A Conversation between Windows user & FOSS user( MUST READ)

[nileshgr]

@all - which is the best linux distro out there??

after reading so many ppl's posts that they became more knowledgeable after shifting to linux, i want in too.
i mainly use the pc for surfing, downloading, and music.
also will it work on a 800Mhz PIII, with 256MB ram??? (i guess it should)

if you could upgrade your RAM to 384 MB then you can run Fedora smoothly.... The min. req for Fedora is P2, 256 MB RAM.... but i installed Fedora on my bro's box (P4, 256); it doesn't work well; also I am using it on P3, 384.... Fedora rox.

 

[confused]

@the unknown - thanks for the info. i have extra SD ram, will use it.

 

[Faun]

^^If you just want to try for the sake of trying out then please refrain from trying linux. You will be disappointed *s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/75.png

 

[IronManForever]

^^ Extra SD Ram? why the hell have you put it out of your system then?...

Anyways Id recommend you not to use Fedora; I mean compared to Ubuntu, openSUSE; fedora sucks... You can ask any unbiased user that. I mean thats my feeling; As you are a begginer, try MINT(is based on Ubuntu).. Why? Because Ubuntu does not play restricted formats out of the box; and trust me, it can be hell to configure it if you are totally new. Just go out and take the plunge; best of luck!

 

[confused]

^^ Extra SD Ram? why the hell have you put it out of your system then?...

very looong story........ but in short:i had to leave home the day after i bought the extra ram, so didnt have time to plug it in.

Anyways Id recommend you not to use Fedora; I mean compared to Ubuntu, openSUSE; fedora sucks... You can ask any unbiased user that. I mean thats my feeling; As you are a begginer, try MINT(is based on Ubuntu).. Why? Because Ubuntu does not play restricted formats out of the box; and trust me, it can be hell to configure it if you are totally new. Just go out and take the plunge; best of luck!

ok, will keep in mind.

^^If you just want to try for the sake of trying out then please refrain from trying linux. You will be disappointed *s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/75.png

naa, i want to try coz i am interested in hardware/software, so want to learn something new. also 1st year engg is extremely boring. (sirf ratta marna hai) so want to do something fun/timepass too.*s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/35large.png

 

[nileshgr]

^^ Extra SD Ram? why the hell have you put it out of your system then?...

Anyways Id recommend you not to use Fedora; I mean compared to Ubuntu, openSUSE; fedora sucks... You can ask any unbiased user that. I mean thats my feeling; As you are a begginer, try MINT(is based on Ubuntu).. Why? Because Ubuntu does not play restricted formats out of the box; and trust me, it can be hell to configure it if you are totally new. Just go out and take the plunge; best of luck!

I have been using Fedora since it was version 6 and now its version 9.... It has improved a lot... try it once.... many top linux sites say that Fedora 9 has almost come along with Ubuntu with many users using both... No I'm not joking..... 2 of my friends (ubuntu users) themselves asked for Fedora 9 DVD after reading such reviews on the net and now they're addicted to fedora though they do have Ubuntu on their boxes.

 

[krazzy]

The one thing i like about linux is that when we use Command line interface on a laptop at a coffee shop and some geeky text on screen , the person sitting next to us/girlfriend impress much . rather than watching porn/Playing Crysis(or other graphix game ) .. also what i noticed all my noob friends install Windows on their Pc .. that looks hell n00bish ... i remember when i was n--b and i suck at operating systems i was useing windows. all linux users must be firstly useing windows and then use distro (just because they were getting smarter ) . and the one's (geeks)who are still useing windows i bet they will move to linux/unix based kernel sooner or later .

So according to you all Windows users are n00bs while all Linux users are geeks? Ever heard of a guy named Vishal Gupta? I bet he knows more about Windows than more than half the Linux users here know about Linux.

Also not everybody who uses Linux are geeks. Many of them are those people who cannot afford/don't want to spend on Windows and do not want to pirate it. Or they are just tired of using Windows and want to try something else. They are by no means geeks. So stop generalizing.

 

[debsuvra]

So according to you all Windows users are n00bs while all Linux users are geeks? Ever heard of a guy named Vishal Gupta? I bet he knows more about Windows than more than half the Linux users here know about Linux.

Also not everybody who uses Linux are geeks. Many of them are those people who cannot afford/don't want to spend on Windows and do not want to pirate it. Or they are just tired of using Windows and want to try something else. They are by no means geeks. So stop generalizing.

