5.1 speakers for Gaming and Movies (Budget 10K)

[powerhoney]

It's just for future reference... Currently my DA 5ks are with me in my teeny weeny hostel room mounted to the walls periliously by some antique nails and tapes!!! Will order those wallmounts when I complete my BTech...
Thanks [MENTION=123683]robotsmani[/MENTION] and [MENTION=120775]GhorMaanas[/MENTION]

 

[GhorMaanas]

welcome! and speakers stuck with tapes?! lol. innovation inspired by paucity.

IMO get those mounts before you pass out. i think they had remained out of stock for a considerable length of time some 2 years or more back, or it was some other product, don't clearly remember. but get them when you have funds, using some coupon or otherwise, and keep them with you for later use. one product of tono systems that i had been tracking since sometime (2-3 years back), but postponing the purchase everytime, it got OOS later, to never be found either online or locally.

but nonetheless, we still have similar products that keep appearing and disappearing on/from the online and offline marketplaces.

 

[Badmash]

Yes. Got the speakers from Ebay for 6.8+k after applying 10% coupons.
[MENTION=132887]Badmash[/MENTION]
Nothing to worry about the BASS. The speaker is doing its great job. The culprit may be the encoding which your movie file contain or the media player which you are using.

After lot of Test even i felt there is no bass from the speaker. The moment i installed the foobar for music and mpc-hc/pot player(Suggested from the other Forum, [MENTION=120775]GhorMaanas[/MENTION] you only, right?), wow the bass value increased. There is a option for audio and can check which encoding is movie contains(AC3, 5.1 DTS, etc).

Currently i am in the process of setting the speakers to the Wall. Ordered some wall mounts which yet to come.

Install the mpc-hc/pot players, if you are not and check the difference.

Hope this helps you...

I use media player classic for movies but bass output is too low on normal mode and for audio i use winamp/wmp and its zero bass. But with Prologic settings is huge like the sub woofer actually turned on. So either its too low or too high. I am not satisfied

 

[GhorMaanas]

[MENTION=132887]Badmash[/MENTION] - try with pot player and xbmc, and for music, foobar. tweak a few setting in those. then let us know.

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BTW, logitech z5500d is for sale for 8k on another forum.

 

[Badmash]

[MENTION=132887]Badmash[/MENTION] - try with pot player and xbmc, and for music, foobar. tweak a few setting in those. then let us know.

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BTW, logitech z5500d is for sale for 8k on another forum.

Ok tried PowerDVD and now bass is better in movies with movies mode on from the remote control. But trebles are not as crisp as it should be especially in music and even in movies the surround effect is not as good as it was in my previous cheap creative inspire .. I dunno whats wrong :/

 

[GhorMaanas]

Ok tried PowerDVD and now bass is better in movies with movies mode on from the remote control. But trebles are not as crisp as it should be especially in music and even in movies the surround effect is not as good as it was in my previous cheap creative inspire .. I dunno whats wrong :/

for movies, treble could be expected to be not as sharp. but keep trying. check with pot player next. also, as i had stated earlier i think, a good DVD/bluray version (with DD5.1 as audio-track) of the movie 'master & commander' would be a good one to check with.

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and yes, how have you placed the speakers?

 

[Badmash]

for movies, treble could be expected to be not as sharp. but keep trying. check with pot player next. also, as i had stated earlier i think, a good DVD/bluray version (with DD5.1 as audio-track) of the movie 'master & commander' would be a good one to check with.

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and yes, how have you placed the speakers?

Hmmm wall mounted .. :/

Also tell me hows z906 performance? Is it better then HTIB under 20K? I think i am going to sell these f&D and go for z906 or HTIB around 20K.

