Analyst Says Nokia's MeeGo is "the Biggest Joke In the Tech Industry Right Now"

[pauldmps]

^^ So does the n900 run Meego ?

Latest development :
Microsoft and Nokia to Announce Partnership Next Week > News on Mobile Phones Mobile > Tech2.com India

 

[skeletor]

^^ So does the n900 run Meego ?

yea, you can flash it on N900.

 

[pauldmps]

100% working with all features a phone should have ?

 

[red dragon]

100% working with all features a phone should have ?

Nope,still buggy.

 

[desiibond]

^^ So does the n900 run Meego ?

Latest development :
Microsoft and Nokia to Announce Partnership Next Week > News on Mobile Phones Mobile > Tech2.com India

it runs. it's very slow. it's very buggy. It's useless right now.

 

[Sathish]

Nokia and MS alliances confirmed in New York Times
update: windows phone 7 on nokia devices

 

[hasankamal]

CES Vegas had a dual core tablet running it. Saw it in show called Gadget Guru

 

[pauldmps]

Here is the latest development:

Nokia CEO Stephen Elop rallies troops in brutally honest 'burning platform' memo? (update: it's real!) -- Engadget

New Nokia CEO, Stephen Elop writes a memo to their employees about the wrong decisions they've taken before.

Hello there,

There is a pertinent story about a man who was working on an oil platform in the North Sea. He woke up one night from a loud explosion, which suddenly set his entire oil platform on fire. In mere moments, he was surrounded by flames. Through the smoke and heat, he barely made his way out of the chaos to the platform's edge. When he looked down over the edge, all he could see were the dark, cold, foreboding Atlantic waters.

As the fire approached him, the man had mere seconds to react. He could stand on the platform, and inevitably be consumed by the burning flames. Or, he could plunge 30 meters in to the freezing waters. The man was standing upon a "burning platform," and he needed to make a choice.

He decided to jump. It was unexpected. In ordinary circumstances, the man would never consider plunging into icy waters. But these were not ordinary times - his platform was on fire. The man survived the fall and the waters. After he was rescued, he noted that a "burning platform" caused a radical change in his behaviour.

We too, are standing on a "burning platform," and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour.

Over the past few months, I've shared with you what I've heard from our shareholders, operators, developers, suppliers and from you. Today, I'm going to share what I've learned and what I have come to believe.

I have learned that we are standing on a burning platform.

And, we have more than one explosion - we have multiple points of scorching heat that are fuelling a blazing fire around us.

For example, there is intense heat coming from our competitors, more rapidly than we ever expected. Apple disrupted the market by redefining the smartphone and attracting developers to a closed, but very powerful ecosystem.

In 2008, Apple's market share in the $300+ price range was 25 percent; by 2010 it escalated to 61 percent. They are enjoying a tremendous growth trajectory with a 78 percent earnings growth year over year in Q4 2010. Apple demonstrated that if designed well, consumers would buy a high-priced phone with a great experience and developers would build applications. They changed the game, and today, Apple owns the high-end range.

And then, there is Android. In about two years, Android created a platform that attracts application developers, service providers and hardware manufacturers. Android came in at the high-end, they are now winning the mid-range, and quickly they are going downstream to phones under €100. Google has become a gravitational force, drawing much of the industry's innovation to its core.

Let's not forget about the low-end price range. In 2008, MediaTek supplied complete reference designs for phone chipsets, which enabled manufacturers in the Shenzhen region of China to produce phones at an unbelievable pace. By some accounts, this ecosystem now produces more than one third of the phones sold globally - taking share from us in emerging markets.

While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed big trends, and we lost time. At that time, we thought we were making the right decisions; but, with the benefit of hindsight, we now find ourselves years behind.

The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable.

We have some brilliant sources of innovation inside Nokia, but we are not bringing it to market fast enough. We thought MeeGo would be a platform for winning high-end smartphones. However, at this rate, by the end of 2011, we might have only one MeeGo product in the market.

At the midrange, we have Symbian. It has proven to be non-competitive in leading markets like North America. Additionally, Symbian is proving to be an increasingly difficult environment in which to develop to meet the continuously expanding consumer requirements, leading to slowness in product development and also creating a disadvantage when we seek to take advantage of new hardware platforms. As a result, if we continue like before, we will get further and further behind, while our competitors advance further and further ahead.

At the lower-end price range, Chinese OEMs are cranking out a device much faster than, as one Nokia employee said only partially in jest, "the time that it takes us to polish a PowerPoint presentation." They are fast, they are cheap, and they are challenging us.

And the truly perplexing aspect is that we're not even fighting with the right weapons. We are still too often trying to approach each price range on a device-to-device basis.

The battle of devices has now become a war of ecosystems, where ecosystems include not only the hardware and software of the device, but developers, applications, ecommerce, advertising, search, social applications, location-based services, unified communications and many other things. Our competitors aren't taking our market share with devices; they are taking our market share with an entire ecosystem. This means we're going to have to decide how we either build, catalyse or join an ecosystem.

This is one of the decisions we need to make. In the meantime, we've lost market share, we've lost mind share and we've lost time.

On Tuesday, Standard & Poor's informed that they will put our A long term and A-1 short term ratings on negative credit watch. This is a similar rating action to the one that Moody's took last week. Basically it means that during the next few weeks they will make an analysis of Nokia, and decide on a possible credit rating downgrade. Why are these credit agencies contemplating these changes? Because they are concerned about our competitiveness.

Consumer preference for Nokia declined worldwide. In the UK, our brand preference has slipped to 20 percent, which is 8 percent lower than last year. That means only 1 out of 5 people in the UK prefer Nokia to other brands. It's also down in the other markets, which are traditionally our strongholds: Russia, Germany, Indonesia, UAE, and on and on and on.