Nicely said. Some people has a weird idea that every person not walking in the path of Windows are Geek. They want to point out that Windows is only for the noobish first timers who just wish to get a taste of PC without digging much into it. But this view also has a plus point for Windows, it really proves that Windows is easy to use. On the other hand, linux users often need to use the terminal. CUI is still the only way to go happy with tux and that makes the linux users geek! It also dictates that Windows users are simply not geek because they do not need to use age-old command line every here and there.

I think that knowing a OS inch by inch does need the Command Line. But it is not vice versa. Someone using the Command line is not always a expert, in other terms a 'Geek'. Linux users need CL because they must, and it is not a sufficient condition to make them 'Geek'.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

some observations:

1. post 2005 hardware can easily run vista ? MY pc was bought in september 2005. see my siggy. what about it ? It was a MAINSTREAM pc at that time. It cost 33k, and was as good as, if not better than average PCs at that time. Vista runs on late 2006 era hardware, and it was released on early 2007. THATS the reason its been called heavy. but windowsxp users at the the xp release time who were using 500mhz processors running windows 98 had to only double the RAM, by adding an extra stick in the spare ram slot to start using XP.

2. I use commandline because its easy. end of story. much easier doing pacman -S firefox than firing up IE to download firefox after going to its website and then clicking download, waiting for download to get over, closing ie, opening the downloaded executable, running it, keying in options in the wizard and then pressing a few buttons, letting install get over and then clicking finish. If the second way is easier for you, then so be it. Use Vista.

 

[Rahim]

The point is not that comman-line is easy but most of the users are used to double-click-->Next steps.
Users must realise that theyhave to get used a new OS SOmething praka123 use to say, "You have to un-learn Windows to get used to Linux" which can only be acheived over time.
@Gautham: How many days did you take to really accpet Linux?? DOnt tell me it was just one day

 

[krazzy]

^^ Praka can be really intelligent sometimes. The rest of the times he is banned.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

The point is not that comman-line is easy but most of the users are used to double-click-->Next steps.

Point noted. Answer: Its not my problem. If a dumb jackass like me can learn it, then so can the great geniuses here. If they can't, well, let them use Ubuntu or Mandriva or SuSE or Mac or Windows.

And if you read my line correctly, Ubuntu, Mandriva and SuSE are supposed to be distros. Meaning: Linux can even be used by point and click users.

Moral of the story: Everyone can +be happy.

Users must realise that theyhave to get used a new OS SOmething praka123 use to say, "You have to un-learn Windows to get used to Linux" which can only be acheived over time.

Those famous words. Still remember them.

@Gautham: How many days did you take to really accpet Linux?? DOnt tell me it was just one day

Accept ? Well, it was curiosity which was my strongest teacher. It brought out the student instincts in me and I learnt on-the-fly while using linux. The trick is to know where to get help. This done, things become rather easy.

^^ Try Linux Mint. better than Ubuntu.

or Arch linux, metalhead says that it is the simplest distro out there.

Linux Mint will hang like sh!t on his system. I can vouch for that.

And its HIGHLY advisable to read up theory and manuals (mainly the wiki) before installing arch. Arch ofcourse, would rock on his system.

^^ Extra SD Ram? why the hell have you put it out of your system then?...

 

[casanova]

Wonderful debate.

I read the whole post and most of the first page.

 

[CadCrazy]

I can easily say that other one in conversation is non other than Manan.
Sorry i haven't signed any NDA

 

[Pat]

I can easily say that other one in conversation is non other than Manan.
Sorry i haven't signed any NDA

I dont think so

 

[kumarmohit]

I think it is Manan only!

 

[Rahim]

Point is it takes time to get used to Linux along with tweaking/breaking/asking tons of questions and most of the new users really dont read Wikis or Manuals.

@Gautham: I agree with you but most dont have the patience as you and me

 

[debsuvra]

I can easily say that other one in conversation is non other than Manan.
Sorry i haven't signed any NDA

I think it is Manan only!

Sorry Sir! You both are wrong. I apologize for spilling the beans here but the other man in the conversion was me. Really. Someone can ask CoolG5 for confirmation.

 

[skeletor]

^^ Yeah, I knew......

I can easily say that other one in conversation is non other than Manan.

So, you think that iMav/Manan is one of those persons who'll very genuinely say, "I support none......neither FOSS, nor MS"....

 

[Faun]

^^lolz