Apple treating India as iPhone 4's dumping ground?

moniker

Broken In
As an Android user, and being someone who likes to play around with it by rooting, flashing custom ROMs and installing tons of tweaks and mods, the idea of a closed system does make you cringe. It's a smartphone after all. It should behave how you want it to be, not how Apple wants it to be.
 

moniker

Broken In
IPhone 4 - Single core 1 GHz Cortex A8. Powervr SGX535 GPU. Price: 25k
Compare it to something like the Samsung Galaxy S Advance -
Dual core 1GHz Cortex A9. Mali-400 GPU. Price: 13-14k.
I rest my case.
 

nikufellow

In the zone
Why blame apple (am not an isheep) its upto people - they can choose to be either Rational or Ignorant! If its the latter that they choose to be (or happen to be in by chance) then they are sure to be exploited in one way or the other!
 

amjath

Human Spambot
@amjath Well the things you copy pasted are rather lame.
1)Voice navigation may not be available but I have done navigation on my 2 year old iOS device.

2)Tell me ONE voice assistant which is inbuilt into a mobile phone OS and doesn't need internet access?

3) About you crying about facetime; why not install Skype and interact with any person on any platform?

4) Panorama can be had on any iOS device. There are plenty of apps available.

5) About Siri having restrictions etc; well I did use Siri and while not perfect it did work.
Even Google voice is not perfect.

U want to know where it came from its from their own site
Apple - iOS 6 - iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch get 200+ new features.

I'm not trying to degrade Apple products, What I am trying to say is that going for this promotion for iphone 4 is absolutely stupidity.

Apple really wants to dump them here, they want to get good market share here in India.

Spending so much on this fragmented device is absolute waste rather u can go for Lumia 720 or better droids
 

roady

Digital Marketer
Why blame apple (am not an isheep) its upto people - they can choose to be either Rational or Ignorant! If its the latter that they choose to be (or happen to be in by chance) then they are sure to be exploited in one way or the other!

Ignorant? You're saying that if someone buys Apple products, s/he's ignorant? Uneducated? Sheesh. First you say let's leave it up to individuals. And then you call these individuals 'ignorant'. Did you mean "not-giving-a-damn-about-price"? :)
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
In that price , isn't there any phone which looks better to you? May be even well below that.

Ofcourse. A lot of phones. But thats my view. If someone else thinks that he wats to buy the Iphone 4 at that price then thats his view. And apparently a lot of people still want them, which means that there is a markrt for them.
 

Extreme Gamer

僕はガンダム!
Vendor
@firstpost: This isn't the first time apple has tried to dump their old products in India. It happens in every generation. Maybe it took you guys a ToI article to notice, but it is nothing new.
 

raksrules

Youngling
IPhone 4 - Single core 1 GHz Cortex A8. Powervr SGX535 GPU. Price: 25k
Compare it to something like the Samsung Galaxy S Advance -
Dual core 1GHz Cortex A9. Mali-400 GPU. Price: 13-14k.
I rest my case.

Good that you rest your case as your comparison is not only absurd but stupid by all means.
Both are different OSes is the first thing you need to consider.
iOS apps on an iPhone 4 run as smooth and lag free even with single core (as you pointed). Go play the same game on an android of same config.
Comparing internal specs of an iOS device to an android is a stupid comparison.


PS: I would appreciate a like button on this forum.
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
:facepalm: was gonna post haters gonna hate and get out of here, but will try one last time

apple is not dumping em here, the 4 is a great device, using the 3GS and no problems with it, it's def not a fossil. donno why 4 is a dump. gimme all ur waste 4s, yeah that's right, nobody has one.

yep, the updates dont bring all the features, but you don't even need em, it's perfectly fine to continue using an older OS version. It's not like they worked at making the newer OS version smoother, or squished some bugs or something.

the market is not the device, but the content, we are not prepared for that. so even the iphone 5 is just being dumped here.

one simple thing - try it before you slam it.

the phones are overpriced compared to pads in the case that the margins are more, but they are not overpriced compared to other phones, considering the build quality, and most importantly, how long these things last, as this thread shows . More than that, the cost of the device is nothing compared to the cost of the content. So it does not matter if you have the 19k iphone or the 60K iphone, what matters is the apps inside it. It's better to have an iphone 3GS loaded with 60k worth of premium content, rather than an iphone 5 full of freebs and music.


not for a second saying ios is better than android or anything like that, android may be the best thing in the world, but ios does not deserve all this unwarranted hate, or this whole hive of misconceptions that just never seems to go away
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
IPhone 4 - Single core 1 GHz Cortex A8. Powervr SGX535 GPU. Price: 25k
Compare it to something like the Samsung Galaxy S Advance -
Dual core 1GHz Cortex A9. Mali-400 GPU. Price: 13-14k.
I rest my case.

