Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[dits59]

hello all

i am new to the forum..and need ur help in buying my new PC..i decided all things except the processor and motherboard(no idea).

My total budget for processor and motherboard is around 13-15K.Since i am not interested much in gaming(no graphics card).im using the system for programming..esp Visual Studio 2008 IDE,SQL IDE etc..

To be frank i am confused in whom to listen.

And i don't know how to overclock and does it affect the guarantee of processor..Well from this forums and others i decided Quad should be the best choice ..and Intel is the one.
But for motherboard why no one recommends Intel Mobo..There are still cheap mobos available..

My Processor :Q6600
Motherboard:Your suggestion??

No Graphics card

Is there a need of extra cooling system if i overclock to some 3 Ghz..

Thx
Expecting a good reply.

 

[rishabh_s]

Well,u wudnt want to know
P4-1.8ghz
768Mb RAM
Gigabyte-sis-mobo
160Gb UltraATA hdd
thats it!!!


I also decided upon
C2D E7200
2x1Gb Ram
ATI HD 3870
dont know about mobo.
Comment on the selection and mention their prices.

 

[desiibond]

@dits and rishabh, What's your budget?

Rishab, if you are ready to buy E7200, pay a little extra and get E8200 or E8400.

 

[dits59]

@dits and rishabh, What's your budget?

Rishab, if you are ready to buy E7200, pay a little extra and get E8200 or E8400.

my budget for both the processor and motherboard is around 14K

 

[rishabh_s]

my budget is 17k. & i need mobo-proccy-ram-gfx card in that amount

 

[a_to_z123]

One question @Cheeta...

Are these H/W the best there r money/performance wise (e.g. tested by Digit), or are these ur personal choices??

Do clear me on that as I want my config. to be the best performer as of today!!

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Well,u wudnt want to know
P4-1.8ghz
768Mb RAM
Gigabyte-sis-mobo
160Gb UltraATA hdd
thats it!!!


I also decided upon
C2D E7200
2x1Gb Ram
ATI HD 3870
dont know about mobo.
Comment on the selection and mention their prices.

cpu-gpu-mobo-ram ?
The card you chose itself costs ~10K in India. In US its dirt cheap but not here.

Try this:

Transcend Value RAM DDR2 200MHz (800MHz effective) 1+1 pair 2K

AMD Penom X3 8450 2.1GHz 5.5K
AMD Athlon X2 4850e 3.2K

Gigabyte or MSI 780G mobo 4.4K
Zotac GF8200 Mobo 3.4K

Palit 9600GSO 6.3K
Mercury 8600GT 3K


the CPU, mobo, gpu are all having two choices. State your need and they can be refined a bit.

 

[smashstid]

hello
Can u plz suggest me the

best processor and mobo configuration for Rs 6500-7500(max)
AMD or Intel proc preferred.

 

[desiibond]

my budget is 17k. & i need mobo-proccy-ram-gfx card in that amount

nVidia has announced drastic price cut on 9500GT. This card is now available for dirt cheap 70$ in USA (less than 3k INR).

9800GT will also be availble for under 10k now. This means that there will be a price cut for HD4850 soon

For now, get this:

1) AMD Phenom 64 X4 9500: Rs.8.5k
2) Gigabyte 780G chipset motherboard (no later than version 1.1): Rs.5k
3) 2x 1Gb DDR2 800 : Rs.2,300

Later once the price of HD4850 comes to somewhere around 7k, get it.

The 780G chipset is directx10 X3200. It's capable of playing crysis at low-mid settings.

Intel:

1) Intel core2duo E8200: Rs.7.5k
2) Abit IP35-E : Rs.5.5k
3) nVidia 9500GT: 5.5k or ATI HD4850 : 10k

 

[Choto Cheeta]

as a result i want to buy another system but my budget is strictly limited to Rs. 15000 /-
15000 should include all major components like monitor, motherboard, proccy, cabinet etc..
please help me build a entry level pc

Do u need a complete PC, i mean incl display / ups and all that or just your CPU (Mobo + Procy + HDD + DVD + Cabinet) ??

also what would be the main use of the system ??

My total budget for processor and motherboard is around 13-15K.Since i am not interested much in gaming(no graphics card).im using the system for programming..esp Visual Studio 2008 IDE,SQL IDE etc..

See incase of Intel usually good motherboards supporting better OC wont come with onboard VGA controller, meaning whether you want it or not, you are in a must to buy a graphics card, ever Nvidia 8400 GS at Rs. 1800/- would do in case of low or no gaming...

Intel Q6600 is a 65nm processor, if possible please do give this a read in comparison with 65nm vs 45nm...

