Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store updates...

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napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Being rich has nothing to do with evaluating a product. Evaluate a product by what it has to offer compared to what other's is offering.

if ur rich......u'll spend like hell and buy everything that catches ur eye. If you talk about evaluating a product.....yes being rich has got nothing to with it. but buying a product (espicially apple) is got everything to do with being rich.

nope. Same reason why TATA and Ferrari both co-exists in the market.

Well atleast tata does not empty ur pockets just for their repo.

ur example Sucks big time.....because both the companies aim at different customer markets.

it would make some sense if you were comparing ferrari and lamborghini or some company like that.

there is nothing called unbiased pricing. Probably you should read some economics concepts n cases in order to understand what goes behind pricing.

Again man............. making more profits just because their company has more fame than the rest. Its not illegal or something.......some ppl (like u) approve of it too. all i'm saying is that its immoral. But i guess apple ran out of it.

as I said, read :)

Will do master ji !!!!! [sarcasm]
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

amitava ur comparing a ferrari to a nano how dumb can 1 be - a ferrari is a sports car i hope living in the US u know the difference between a sports car and a normal honda

nano=eepc
ferrari=dell xps/aleinware ... wtf are u trying to explain with that stupid comparison of urs :?

@napster nano & ferrari its not a matter of which market they target its a matter of product on offer ;)

@grudgy: though i agree with some points like backlit keyboard i would have loved to have it on my 6516tx; as far as superior hardware is concerned i dont agree with u; my dad has 4 yr old hp notebook and only the mouse pad which was silver has become white in the middle pretty much like sehwag's head
 

amitava82

MMO Addict
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

napster007 said:
ur example Sucks big time.....because both the companies aim at different customer markets.
Do you have any problem in understanding my english? I'm sorry :rolleyes:
Buy, you just said what I've been trying to tell you. I ain't rich but I do not bash Apple just because I can't afford it. [sarcasm]
napster007 said:
Again man............. making more profits just because their company has more fame than the rest.
So, how did Apple get the fame at the first place unless they offer quality product?
napster007 said:
Its not illegal or something.......
No its not... Read Read Read [sarcasm]
napster007 said:
some ppl (like u) approve of it too.
Because I understand business.
napster007 said:
all i'm saying is that its immoral. But i guess apple ran out of it.
In what way its immoral? Charging premium for better quality of product and service? No one is forcing you to buy a Apple product, neither they are monopoly in the market nor you life depends on Apple product. There are 100s of alternative in the market.

Understand this simple logic: Since people are ready to pay extra(premium) for Apple product they are priced at premium. If its over priced people would look for alternative. If everyone had a MacBook Air then whats the point of having one?

got it my dear student? [sarcasm]
 

drgrudge

Another Brick in the Wall
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

iMav said:
@grudgy: though i agree with some points like backlit keyboard i would have loved to have it on my 6516tx; as far as superior hardware is concerned i dont agree with u; my dad has 4 yr old hp notebook and only the mouse pad which was silver has become white in the middle pretty much like sehwag's head
I had Dell Inspiron too. As I've said the keyboard keys are loose, Trackpad is smooth (it should offer little 'friction') and the printing on the key started to fade. All this in just 6-7 months of usage.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

I had Dell Inspiron too. As I've said the keyboard keys are loose, Trackpad is smooth (it should offer little 'friction') and the printing on the key started to fade. All this in just 6-7 months of usage.
well then that doesnt mean that apple's hardware is superior; it only means apple's hardware is superior to dell ;) and thats the reason i prefer hp over dell
 

goobimama

 Macboy
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

I had Dell Inspiron too. As I've said the keyboard keys are loose, Trackpad is smooth (it should offer little 'friction') and the printing on the key started to fade. All this in just 6-7 months of usage.
Oh I know what you've talking about. The smooth feel of Laptop trackpads. I can hardly work with an HP or Dell laptop due to their crappy laptop (which is crammed with utility buttons I might add).

So faraaz is Napsterwhatever. Anyway, Amitwa, this guy is a little slow when it comes to english.

Napster:
The Macbook Air is an ultra portable that's price maybe $100 more than it should have been. It's quite reasonably priced. However, Ultra portables themselves are priced a little high for regular users to buy which you have taken to be Apple = Expensive. It's Ultra portables = Expensive.
 
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drgrudge

Another Brick in the Wall
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

well then that doesnt mean that apple's hardware is superior; it only means apple's hardware is superior to dell ;) and thats the reason i prefer hp over dell
Don't tell me HP is better. See, in our room itself we have 3 lappies. LG, Toshiba and my Dell. All three are 'cheap'. HP is equally bad as the others.

