sumonpathak
knocking on heavens door
its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die 
take the 2500K..be happy
take the 2500K..be happy
Badass Gaming PC for 80K
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i5 3570k is not that much faster than i5 2500k.It runs hotter and overclocks lesser than i5 2500k.
Unless you want to use the faster quick sync(intel's video transcoding engine) of i5 3570k which is faster than the quick sync implementation in i5 2500k,i5 2500k is a better value for money.
i5 3570k is not that much faster than i5 2500k.It runs hotter and overclocks lesser than i5 2500k.
Unless you want to use the faster quick sync(intel's video transcoding engine) of i5 3570k which is faster than the quick sync implementation in i5 2500k,i5 2500k is a better value for money.
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lovedonator
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its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy
OK,i2500k it is. @sumonpathak,the link you gave in your first post has some components listed at WELCOME TO MDCOMPUTERS ::::::::::The Ultimate IT Solutions:::::::::: Have you ever purchased something from there? I've never heard about this site and I can not find those components at the same price in any other website.
its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy
OK,i2500k it is. @sumonpathak,the link you gave in your first post has some components listed at *mdcomputers.in/ Have you ever purchased something from there? I've never heard about this site and I can not find those components at the same price in any other website.
mandarpalshikar
Why So Serious ???
IMO.... You are bulding an 80K rig... dont think about saving 2k... go with the latest components.
Not everybody is hardcore overclocker. I've never used a 2500K but I've got 3570K running at 4.2GHz always... can crank it up to 4.4 GHz with ease... this too on just CM Hyper 212 Evo with 2 Fans. What else do you need as a Gamer (not as enthusiast overclocker) ? Get 2500K if you are aiming at sky-high overclocks beyond 4.8GHz 
. IMO for new rig use 3570K instead of 2500K . 3570K consumes less power as well. I dont see any reason why anyone would choose SB over IB for a new system build when pairing with Z77 chipset.
Not everybody is hardcore overclocker
. I've never used a 2500K but I've got 3570K running at 4.2GHz always... can crank it up to 4.4 GHz with ease... this too on just CM Hyper 212 Evo with 2 Fans. What else do you need as a Gamer (not as enthusiast overclocker) ? Get 2500K if you are aiming at sky-high overclocks beyond 4.8GHz . IMO for new rig use 3570K instead of 2500K . 3570K consumes less power as well. I dont see any reason why anyone would choose SB over IB for a new system build when pairing with Z77 chipset.
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lovedonator
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its not better...just a rehash on a smaller die
take the 2500K..be happy
I'm like a see-saw nowIMO.... You are bulding an 80K rig... dont think about saving 2k... go with the latest components.
Not everybody is hardcore overclocker
OK,will think about it. Meanwhile what about the Graphics Card? The suggested 7850 enough or should take the leap and buy 660ti?
sharang.d
Youngling
i5-2500k.
No need to waste 2k for no extra features/gain.
I bought a new system a month ago and was in the same dilemma as you are. Go for i5-2500k.
2k is a lot.
Keyboard:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Logitech G105
Both are out of production but totally vfm. Search in local shops.
CPU Cooler:
Hyper 212 EVO will be enough for your needs. Think no more.
Mouse:
Logitech G400
Motherboard:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO / P8Z77M-PRO
PSU:
Corsair GS 600
Seasonic S1211 620W
DVD Drive:
Any. Everyone has different experiences with different brands
RAM:
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3
SSD & Monitor:
Don't cheap out on this. Research a lot. Will help in the long run.
Rest of the stuff:
No idea
No need to waste 2k for no extra features/gain.
I bought a new system a month ago and was in the same dilemma as you are. Go for i5-2500k.
2k is a lot.
Keyboard:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Logitech G105
Both are out of production but totally vfm. Search in local shops.
CPU Cooler:
Hyper 212 EVO will be enough for your needs. Think no more.