*www.chotocheeta.com/2008/06/18/difference-between-45nm-core-2-duo-quad-and-65nm-core-2-duo-quad/

Q6600 is around Rs. 8.5k where as Q9450 would be at Rs. 12.5k...

at your budget, you may get Q6600 along with ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4800/- + VAT and nvidia 8400 GS (Rs. 1800/- as no onboard option in case of IP35-E)

or you may get Q6600 along with ASUS P5K-VM which is around Rs. 5.5k and comes with onboard X3100

Is there a need of extra cooling system if i overclock to some 3 Ghz..

matter of fact is that Q6600 is one of the worst over clocker in Core 2 Range , you would need heavy cooling gears to push it over 3GHz, in case of me, I need a ThermalRight Ultra 120 extreme to get it over 3 GHz !!!

ThermalRight ultra 120 eXtreme would cost you around Rs. 2500/- and a 120 mm extreme performance CPU FAN would cost around Rs. 800/- to 1200/- depending on the brand you buy...

My suggestion would be trying to invest bit more to buy a 45nm quad rather than investing to over clock a Q6600 !!!

Are these H/W the best there r money/performance wise (e.g. tested by Digit), or are these ur personal choices??

Do clear me on that as I want my config. to be the best performer as of today!!

Sorry, I didnt read this months digit !!! so please mention which are the hardware you are or rather they are talking about ??

do note, digit testing team do have far better knowledge than me at-least

hello
Can u plz suggest me the

best processor and mobo configuration for Rs 6500-7500(max)
AMD or Intel proc preferred.

Sir please mention your need.... I mean what would be the use of the system ??

 

[rishabh_s]

cpu-gpu-mobo-ram ?
The card you chose itself costs ~10K in India. In US its dirt cheap but not here.

Try this:

Transcend Value RAM DDR2 200MHz (800MHz effective) 1+1 pair 2K

AMD Penom X3 8450 2.1GHz 5.5K
AMD Athlon X2 4850e 3.2K

Gigabyte or MSI 780G mobo 4.4K
Zotac GF8200 Mobo 3.4K

Palit 9600GSO 6.3K
Mercury 8600GT 3K


the CPU, mobo, gpu are all having two choices. State your need and they can be refined a bit.

@MetalheadGautham
I need them for watching movies on my HDTV and for some gaming.
& is AMD better than intel in this price range??



@desiibond
i need to buy the whole system by tomorrow so i cant wait much.
also what u suggest is pretty costly
it was really tough for me to convince my dad for this upgrade.

 

[prasath_digit]

Hi guys, i want to buy a new laptop for:-

1. Graphics Programming - C,C++,OpenGL
2. FPS Gaming - Doom 3,NFS Most Wanted,Bioshock & Mr.Crysis

My current Desktop's Spec is:-

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+
ASUS M2N-MX [nForce 430 MCP]
2GB DDR2 667Mhz [1GB x 2 ] [ Dual-Channel ] [ Transcend ]
XFX Geforce 7600GT 256MB DDR3 XXX Edition [ 590,1600 ]

This thing can run

- Crysis @ 20-25fps @ 800x600 @ DX9 All-Setting High [ Except Textures & Objects]

- Doom 3 & Quake 4 @ 60 fps @ 1024x768 @ Ultra-Settings [ No-AA ]

I want a laptop that is only just a little-bit faster than my above Desktop in all apps.......I don know anything abt laptops, which brand to buy,Dell,Hp or some other plz.....recommend.........A DX10 Graphics Card is a must either nVidia or ATI.............

wat abt the nVidia 8600MobileGT? is it any faster than the 7600GT on my desktop?

My budget can stretch a max up to 65,000/- only.............

 

[MetalheadGautham]

hello
Can u plz suggest me the

best processor and mobo configuration for Rs 6500-7500(max)
AMD or Intel proc preferred.

Do you need just CPU and mobo or even RAM ?
Do you intend to OverClock this system ?

@MetalheadGautham
I need them for watching movies on my HDTV and for some gaming.
& is AMD better than intel in this price range??



@desiibond
i need to buy the whole system by tomorrow so i cant wait much.
also what u suggest is pretty costly
it was really tough for me to convince my dad for this upgrade.

At this range, AMD is better. But we still need to wait until next month when Nehalem is out and brings price cuts.

By gaming, do you want to do some heavy gaming or light gaming ? What are the games you want to play ?

 

[prvprv]

Please suggest a good mother board for E7200 overclocking with dual channel memory support
Price must be below 3.5 k
which RAM is better 667MHz or 800MHz

 

[utsav]

GIGABYTE - GA-EG31M-S2 is a good board for E7200. I ordered this board for my new E7200 and i will get it today .reviews say its a good enough overclocker for E7200 . I am getting the board for 2.9k all inclusive.