How did we get to this point? Why did we fall behind when the world around us evolved?

This is what I have been trying to understand. I believe at least some of it has been due to our attitude inside Nokia. We poured gasoline on our own burning platform. I believe we have lacked accountability and leadership to align and direct the company through these disruptive times. We had a series of misses. We haven't been delivering innovation fast enough. We're not collaborating internally.

Nokia, our platform is burning.

We are working on a path forward -- a path to rebuild our market leadership. When we share the new strategy on February 11, it will be a huge effort to transform our company. But, I believe that together, we can face the challenges ahead of us. Together, we can choose to define our future.

The burning platform, upon which the man found himself, caused the man to shift his behaviour, and take a bold and brave step into an uncertain future. He was able to tell his story. Now, we have a great opportunity to do the same.

Stephen.

 

[gagan007]

thanks a ton pauldmps for sharing this memo from Nokia CEO. It tell us that nothing is inevitable in this world. And as we all know it, it is not hard to reach the top, but to remain on the top.

It is nice to know that Nokia has realized it...because it is not too late..it will never be too late. Nokia turned fortunes of Motorola once which no one could have guessed from a small Finland company. Apple with its innovation changed the whole smaprtphone scenario which was not expected from a Mac/ipod producing company and then Android...needs no introduction.

With innovation, Nokia can still strike...people always want change...a better one. If Nokia or any other company, for that matter, is ready to provide that, people will accept it whole heartedly.

 

[pauldmps]

I always quote the example of Samsung. They too are developing their own OS - Bada. But while they're waiting for the platform to catch up, they're selling Android phones.

Nokia too cloud have temporarily adopted Android & later switched to Meego when it is ready. But they decided to suffer profit drops instead.

Adopting Android now will make Nokia a laughing stock in the tech community so there is no other way than to adopt WP7. Still I believe its too late now.

They should've adopted Android two years ago & ditch it at the end of 2011 when Meego gets ready.

 

[gagan007]

well in business world, being a laughing stock does not matter AFAIK. and if the people at helm in Nokia think that way then they received what they deserve. there could be many reasons behind why they are not adopting Android. whatever happens in those board meetings related to strategy, deals and plans often remain unknown to employees and press.We can just wait and watch...so according to Engadget article, Friday meeting could bring out some news on next steps

 

[lywyre]

Nokia CEO brutally honest: Nokia is a 'burning platform'

We too, are standing on a "burning platform," and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour.

Over the past few months, I've shared with you what I've heard from our shareholders, operators, developers, suppliers and from you. Today, I'm going to share what I've learned and what I have come to believe.

I have learned that we are standing on a burning platform.

Source: Engadget

What could be the plunge that Nokia is taking on Feb 11?

a) Go Win7 - 'cause CEO Stephen Elop is ex-M$ and has contacts with M$
b) better, Go Android - You know why
c) even better: WebOS - Nokia is a good in hardware and WebOS could easily be complimented and vice-versa.

 

[pauldmps]

Re: Nokia CEO brutally honest: Nokia is a 'burning platform'

a) Probably this is going to happen
b) Let’s Remember These Wise Words | Gizmodo Australia
c) Web OS is proprietary Os under the control of HP. So almost impossible.

 

[gagan007]

Re: Nokia CEO brutally honest: Nokia is a 'burning platform'

what's with M$ dude...grow up

BTW pauldmps already posted this in this thread:

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/1331526-post33.html

 

[rosemolr]

Re: Nokia CEO brutally honest: Nokia is a 'burning platform'

I was just wondering what will be the impact to Nokia shares due to this kind of statements by a CEO !!!

 

[lywyre]

Re: Nokia CEO brutally honest: Nokia is a 'burning platform'

what's with M$ dude...grow up

BTW pauldmps already posted this in this thread:

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/1331526-post33.html

Err. My fault. I did search first, but guess not good enough. In which, I guess this thread be closed or be merged with.

 

[skeletor]

Threads merged.

 

[noob]

that Author is not joke....read this

HELSINKI: Nokia has ended development of its first smartphone using its new MeeGo operating system before it was ever launched, two industry sources close to the company said.

A spokesman for Nokia declined to comment. The yet unproven MeeGo software platform, seen as a key weapon in Nokia's battle against Apple and Google in the high end smartphone market, was created early last year from the merger of Nokia and Intel's Linux-based platforms Maemo and Moblin.

Analysts said Nokia could still show the next MeeGo device, even if unfinished, later this week at its investor day in London on Friday or news conference in Barcelona on Sunday.


Read more: Nokia scraps first MeeGo phone - The Times of India Nokia scraps first MeeGo phone - The Times of India

Nokia CEO's letter to employees - The Times of India

 

[pauldmps]

I got the news too. Some insider from Nokia has confirmed that Nokia N9 has been killed.

*www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/nokia-kills-n9-00-its-first-meego-handset/

Let's wait and watch for future developments.

Whoa! What a day it was:

New news is still incoming:

*www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/02-09-11gundotra-1297264611.jpg

Google's Vic Gundotra on Nokia: 'Two turkeys do not make an Eagle' (updated) -- Engadget

 

[gagan007]

that Author is not joke....read this

I'd still wait for a confirmed news from Nokia. I refuse to believe that two large organizations such as Nokia and Intel will merge their separate programs and to start a platform (Meego) only to scrap it later (off course this is only and only about N9 being scraped). Maybe it was a prototype..maybe it was not..there is no proof that those leaked pics belong to N9...it was all just a speculation!