Good.
Which ROM do you use? Whats your next ROM gonna be? What percent of your battery is lost per hour? What score does your phone get in quadrant? Do you overclock/undervolt? Whats your baseband (isnt that what its called?) :rolleyes:

Man. This is pissing me off. These pointless spec wars have to stop. :/
 

moniker

Broken In
Good that you rest your case as your comparison is not only absurd but stupid by all means.
Both are different OSes is the first thing you need to consider.
iOS apps on an iPhone 4 run as smooth and lag free even with single core (as you pointed). Go play the same game on an android of same config.
Comparing internal specs of an iOS device to an android is a stupid comparison.


PS: I would appreciate a like button on this forum.

I'm comparing not only the internal specs, but also the price. Of course if the specs are tied nothing wrong in going for iOS (if you are comfortable with the closed ecosystem, that is), if the price is reasonable. And those are big "ifs".
 

raksrules

Youngling
I still don't understand what is the purpose of benchmarks for android phones. Does having better benchmarks ensure that the phone experience will be lag free ? I guess no.

And yes before anyone says i am a apple fanboy, let me tell you i used to hate apple to the core WITHOUT even using the handset once. Yes like many people i too hated apple without knowing anything about it and not using a iDevice at all. But it all changed 2 years back when i got my wife an iPhone 4 and i really liked using it and i found it to be apt for my use. I too got a 4S one year later.

I'm comparing not only the internal specs, but also the price. Of course if the specs are tied nothing wrong in going for iOS (if you are comfortable with the closed ecosystem, that is), if the price is reasonable. And those are big "ifs".

I only have problem with you comparing the internal specs. Please do not do that as it really does not matter in this case. If it is 2 separate android phones you are comparing internal specs i am fine with it.
Not attacking personally.
But yes anyone who ever goes from android to iOS (if someone does) then he should not try to use iOS as android else he will be royally disappointed.
 

amjath

Human Spambot
Good that you rest your case as your comparison is not only absurd but stupid by all means.
Both are different OSes is the first thing you need to consider.
iOS apps on an iPhone 4 run as smooth and lag free even with single core (as you pointed). Go play the same game on an android of same config.
Comparing internal specs of an iOS device to an android is a stupid comparison.


PS: I would appreciate a like button on this forum.

I recommend windows phone here for lag free

Bringing OS wars to close this thread :D
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
second hand galaxy note, s2, nexus 4 better deals than second hand iphone4?

&& the nexus series is not overpriced ? :D
 

raksrules

Youngling
galaxy note , s2, nexus 4 r bettr deals than iphone 4

in india iphone 4 was thrashed by micromax a110 :p

How about micromax's awesome customer service ?
You may read a thread named "why no micromax" on TE forum to get insights in to this chinese rebranding company.
 
OP
freshseasons

freshseasons

King of my own Castle
Touch Apple within 10 ft pole and already we see sparks fly. Can't we leave the emotional baggage aside and take this rationally ?
Lets call spade a spade here.
Had it been even iphone 4S i would have taken it in spirit. But literally gnawing vying iphone 4 at 26500 Rs through EMI schemes ? Comeon in this game whom are you kidding ?

What if you see Samsung aggressively pushing First Galaxy S on the first Full Page of Leading Newspaper incessantly as if its their premium flagship product only that we know its 2 generations old and not relevant in today's context. Wouldn't your heart sleeve ,"Why now ?".

If a Company advertises its flagship product in a mega way i am willing to understand , but my contention is suddenly when a company starts to advertise their 3 generations old product and in one specify country like its the next great thing happening there, you should accept and acknowledge the fact what the company is doing exactly.

P.S This should not matter but been a iphone user since first iphone to now down the line to iphone 5. I love Apple phones but this is not what i would call sporting.

Debating in this tech forum with all the arsenal of tech knowledge at disposal is easy. But handing mobile 3 generations old for 26500/- Rs to someone who hasn't fair idea of tech scene but takes Apple company on its face value. Ouch !
 
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