Mouse:
Logitech G400
Motherboard:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO / P8Z77M-PRO
PSU:
Corsair GS 600
Seasonic S1211 620W
DVD Drive:
Any. Everyone has different experiences with different brands
RAM:
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3
SSD & Monitor:
Don't cheap out on this. Research a lot. Will help in the long run.
Rest of the stuff:
No idea
OP
lovedonator
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I wont find anything locally in this godforsaken city. And if I find something it will be highly overpriced. So I'll have to look for other keyboards.i5-2500k.
No need to waste 2k for no extra features/gain.
I bought a new system a month ago and was in the same dilemma as you are. Go for i5-2500k.
2k is a lot.
Keyboard:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Logitech G105
Both are out of production but totally vfm. Search in local shops.
CPU Cooler:
Hyper 212 EVO will be enough for your needs. Think no more.
Mouse:
Logitech G400
Motherboard:
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO / P8Z77M-PRO
PSU:
Corsair GS 600
Seasonic S1211 620W
DVD Drive:
Any. Everyone has different experiences with different brands
RAM:
G-skill RipjawX 1600 MHz 4GB X 2 DDR3
SSD & Monitor:
Don't cheap out on this. Research a lot. Will help in the long run.
Rest of the stuff:
No idea
As for the SSD I've decide not to buy it and use my Seagate 1TB HDD for now.
mandarpalshikar
Why So Serious ???
Despite the higher-than-expected cost and higher operating temperatures, the Core i5-3570K is a worthy successor to the Core i5-2500K. It's noticeably faster, more power efficient, has a more powerful IGP and combined with a Z77 chipset motherboard, will offer far more features too.
Bit-tech.com review
The Intel Core i5-3570K processor represents a logical replacement for the popular Core i5-2500K that's found a home in many an enthusiast and system integrator system.
Run the Core i5-3570K at stock speeds/voltages and it provides the best bang-for-buck in the £150 space.
hexus.net review
The new Intel Core i5 3570K has everything that made its Core i5 2500K such a winning CPU. Per core performance is the best you can buy.
A great chip, but Core i5 2550K and i5 2500K owners have nothing to worry about.
techradar.com review
Unfortunately, the unusually high temperatures found during overclocking beyond 1.3V is most likely partly caused by this new process. This doesn't pose too much of a concern as a decent CPU air cooler can still handle overclocks within the 1.2-1.3V range with decent results and those who wish to push Ivy Bridge CPUs much further will be experienced extreme overclockers with LN2 cooling. Average performance tuners also don't really need to adjust secondary voltages as much anymore, compared to previous generation CPUs, since the memory controller can handle higher clocks.
hightechlegion review
Bottom line is....
1. If you have a 2500K already dont see 3570K as competition but as a worthy succesor and hold on to 2500K till next gen CPUs come.
2. If you are building a new rig go for 3570K as it is the successor to 2500K.
3. 3570K consumes less power at idle
4. Temperature factors in only in case of overclocking with Higer voltages.
5. If software support gets available in next 6 months it would be really awsome to see a video of say BD quality being ripped for your phone in just a matter of 10 minutes with use of Quicksync.
I am in no way criticising 2500K... its a great processor (no questions asked) but 3570K is its worthy successor and while building new rig 3570K is the way to go.
2k is not at all a higher premium for getting current generation procy. Ultimately you decide how much you value the 2k cost factor.
Bit-tech.com review
The Intel Core i5-3570K processor represents a logical replacement for the popular Core i5-2500K that's found a home in many an enthusiast and system integrator system.
Run the Core i5-3570K at stock speeds/voltages and it provides the best bang-for-buck in the £150 space.
hexus.net review
The new Intel Core i5 3570K has everything that made its Core i5 2500K such a winning CPU. Per core performance is the best you can buy.
