Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[prakum]

budget is not a prblem but lower the better
it will be used for normal office work. plus it may be used to run development softwares like visual studio, oracle etc.
it should be intel based, if you suggest amd alternative then no problem
it would be bonus if pc look attractive

my choice:

E7200
mobo not decided (Gigabyte GA-P35 -S3G if available and have onboard VGA )
2GB DDR2 667/800MHz
Barracuda 7200.10 80GB (enough)
Viewsonic 17" TFT
Lite-On DVR-RW IDE
Logitech mouse & KBD
cabinet not decided

 

[Choto Cheeta]

it will be used for normal office work. plus it may be used to run development softwares like visual studio, oracle etc.
it should be intel based, if you suggest amd alternative then no problem

ASUS P5K-VM available at Rs. 5.4k *techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=858 good price and great board

(Gigabyte GA-P35 -S3G if available and have onboard VGA )

P35 usually comes with no onboard video as the chipst by default doesnt support any video !!! hence no video either

*www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/Image/motherboard_productimageback_ga-p35-s3g_big.jpg

ASUS P5K-VM should be the best available option as the P5B-V boards are not there any more !!

 

[Sandeepfrompune]

To ChotoCheetah, I read ur link and it was gr8 piece of info. from where u got all that info that intel names them in certain way.. and all.. ( about page of- diff between 45nm and 65nm link on ur website ) BTW - now i have most doubts cleared and in position to decide what i want. still last 2 Qns - to anyone who can answer
1. as in performance C2Q (like 9450) is preferred and in gaming E8500 will be better - exactly what areas are here where Quad scores over C2D ? -
by performance means running say Web-Server sort of ? or heavy software ...(wanted to know which one is good at that ) right now no many games (then I guess noy many softwares are as well ) who take use of full 4 cores ...

2. for any of above 9450/E8500(E8400) - apart from Abit IP-35-Pro (or 45) what other mobo are good which support OCing also ? ( if possible give price range also..)

3. not a Qn, just wanted for info - please give link or url where I can ge info about Whats ddr2 ddr3 (all that jargon..)? and dd2 or ddr3 ram is decided by what etc. I guess GPU ram being ddr3 or ddr2 does not makes diff. is it ?

 

[Choto Cheeta]

To ChotoCheetah, I read ur link and it was gr8 piece of info.

thank you....

BTW - now i have most doubts cleared and in position to decide what i want. still last 2 Qns - to anyone who can answer

I shall try to share what i know

1. as in performance C2Q (like 9450) is preferred and in gaming E8500 will be better - exactly what areas are here where Quad scores over C2D ? - by performance means running say Web-Server sort of ? or heavy software ...

You question has its answer

(wanted to know which one is good at that ) right now no many games (then I guess noy many softwares are as well ) who take use of full 4 cores ...

Bingo... There are not may application right now which would be able to ustilize the all 4 cores !!!

Now why does as a gamer E8500 runs better ??

Because in case of stock, E8500 comes with higher clock speed compare to Q9450 (both this have exactly same retailing price) also E8500 is really good over clocker so it can do higher than 3.2 GHz even on stock, hence as most of present games relay more on clock speed hence E8500 performse better than Q9450 at same price range !!!

So its not that Quads are slow as if you can afford get your self an eXtreme edition QX9770 which will match the clock speed and Over clocking ability of E8500 hence would performe better than E8500

But all that will change as yes all thought software development are not that fast as hardware is concern, but games are now days coming an next gen games would have support to use the power of 4 cores...

4 cores running at 2.6 GHz along with 12 MB L2 would certainly be better than 2 running at 3.0 GHzwith 6 MB L2 but only when you have an application which can use this...

Right now in our real world apps I can give you couple of example such as Windows Server Hyper-V would certainly run better in case of a Quad.... Few DivX / Xvid decoder / encoder would have better performance with SSE4.1 instruction set.... CAD applications would need 4 cores !!!

So though software is not in market right now but that doesnt mean they are not available of not going to be..

2. for any of above 9450/E8500(E8400) - apart from Abit IP-35-Pro (or 45) what other mobo are good which support OCing also ? ( if possible give price range also..)

Now days start thinking for PCIe 2.0 boards as unlike DDR3, PCIe 2.0 cards now have become mainstream hence at same price range you may find ASUS P5N-D but MSI P45 Platimum is also a great otion

 

[pranavsg07]

hey I want to purchase a new system. My budget is Rs. 50000. I am into gaming and animation. Please guide me.

Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400
Motherboard: ASUS M3A-H/HDMI or M3A32-MVP Deluxe
RAM : 2 GB DDR2 (800 Mhz)
Hard Disk : 500 GB Seagate SATA II
Monitor : Viewsonic 19"
Graphic Card: GeCube Radeon HD 4850
Speakers : Creative Inspire 5.1
Cabinet : Antec TX1088AMG
Keyboard/ Mouse : Logitech Standard

Tell me if the above configuration is right or do I need to make any changes.

 

[Night-Rider]

MetalheadGautham u didn't answer my question.

well, phenom is for uber multitasking and 64bit virtualisation, along with running 3core supporting games. But for exclusive gaming, I say ditch phenom and stick with E7200. Its good that you are buying from theitwares.com. It would only make things a hell lot easier for both me and you.

Get Palit HD4850, E7200 and And Abit IP35-E in that case.

How would it make things easier for you? But getting HD4850 is out of my budget. I have a budget of 25k only. It doesn't matter if its above 200 or so. Hope u understand.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

sir, any other good mobo which has good onboard video? mobo shud be good easily available in market.

Simple. But you need to spend 6.2k for it. Get Biostar P35 board for 4.4K and 8400GS or HD3450 for 1.8K. Total 6.2K. Just Rs. 700 more than Abit IP35-E. And much better graphics than GMA X3500.

MetalheadGautham u didn't answer my question.

How would it make things easier for you? But getting HD4850 is out of my budget. I have a budget of 25k only. It doesn't matter if its above 200 or so. Hope u understand.

then get 9600GSO. Its the best choice now.

 

[Night-Rider]

How much is the performance difference between 9600Gt and GSO? I want high fps.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Tell me if the above configuration is right or do I need to make any changes.

Replace the processor with any X4 or at-least X3

Phenom X4 9550 is @ Rs. 8000/- + VAT
Phenom X3 8450 is @ Rs. 5500/- + VAT

thank you.

 

[Pathik]

How much is the performance difference between 9600Gt and GSO? I want high fps.

Then get the 8800GT 512MB. Or wait for the ATi 4850.

 

[Plasma_Snake]

Like we saw 9800Gt in SLi mode in the form 9800GTX2, is 8800GT available in the same mode? I will also be upgrading my system soon and since my screen can support max res of 1360x768 only can you suggest me a card(or 2 in SLi) that can play even future games like Alan Wake in above mentioned resolutions without any noticeable frame drop?
Can we expect drop in 790i's rate by this December?
I say December cause in December, hopefully I'll be upgrading my

1. Processor : E6300(Currently) Upgrade-???
2. Mobo: Asus P5LD2 VM SE(945G) Upgrade-???
3. RAM: Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 667 MHz(Current) Upgrade- 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz or 2x1GB DDR3
4. GPU: Asus EN7600GT(256MB DDR3) Upgrade-???
5. PSU: Frontech 350W (Current) Upgrade- Corsair HX620 or a 750W (gonna import one)

HDD I've one 400GB one and other 160GB one, speakers I've T6060, got 'em for 4K back in Feb.2007

 

[niravjadwani]

Help me save money....

Hi friends.

I want a solution to buying a new pc. I have a pentium 4 with all the frills necessary for a office pc.

Now, I need another pc for accounting purpose, as this pc is almost occupied with internet browsing. The problem is,

1. The place is relatively small, and I don't want to fill it with two pc cabinets.

2. I don't want to spend money on entirely new system, just for the accounting purpose.

So, here is my idea. I am trying to find a sloution that will enable me to put two keyboard, mouse and monitor, with processing from one pc, or Cabinet I would say.

Have any idea how this can be done?
Please help me out, as I don't want to waste money and space.

Thanx in advance.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Re: Help me save money....

May be this thread can help *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71700

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Re: Help me save money....

I think you can try for a dual monitor + dual input setup. Linux supports that for free, so if you are capable of using it, I suggest you try installing it.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

hey I want to purchase a new system. My budget is Rs. 50000. I am into gaming and animation. Please guide me.

Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400
Motherboard: ASUS M3A-H/HDMI or M3A32-MVP Deluxe
RAM : 2 GB DDR2 (800 Mhz)
Hard Disk : 500 GB Seagate SATA II
Monitor : Viewsonic 19"
Graphic Card: GeCube Radeon HD 4850
Speakers : Creative Inspire 5.1
Cabinet : Antec TX1088AMG
Keyboard/ Mouse : Logitech Standard

Tell me if the above configuration is right or do I need to make any changes.

