efficiency AMD processors still leads the way when paired with AMD 7-series/nVidia 8200-series chipset but won't give u enough space for overclocking while INTEL counterpart excels in overclocking.

AMD X38450+AMD780G/nVidia 8200 chipset gives good value & some good power saving options.

So pick whatever suits u.



No its not!
X3 8450 is for 4900/- & X2 6000+ is for 4450/-

Get ASUS P5Q VM - 6k(Availability is an issue)
or
ABIT I-N73HD - 4k(Onboard IGP)
ASUS P5K VM - 5k

All these Moboss have good IGP...

^^ or get something like this

XFX 630i motherboard: 3k
MSI 8600GT: 2.8k-3k

I heard that Abit is going out of businnes. not a good choice to go for it.

The ASUS 8600GT is a better gfx card.



keith_j_snyder2, rajkumar_pb, desiibond, beta testing

Thanks Guys
Still some Question

I was confused in AMD and Intel because of this Point (Most of the people confuse because of this)
1) Intel best Processor (E7200) but base (Motherboards) are not good
2) AMD not good at Processor but Best Base 780g Chipset

Now both are real competitor on the above point
So here are the Tie Breaker Question

1) Can Intel E7200 be overclocked 3.0 easily
2) with any base or suggest one good base
3) Does it need more than 400w PSU ?
4) Will it work with the Default CPU Fan if not than what GHz will without need for cooler?
5) After successfully overclocking will it be comparable to C2D E8400 (3.00GHz) ? Means it will Practically become E8400 Right ? Than will it beat any AMD Phenom + Base 780g in case of HD content ? Will i will see the performance in 3D, APP, GAMES, ETC ETC ?
6) Will it consume more power after overclocking ? like i know that E7200 consume 65w Will it require more than that ?
7) Is crossfire tech available in Intel Base ? (i think crossfire = 1GFX + 1GFX = 2GFX Power at a Time) If not than Anything similar because this is the Upgradeable essential part.
8 ) Will i have to concern abt RAM ? DDR2 800 MHz will be sufficient considering overclocking ? Special brand ?
9) The base of Amd is Advantage (i.e 780g) can it be beaten with a good combo (MB + GFX) price under 6k ? can any one suggest one ?
(The price is set to 6k because GA-MA780G comes under 4.5k)



Suggested Motherboards + GFX card

MSI P35 Neo-F
MSI P45 Neo-F + nVidia 7200GS
XFX 630i + MSI 8600GT or Asus (630i = i think this means XFX MG-630I-7109 Motherboard)
ASUS P5Q VM
ASUS P5K VM
ABIT I-N73HD
ABIT IP35-e



Nobody suggested Gigabyte Product do suggest one with price.

The motherboard should consist this
1333mhz +
DDR3 support
Memory 4GB - 8GB
SATA RAID
Pata Support atleast one
Land card 1Gbps
PCI-E 2.0 (Upgrading plus point) i think it is pci-e 32x (can be avoided)
HDMI Dvi etc if possible. (because it competing with 780g which consist this)


Also i want to ask two things
1) Can i get tv cable signal (Coaxial or dishtv) on computer with GFX card and record them ?
2) Many board above state
Supported CPU Type = Core 2 Extreme (dual and quad core), Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Celeron D, Pentium 4, Pentium 4, Pentium D 9XX, Pentium D 8XX
Does that means it work with my P4 2.4 478 Pin processor ? LOL just a guess :)
 
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