 

[Sandeepfrompune]

I have decided to take following. Most of the prices from techshop.in - some components are
locally avail , prices are few hundreds more and less.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Processor 13400
Abit IP35 Pro Motherboard 9,961 ( or ASUS p5K ? )
Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 800MHz 3100
GRAPHICS CARD ------WHICH ONE----- 0
Western Digital Caviar RE SATA 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 3400
Sony SATA AD-7190S-OB DVD Writer 1600
Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W Power Supply 3600
Cooler Master CM 690 Computer Case 4200
ViewSonic 20" VA2026W - Monitor 1680 x 1050 12000
Creative 5.1 Sound Blaster 850
Cooling Device ( like thermal ultra 120 ) NONE right now 0
TOTAL ==================== 52,111/-

thinking ------ hehehehe please read on....
I have some MONEY limitations. Its like > 50,000 its hard to go ahead. I am trying as much...
So right now considering FUTURE, I will get mobo - such that - even new processors will be
able to OC on this well. For e.g. Nehalam from INtel.
I have decided to go MAX on Processor rather than GPU. as my gaming needs are not that high.
So in DUO range I will have E8500. In future I can put (additionally, not as replacement
so that I will have one Best proc of each type ) in QUAD version whatever is good at that time.
GPU - tell me some low end card like 7800 I heard which will be avail for cheap price. BUT it
should be able to play normal games like prince 2 SOT/T2T , AOE 2/3d etc. Actually whatever
MAX possible like evne crysis too!!! I want 512mb but cheap version. I will replace this with better one in future.
Qns ----

1. can someone tell me exact model of ASUS P5K ? - I mean from very first post by chotocheetah
please go to*techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=10 and tell me which one exactly there.

2. I hope Abit-IP-35-PRO (and ASUS P5K etc. ) will be able to do OClocking on Nehalam processors ?

3. I put more money for EVGA 9600GT 512 MB Knock-out or Super Clock or such any other
SC/OC cards then do I have to use GPU card coolers mustly ?
rightnow I am not using proc cooler -not OCing.

4. considering above GPU thinking, any good but cheap GPU out there ? please suggest -
( I will go for good GPU and quad proc. in future when I will save money and I hope I will be able to put that in this config without any problem....)

Thanks for reading

 

[MetalheadGautham]

GIGABYTE - GA-EG31M-S2 is a good board for E7200. I ordered this board for my new E7200 and i will get it today .reviews say its a good enough overclocker for E7200 . I am getting the board for 2.9k all inclusive.

You sure it overclocks ? I think Palit 630i, which lacks dual channel, can still be a much better overclocker. G31 chipset was meant for HTPC use, not OCer use.

 

[prasath_digit]

Hi guys, i want to buy a new laptop for:-

1. Graphics Programming - C,C++,OpenGL
2. FPS Gaming - Doom 3,NFS Most Wanted,Bioshock & Mr.Crysis

My current Desktop's Spec is:-

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+
ASUS M2N-MX [nForce 430 MCP]
2GB DDR2 667Mhz [1GB x 2 ] [ Dual-Channel ] [ Transcend ]
XFX Geforce 7600GT 256MB DDR3 XXX Edition [ 590,1600 ]

This thing can run

- Crysis @ 20-25fps @ 800x600 @ DX9 All-Setting High [ Except Textures & Objects]

- Doom 3 & Quake 4 @ 60 fps @ 1024x768 @ Ultra-Settings [ No-AA ]

I want a laptop that is only just a little-bit faster than my above Desktop in all apps.......I don know anything abt laptops, which brand to buy,Dell,Hp or some other plz.....recommend.........A DX10 Graphics Card is a must either nVidia or ATI.............

wat abt the nVidia 8600MobileGT? is it any faster than the 7600GT on my desktop?

if there are any notebooks based around the 8800MGT.....do let me know.........

My budget can stretch a max up to 65,000/- only.............

 

[janitha]

@sandeepfrompune

Nehalem is the next generation of CPUs from Intel and you cannot use a current Mobo for it. You better wait tor one or two months.
*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3326&p=3

 

[utsav]

You sure it overclocks ? I think Palit 630i, which lacks dual channel, can still be a much better overclocker. G31 chipset was meant for HTPC use, not OCer use.

Go chk out the reviews many people have pushed their E7200 to 3.4GHz on this board. :rolleys: 3.4GHz is a good enough OC imo. For going any further you will need after-market cpu coolers which is not worth the further gain in clock speeds. And also you hav to invest in a mobo like Abit IP35-E which costs double than the gigabyte G31 mobo . And yeah ,dual channel ram is a must these days , so no way for 630i .