A great chip, but Core i5 2550K and i5 2500K owners have nothing to worry about.
techradar.com review
Unfortunately, the unusually high temperatures found during overclocking beyond 1.3V is most likely partly caused by this new process. This doesn't pose too much of a concern as a decent CPU air cooler can still handle overclocks within the 1.2-1.3V range with decent results and those who wish to push Ivy Bridge CPUs much further will be experienced extreme overclockers with LN2 cooling. Average performance tuners also don't really need to adjust secondary voltages as much anymore, compared to previous generation CPUs, since the memory controller can handle higher clocks.
hightechlegion review
Bottom line is....
1. If you have a 2500K already dont see 3570K as competition but as a worthy succesor and hold on to 2500K till next gen CPUs come.
2. If you are building a new rig go for 3570K as it is the successor to 2500K.
3. 3570K consumes less power at idle
4. Temperature factors in only in case of overclocking with Higer voltages.
5. If software support gets available in next 6 months it would be really awsome to see a video of say BD quality being ripped for your phone in just a matter of 10 minutes with use of Quicksync.
I am in no way criticising 2500K... its a great processor (no questions asked) but 3570K is its worthy successor and while building new rig 3570K is the way to go.
2k is not at all a higher premium for getting current generation procy. Ultimately you decide how much you value the 2k cost factor.
OP
lovedonator
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OK Guys,these are the components I have finalized and going to order tomorrow-
Processor-Intel i5 3570K
Motherboard-Asus P8Z77-M Pro
Ram-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9
PC Case- Corsair Carbide 400R
PSU- GS600
Heatsink-CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo
Mouse-Logitech G400
Jury is still out on the following-
Graphic card- Is the 7850 enough or I should spend 6k more and get a 7870?
Monitor
A nice keyboard which I can purchase online
I'm really grateful for all the help I have received till now. If not for you guys I would surely have had no Idea what to purchase. You guys are the greatest.
Processor-Intel i5 3570K
Motherboard-Asus P8Z77-M Pro
Ram-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600mhz cl9
PC Case- Corsair Carbide 400R
PSU- GS600
Heatsink-CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo
Mouse-Logitech G400
Jury is still out on the following-
Graphic card- Is the 7850 enough or I should spend 6k more and get a 7870?
Monitor
A nice keyboard which I can purchase online
I'm really grateful for all the help I have received till now. If not for you guys I would surely have had no Idea what to purchase. You guys are the greatest.
Not at all. 7850 will NOT run Crysis 1/2, Metro 2033, GTA 4 , Skyrim with ENB and mods at Ultra at 1080p at more than 40 fps. Take Crysis 2 for example. With the DX11 and High texture update, Crysis 2 will run at 35-45 fps at Ultra on a 7850. Better should be expected from a 80k computer.
OP- Use the 1TB harddisk you already have for now. My suggestion is to hold back on the SSD, get cheaper mouse and keyboard for the time being, and fit a ZOTAC Nvidia 670 Amp Edition for 30k in there. Assuming you go with this build ^^, it should now cost you around 83-84k. Within your budget and with a much better graphics card, that can run Crysis 2 at an average of 63 FPS easily, as a reference.
EDIT: Just saw that the 670 amp edition is now 33k on Flipkart. A week ago it was 30.2k. Prices fluctuate a lot from site to site and time to time. Keep looking and see if you can find a 670 Amp for ~31k. It will max out any present game at 1080p Ultra @ 60+fps and you won't have to upgrade anytime soon.
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Darth Vader
In the zone
Montior:
Last time i checked with smcinternational Dell U2312HM sold for 15k shipped. If ur budget is tight, then go for any 24" TN panel monitor (benq,Dell,Samsung)
which cost around 10-12k max.
GPU:Badass Gaming PC needs Badass video card (HD7870 or higher)
OP
lovedonator
Ambassador of Buzz
Montior:
Last time i checked with smcinternational Dell U2312HM sold for 15k shipped. If ur budget is tight, then go for any 24" TN panel monitor (benq,Dell,Samsung)
which cost around 10-12k max.