As ChotoCheeta said, get a X4 or X3 as the CPU. And get a 790FX or 790F CrossFire motherboard instead of 780G if you intend to have high end dedicated graphics.

I personally recommend any Phenom X4 above 2.0GHz, and Phenom 9350 will do wonders.
But if you are on a budget, get the Phenom X4 8450.

Animation ? I think you might need to up the RAM to 4GB in that case. But who cares ? You can get more memory later if you so wish.

Replace the processor with any X4 or at-least X3

Phenom X4 9550 is @ Rs. 8000/- + VAT
Phenom X3 8450 is @ Rs. 5500/- + VAT

thank you.

Do you have any price info about X4 9150, the cheapest quad core the world has seen ? Its hard to see in India.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Do you have any price info about X4 9150, the cheapest quad core the world has seen ? Its hard to see in India.

I have already writen than dealers here in Kolkata expecting it (or rather lower range X4 and some price drop) after 8th of this month

 

[MetalheadGautham]

AMD Phenom X4 9150

I have already writen than dealers here in Kolkata expecting it (or rather lower range X4 and some price drop) after 8th of this month

what ?
how much can it be ? 6k ?

 

[W i d e S c r e e N]

@ Choto Cheeta.

I have this config purchased in Mid 2005.

AMD 64 X2 4200+
MSI K8N DIAMOND
512MB x2
Sony/LiteON DVD Burner
7800GT

Since last six months I've had this problem of click noise coming from the HDD. Ive replaced the HDDs from 160 to 400 from 400 to 750 now.

I think the Motherboard is a problem here?
Or a BIOS update will solve the problem?

is the life cycle of this motherboard over? Should I wait or get a new config? Please advice

I got the problem solved of clickin noise. It gave birth to a new problem, there's a freeze on running processes, maybe an internal problem or whatever..

I've been using this config since mid 2005, the system runs 15hrs/day. It has handled demanding tasks. Still is. But i think due to the issue my future files maybe in danger.

Should i hold on or sell it?

the random freezing now rarely occurs

A quick and straightforward little question:

I heard old samsung 80GB HDDs had lots of issues. Is it true ? Can someone tell me if my 2005 Samsung 80GB SATA HDD has those ultra low life expectancy problems ? When should I start backing up ?

The three quotes from me are in order of when posted.

Metal's posts asked the qustion which i think i was indirectly asking about. : life expectancy of computer hardware

 

[Ashok Verma]

help buying new PC

hi friends,
one of my friends want to buy a new PC(assembled).
he wants my suggestion for it.
please give me the configuration with latest prices(approx.).
My budget is 18K - 25K.

my preferences are given below, please suggest if these are good or not.
also suggest good options if you have..

1. Processor - Intel Quad core
Q9300
Q9450
Q6600

2. Mother board - ASUS P5N32-E-SLI
ASUS Striker Extreme
ASUS P5K Premium
i would like to stick to ASUS, But u can suggest any other brand but with good features of course.

3. HDD - Seagate 500GB SATA 7200.11 32MB buffer.

4. RAM - 2GB/800MHz by ZION or Transcend or Hynix
(Which one is better, please suggest)

5.DVD-RW - (SATA)
which is the Best DVD-RW available i'm thinking to go for Samsung SH-S223F
Please suggest a good Dvd writer with good buffer and build quality.

6.Monitor - Also Suggest a good 19" TFT

7.Keyboard/Mouse - Logitech, Multimedia KB, Optical Mouse
(suggest if any good brand than Logitech)

8. SMPS - which one i should go for 600w or 800W.

9. MFP (All-in-one) - I want MFP with Print+Scan+Copy (No Fax required) for home use. with decent photo print quality and scan resolution
i'm would like to buy it of HP Make.

please Help me.!!!!!
Thanks in advance

 

[MetalheadGautham]

^^I doubt you could fit everything in that budget. How about switching to AMD Triple Core and 780G ?

remaining everything looks reasonable. the HDD and Optical Drive and RAM you chose are all A-OK.

Monitor - I suggest Dell.

Yes, HP makes the best MFPs. But if he is a student (or has someone in his house who needs regular prints), I suggest going for a basic Monochrome Laser Printer.