I've seen them all at Gitex, Dubai. Even Alienware. I like Apple only. Atleast their hardware is better than all others. Apple > other brands.
 

napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Do you have any problem in understanding my english? I'm sorry :rolleyes:
Buy, you just said what I've been trying to tell you. I ain't rich but I do not bash Apple just because I can't afford it. [sarcasm]

dude, you cant even write proper english!!!! (see the bolded text above)

what a hypocrite!!!!!!!

So, how did Apple get the fame at the first place unless they offer quality product?

No its not... Read Read Read [sarcasm]

dude if you've read my earlier posts in other threads....u'll come to know that i don't hate their hardware but hate the way they price it.

Read the ninth post from the bottom here *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78338&page=4

so teacher ji.....stop telling me to read and go do a bit of H.W yourself.

Because I understand business.

after so much.................i don't think you understand a fig in this world!!

No one is forcing you to buy a Apple product, neither they are monopoly in the market nor you life depends on Apple product. There are 100s of alternative in the market.

REASON : THEIR MARKETING STRATEGY SUC*S SO BAD



Understand this simple logic: Since people are ready to pay extra(premium) for Apple product they are priced at premium.

Again dude (I'm really sick of telling you this again &again) : Apple has good hardware(i agree) one can pay for its good quality but why the hell should one pay more(EXTRA) for something which is not worth it????? (Leave out the matter that some ppl do.)

If its over priced people would look for alternative. If everyone had a MacBook Air then whats the point of having one?

whats the point of having a "air" now.

(To understand this my under informed teacher, you will have to read all the posts in this thread......especially those of "Imav" & "gx saurav" (3 cheers to them for those fantastic posts)

got it my dear student? [sarcasm]

must be so embarassing.............teacher learning from a student. [sarcasm]
 
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drgrudge

Another Brick in the Wall
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Again dude (I'm really sick of telling you this again &again) : Apple has good hardware(i agree) one can pay for its good quality but why the hell should one pay more(EXTRA) for something which is not worth it????? (Leave out the matter that some ppl do.)
So, it's your opinion that the it's not worth.


(To understand this my under informed teacher, you will have to read all the posts in this thread......especially those of "Imav" & "gx saurav" (3 cheers to them for those fantastic posts)
Yeah, honestly I learn a lot of things from their posts. :rolleyes:

Guys, cool down. I think it's getting little personal and name calling is going on. I'm going to lock this thread if any more of such thing is going to happen.
 

napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

^^ 1.) it's actually worth it if ur pocket allows you to spend on style....and you still have some left to spend for features. for a common man......frankly no.

2.) I'm sorry for that.......but i'm only trying to express whats right.

ps- alteast there are no curses..........i'm so tempted to unleash the beast within me!!
 

infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

ur example Sucks big time.....because both the companies aim at different customer markets.
Exactly, thats crux of this thread! MBA is NOT YOUR DESKTOP REPLACEMENT. Can you say that Nokia N95 is priced at 25k and comes with only 8GB and no optical drive! Well, you can very well say N95 is a mini computer, can't you? You can do almost everything; wifi, gps, music, cam, internet, install apps. So instead of buying N95 you can very well buy a cheap laptop for that price! Rather lets talk about Desktops and Laptops! Why are laptops costly? Miniaturization involves significant costs.

I agree they are priced on the higher side tho as always. But then the high price argument would've been justified if other products from Apple were cheap and only the MBA was costly.
 

napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

^^^^^where The Hell Did Nokia Drop In From!!!!!!!
 

infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Arey yaar, just giving an example of different form factors and related costs.
 

napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

yaar.......mein mar gaya hun re. ab nahi sah sakta. thoda so ke aata hun.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

I agree they are priced on the higher side tho as always. But then the high price argument would've been justified if other products from Apple were cheap and only the MBA was costly.
thats the whole point all products are over priced .... ;)
 
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aryayush

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Amitava mentioned a great point - they are not overpriced but expensive. There's a world of difference between the two words. Whether a product is overpriced or not is an individual perception. Yours will differ from mine and mine will differ from goobimama's. There is no rule of thumb defining what is overpriced and what isn't, and therefore, in essence, there is no such thing as an overpriced product. What may be overpriced for you might not be so for me.

However, Apple products are generally on the expensive side, but then so are Prada's designer clothes, BMW's cars, Parker pens and Lee Cooper jeans. I don't see anyone complaining about them.


@infra_red_dude,
Splendid example! I wish a few more people had logic and common sense enough to understand your post in the way it is meant to be interpreted. :)
 

goobimama

 Macboy
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

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aryayush

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

Yeah, those guys can be funny at times. :lol:

Jobs actually had them bookmarked on the iPhone he demoed at the keynote this year.
 

napster007

Padawan
Re: Apple MWSF 2008 - MacBook Air, iPod touch, iPhone, Apple TV & iTunes Store update

i guess apple lovers will never hate it and all those against will never appreciate it.
 
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