 

[GhorMaanas]

Hmmm wall mounted .. :/

Also tell me hows z906 performance? Is it better then HTIB under 20K? I think i am going to sell these f&D and go for z906 or HTIB around 20K.

wall-mounted, yes, but how in relation to your listening-position was what i had intended to ask.

am suspecting that may be your unit might have a defect, like mentioned here (although the author writes that the unit lacked the capability to 'boost bass', contrary to what you had written).
i was about to suggest a similar thing to you, to sell the f6000 (or even seek a replacement), and get new speakers, but under the 10k category. though if you wish to spend more, and can save up some amount for some period, then better buy an HTiB for more than 20k, preferably between 25-30k. else, either get a new Yamaha YHT-196 for 22-24k from Reliance, or get a better, used HTiB, or even get a good used AVR, a pair of good bookshelves, and then later on add the other speakers as and when you have funds. i suspect that in Z906 again you may find bass lacking, if your bass-requirement is more than usual. i believe Chandigarh would definitely have a store where you could demo an HTiB. just check. listen to some models, and then take a decision, whether to buy one, or to get the Z906 instead. this way, taking a decision would be easier IMO.

 

[Badmash]

Yeah already got a friend who is ready to buy my F&D as they are just 2 weeks old. And i heard really good reviews about Yamaha 196, but only concern is z906 is 500W and Yamaha is only 200W i think. So does that mean lower bass then logitech?? And does pc speakers (z906) got better clarity then HTIB (like yamaha 196) ?? I don't mind waiting a month more, saving, and spending more then 20K (can extend to 26K for yamaha) but only if its alot better then z906 in movies and music too.
Getting used HTIB is not an option here and most of the showrooms here got sony/lg/samsung for audition :/

 

[GhorMaanas]

Yeah already got a friend who is ready to buy my F&D as they are just 2 weeks old. And i heard really good reviews about Yamaha 196, but only concern is z906 is 500W and Yamaha is only 200W i think. So does that mean lower bass then logitech?? And does pc speakers (z906) got better clarity then HTIB (like yamaha 196) ?? I don't mind waiting a month more, saving, and spending more then 20K (can extend to 26K for yamaha) but only if its alot better then z906 in movies and music too.
Getting used HTIB is not an option here and most of the showrooms here got sony/lg/samsung for audition :/

you already have a prospective buyer. that's good. to answer your questions on the SQ of HTiB v/s of Z906, the best way would only be to audition one. check with the local Reliance Digital branch(es). they should almost certainly have a demo-room for more than one HTiBs. apart from YHT-196, Denon 1312XP comes to mind. old, and hence probability to get under 30k. would be better than 196. apart from Reliance, there ought to be other AV stores stocking these HTiBs. i can may be let you know within a day or two. if need be, i say be ready to travel to even Delhi/Gurgaon on some days when free to demo them. lots of places for that in those cities.

 

[Badmash]

you already have a prospective buyer. that's good. to answer your questions on the SQ of HTiB v/s of Z906, the best way would only be to audition one. check with the local Reliance Digital branch(es). they should almost certainly have a demo-room for more than one HTiBs. apart from YHT-196, Denon 1312XP comes to mind. old, and hence probability to get under 30k. would be better than 196. apart from Reliance, there ought to be other AV stores stocking these HTiBs. i can may be let you know within a day or two. if need be, i say be ready to travel to even Delhi/Gurgaon on some days when free to demo them. lots of places for that in those cities.

Hmmm cuz of job its not possible to leave the town, btw i auditioned a pioneer vsx 329 today as according the guy at the store said its the cheapest HTIB they have and all other yamaha/denon are above 60K and this pioneer was 40K, again out of budget. And when i asked about yamaha 196 and denon 1312xp his reply was "its not even home theater, its simple speakers like pc speakers one" Is it true? :O Now will try to visit reliance digital in few days as its the only place here where i think i can audition yamaha/denon.
Another thing, according to hifivision forums people say its better to get yht 299 then 196 as its really old model, so how much quality difference is between these as its like 10K difference between two.

 

[GhorMaanas]

Hmmm cuz of job its not possible to leave the town, btw i auditioned a pioneer vsx 329 today as according the guy at the store said its the cheapest HTIB they have and all other yamaha/denon are above 60K and this pioneer was 40K, again out of budget. And when i asked about yamaha 196 and denon 1312xp his reply was "its not even home theater, its simple speakers like pc speakers one" Is it true? :O Now will try to visit reliance digital in few days as its the only place here where i think i can audition yamaha/denon.
Another thing, according to hifivision forums people say its better to get yht 299 then 196 as its really old model, so how much quality difference is between these as its like 10K difference between two.