GPU:Badass Gaming PC needs Badass video card (HD7870 or higher)
This I agree upon. Will see what I can do.Will fit a 7870 at least in my budget.
Tell me one thing,do SMCinternational ship all over India?
gameranand
Living to Play
Yes they do ship all over India AFAIK.
OP
lovedonator
Ambassador of Buzz
Thanks
@lovedonator
If you are going for hd7870 better opt for hd7950.MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC is only 2k more than MSI R7870 Twin Frozr.
There is significant performance difference between hd7950 and hd7870.For gaming better GPU is more important.Upcoming titles would be more demanding.
From a gaming point of view you can opt for i5 2500k instead of i5 3570k and invest the saved money on a better GPU.HD7950 would be better in the longer run.
You would get noticeably better performance(frame-rates) with a better GPU rather than if you opt for i5 3570k instead i5 2500k.
If one opts goes from hd7870 to hd7950 then he gets ~15% better gaming performance for 9% increase in price.
Whereas if one goes from i5 2500k to i5 3570k then he gets ~5% better cpu performance for ~15% increase in price.
i5 3570k is only a choice if you want the faster quick sync(quick sync with i5 2500k is fast enough though).
If you are going for hd7870 better opt for hd7950.MSI R7950-2PMD3GD5/OC is only 2k more than MSI R7870 Twin Frozr.
There is significant performance difference between hd7950 and hd7870.For gaming better GPU is more important.Upcoming titles would be more demanding.
From a gaming point of view you can opt for i5 2500k instead of i5 3570k and invest the saved money on a better GPU.HD7950 would be better in the longer run.
You would get noticeably better performance(frame-rates) with a better GPU rather than if you opt for i5 3570k instead i5 2500k.
If one opts goes from hd7870 to hd7950 then he gets ~15% better gaming performance for 9% increase in price.
Whereas if one goes from i5 2500k to i5 3570k then he gets ~5% better cpu performance for ~15% increase in price.
i5 3570k is only a choice if you want the faster quick sync(quick sync with i5 2500k is fast enough though).
OP
lovedonator
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Darth Vader
In the zone
mandarpalshikar
Why So Serious ???
^^ Agree about the fact that OP should opt for 7950 rather than 7870. 7950 in the price bracket of 7870 are stock designs...I'm not sure about their perfromance but still the chip is far more better than that on 78xx series and you'll be future proof for 3 years. Ultimately for gaming once you get beyond 40 to 50 FPS rates, it doesn't matter how much more you get. That matters for benchmarks though.
I dont agree to compare performance-price ratio of a GPU to that of a CPU. At the end of the day its not my 2K to invest in new generation CPU and contribute in evolution process.
@OP - you are the one to decide. And come-on you are getting a rig for 80K right ? + or - 3 to 4k wont matter.
And BTW 7950 is a overclock monster... see my overclock in my singautre. Opt for 7950 even if you see less core frequency than 7870 because it has a superior chip core and many other additional features such as more transistor count. Just check out the specification on AMD site and compare them.
I dont agree to compare performance-price ratio of a GPU to that of a CPU. At the end of the day its not my 2K to invest in new generation CPU and contribute in evolution process.
@OP - you are the one to decide. And come-on you are getting a rig for 80K right ? + or - 3 to 4k wont matter.
And BTW 7950 is a overclock monster... see my overclock in my singautre. Opt for 7950 even if you see less core frequency than 7870 because it has a superior chip core and many other additional features such as more transistor count. Just check out the specification on AMD site and compare them.
OP
lovedonator
Ambassador of Buzz
The Twinfrozr version of 7950 by MSI is not available in India I think. Can not find it any where.
Which brands' 7950 you will suggest?
mandarpalshikar
Why So Serious ???
^^ Prices of 79xx series have suddenly increased in last 2 days... I mean we were expecting a price drop and now this increase. lol