what's the name of the store? he had some truth in his statement, but not entirely correct, given the subjectivity of one's liking for sound. HTiB manufacturers, particularly for the segment under 30k, compromise a bit with the speakers (plastic-housing, semi-wood housing). hence an AVR + separate speakers is the better way, though costlier. since most desktop speakers too are like that, one generally finds a better sound-reproduction from even such HTiBs than the desktop speakers, on account of the AVR.

yes, visit RD. YHT-196 is a basic HTiB, but still better than most desktop 5.1s. YHT-299 and YHT-296 are better ones, but esp. the latter is tough to source now. and yes, the latter would cost upwards of 30k. other options are onkyo hts-3400/3500. these could be had for under 28k i suppose. onkyo fare good in movies and less in music, while yamaha and denon are good for music too. also, denon has an active sub (so you could change sub/spkrs later on). also, i would recommend to keep buying a used one too as an option. you may get a good one, at lesser costs, which otherwise would've been out of your budget. HFV members generally keep their AV devices well-maintained, and there are many in there from Chandigarh. even if you don't want to buy from a member there, if you request, am sure people there would invite you to their places to audition their equipment and assist you in arriving at a decision.

P.S. - if you're there on TE, one of the mods there, vyral_143, he has recently purchased the 196. you could have a chat with him, though i think he's now abroad since some time, but should return soon.

P.S.1 - check at Hypercity too, if you have it there.

P.S.2 - contact gurujee. he's a member here too, but not active much. contact him at HFV. he has Z906, and has most probably demoed some HTiBs too. he should be able to suggest better.

 

[Badmash]

[MENTION=120775]GhorMaanas[/MENTION], you have been really really helpful to me tbh, thank you very much.

1. I visited reliance digital today, they have nothing there just sony, samsung, philips thing. **dissapointment**
2. Visited yamaha india site and got the authorize dealer in chandigarh address, visited him today. Asked for yamaha yht 196 or yht 299, but neither available as according to him its 4-5 year old and its not manufactured anymore. Only 2 models available, yamaha yht 1810 @33K and 2910 @47K. Took the demo of 1810 and it was good but not too good as trebles and bass felt lower side. Then they suggested me a combo of yamaha 2067 avr and JBL 200.5 speakers (yes they have jbl stuff too) @47K and gave its demo. And well the quality difference was noticeable better, much more clear and bass then yamaha 1810.
So now it seems like the sound quality i am looking for would cost me above 40K, and if i am going above 40K is this setup worth or anything else better than this in the same range? (For movies and music too)

 

[GhorMaanas]

my pleasure!

1. sigh....

2. that's sad. am sure you would get them at Delhi, but since you won't be able to go there, perhaps an RD branch from there could ship it to you at your address...would be better if any acquaintance of yours from Delhi could pay a visit to an RD branch for the same purpose. but since you didn't find 1810 upto the mark, i doubt if you would like 196 and similar ones.
JBL speakers are good too. check this thread for instance. must have cheaper and good variants too. if you are willing to spend more than 30-40k, then i would seriously suggest you to register yourself at hifivision, scour through the available info there, and create a thread to invite suggestions. apart from that, you may have to do considerable hunting for info on and off the net.

3. but before all this, do have a chat with 'gurujee'.

4. some other systems worth looking at are Energy Take Classic 5.1, Boston Acoustics Soundware XS 5.1, Pioneer Andrew Jones FS52 / BS52 (these are highly acclaimed speakers, for music as well as movies! surprisingly good for their price. i was contemplating buying their floorstanders when they had been introduced here; there was some attractive offer on them at that time, but then i got my existing floorstanders revamped), etc. all these and many more systems are ownded by folks over at HFV. read through the relevant section(s) there as per your convenience. though with these above-mentioned speakers, you would require an AVR, but getting one shouldn't be a problem. if i had to buy, i would've first looked for a good, used AVR.

as you increase your budget, so would the increase the array of options. in such a case, it would become imperative to seek opinions and suggestions from many more people, owners of/witness to a wide variety of systems, and HFV would be the best platform among Indian web-forums for that purpose.

 

[Badmash]

my pleasure!

1. sigh....

2. that's sad. am sure you would get them at Delhi, but since you won't be able to go there, perhaps an RD branch from there could ship it to you at your address...would be better if any acquaintance of yours from Delhi could pay a visit to an RD branch for the same purpose. but since you didn't find 1810 upto the mark, i doubt if you would like 196 and similar ones.
JBL speakers are good too. check this thread for instance. must have cheaper and good variants too. if you are willing to spend more than 30-40k, then i would seriously suggest you to register yourself at hifivision, scour through the available info there, and create a thread to invite suggestions. apart from that, you may have to do considerable hunting for info on and off the net.

3. but before all this, do have a chat with 'gurujee'.

4. some other systems worth looking at are Energy Take Classic 5.1, Boston Acoustics Soundware XS 5.1, Pioneer Andrew Jones FS52 / BS52 (these are highly acclaimed speakers, for music as well as movies! surprisingly good for their price. i was contemplating buying their floorstanders when they had been introduced here; there was some attractive offer on them at that time, but then i got my existing floorstanders revamped), etc. all these and many more systems are ownded by folks over at HFV. read through the relevant section(s) there as per your convenience. though with these above-mentioned speakers, you would require an AVR, but getting one shouldn't be a problem. if i had to buy, i would've first looked for a good, used AVR.

as you increase your budget, so would the increase the array of options. in such a case, it would become imperative to seek opinions and suggestions from many more people, owners of/witness to a wide variety of systems, and HFV would be the best platform among Indian web-forums for that purpose.

Yeah already created a thread there, lets hope i get what i am looking for but just curious is Boston Acoustics Soundware XS 5.1 better then JBL Cinema 300 5.1?

 

[GhorMaanas]

tough question!
let's wait for the responses.

 

[Badmash]

Hmmm i am not getting any response on hifivision

 

[GhorMaanas]

dont wait for only responses. some may come, some may not, some may come late (as you would've seen, the HT section is so full of threads). you just read as many threads as you can there. as you get time, demo systems wherever you can. this last thing will be of utmost importance!

 

[Badmash]

Hmmm yeah reading forums as much as possible, but most of them are of 2012/2013, not many of 2014/2015. So most of the things recommended in other forums are discontinued now. But still trying as i don't want to hurry up and regret later. And in Chandigarh, i am only able to find yamaha and JBL so far and 1 pioneer one but not sure about the service and warranty of pioneer and denon. Seeing yamaha and JBL have a service center here in chandigarh i might go for that only (Yamaha HRT 2067 with JBL cinema 300) or Denon X500 with JBL cinema 300. No other speakers are better than this in 30K range and i have no idea about AVRs. Damn its all confusing :/

 

[GhorMaanas]

Hmmm yeah reading forums as much as possible, but most of them are of 2012/2013, not many of 2014/2015. So most of the things recommended in other forums are discontinued now. But still trying as i don't want to hurry up and regret later. And in Chandigarh, i am only able to find yamaha and JBL so far and 1 pioneer one but not sure about the service and warranty of pioneer and denon. Seeing yamaha and JBL have a service center here in chandigarh i might go for that only (Yamaha HRT 2067 with JBL cinema 300) or Denon X500 with JBL cinema 300. No other speakers are better than this in 30K range and i have no idea about AVRs. Damn its all confusing :/

JBL Cinema does indeed seem to be a very good set of speakers! for instance, do read through these 2 threads:

JBL cinema 300 + Denon 1312

Alternatives to JBL Cinema 300

plus, this one i had already shared it with you earlier. if you missed it, can read:

Explosion all over the place : Harman/Kardon avr 70 + JBL Cinema 300

if you can alter the title of your thread on HFV, change it to something like (HT needed, an AVR with separate speakers-set, budget 40-50k). could attract more replies. plus, more replies should follow from tomorrow, ie, on weekdays.

also, you may check at these stores too:

Simphony

SCO 43/44 1st floor sector 8c
Chandigarh
0172 465 6334

and

Home Automation | Home Theatres | Security | Golf Simulators - Galaxy Hi Fi Mohali, Punjab (they may help you locate or suggest an HT-store)

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also, another thing. after you're done with hunting, and still are confused or undecided, best would be to simply follow your ears! compare all the speakers you've auditioned (make notes), and select the ones you found best. for now, they are JBL C 300 and the 2067 yamaha AVR. compare the upcoming ones with these. if they still sound better than the others, its a no-brainer then!