20k Budget - One Final Thought !

[uppalpankaj]

So here is a head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902:
1. Display Size - N82 - 2.4'', C902 - 2''
N82 wins as bigger display is always better
2. Display resolution – N82 – 16 M , C902 – 262K
N82 wins again…
3. Weight – N82 – 114 g, C902 – 107 g (Minor issue and can b negated)
4. Phonebook – N82-unlimited entries, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins as u can store unlimited entries…
5. Call records – N82 – 30 days, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins
6. Memory – N82 – 100 MB (Internal) + 128 MB (SDRAM) = 228 MB (Total),
C902 – 160 MB
N82 has more memory so it is better..

7. GPRS – N82 – Class 32 (107 kbps), C902 - Class 10( 32 - 48 kbps )
So, GPRS connectivity is better in N82 has it has more speed.
8. EDGE – N82 - Class 32, 296 kbps, C902 - Class 10, 236.8 kbps
So, EDGE Connectivity is faster in N82..


Extras in N82 as compared to C902
1. Symbian OS in N82..So more apps are available for N82.
2. N82 has Wifi which C902 lacks.
3. N82 has TV Out feature which C902 doesn’t have.
4. N82 has GPS which is absent in C902.
5. N82’ s cam has a xenon flash with a carl zeiss optics..So, It is better than C902…(I
really can’t figure out why SE left the Xenon flash in C902. They had given it in
K810i but then why it was not included in C902)
6. N82 has Motion sensor with UI auto rotate which is not present in C902.
7. N82 has office document viewer – so u can view ur docs after loading them in N82
which is not possible in the case of C902.
8. N82 has 3.5 mm audio output jack, so u can plug in any headphones which is not
possible in the case of C902.
9. N82 – It has ARM 11 332 MHz processor...It is really fast...

Extras in C902 as compared to N82.
There r not many and I found these:
1. Thickness – C902 – 10.5 mm, N82 – 17.3 MM
2. C902 has 8 illuminated camera touch keys which N82 lacks…


But, looking at the above comparison the pros of N82 r definitely more than the pros of C902…So, I think N82 is definitely better.

For confirmation see the following link:
*forums.se-nse.net/lofiversion/index.php/t29587.html
where SE users are really giving negative feedback about their buying decisions.


SE has got it all wrong in this 5 MP category with K850i and C902. They have failed miserably...

 

[dreamcatcher]

^^^^^ROFLMAO

thats the only thing that comes to my mind...

okay..u need to be taught some things..

ROM=Read Only Memory
RAM=Random Access Memory

according to u..n82 has 110 mb Rom and 128 mb RAM..so add the two up?? LOLZZZZZZZ


who told you c902 doesnt have tv-out and motion sensor??are you out of your brains??

The c902 has photoflash whcih SE claim to be at par with Xenon Flash..let the retail version come out you will get the idea...dont post noobish comments on this without knowing anything..

display resolution-DUDE..RESOLUTION AND NUMBER OF COLORS ARE TOTALLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE..i had told you earlier..both have a resolution of 320x240..and SEs displays are million times better than that of nokias..check out any mobile site you want..

screen size is less due to the presencse of the 8 touch keys...

phonebook-c902 has 30 entries..LOL..

call records-yea n82 beat the c902 in that..

symbian-noone complained about symbian..we know its a symbian phone..
wifi and gps-you have adapters costing as low as 1.5k to provide for gps and wifi activities...and much more powerful than that inbuilt..

c902 will come with an adapter obviosuly and n82 comes with a some roadside crap headphones..


the c902 has support for 3d games which the n82 doesnt.

the c902 comes preloaded with EA games coz SE has an exclusive contract with EA...

C902 has FACE DETECTION...

has trackid..

has playnow-arena with more than 5 million songs..

is the slimmest and the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth at the moment...


@uppal-do your research when you are commenting on an SE phone with me in the forum..

 

[yogi7272]

n82 has support for 3d games ..it has dedicated graphics accelerator ..go check "global race" on n82 , n95 8gb .. n82 bundled earphones are good .. definetely better than roadside earphones .. what is a use of facedetection when it cant produces better image than the competition .. and that photoflash is no way better than xenon flash of n82 ..

and those additional wifi and gps modules will work on bluetooth which will drain ur battery much faster than integrated one ..not to mention u need to carry one more additional device with u ..

and slimmest phone means its optics will be crappiest ..hee hee ..and yes, if its not on par with n82 , then it must be because of beta firmware .. we will wait for stable one for few more months ..

 

[dreamcatcher]

^^^wifi modules will work on bluetooth..???who gave you that idea??

yea..i know..nokia headphones are awesum..lolzz..

slimmer phone means crappy optics?? hehe....i guess you have not come in terms with the level of innovation yet...

 

[yogi7272]

i never said awesome .. but better than roadside earphones as u mentioned .. maybe those wifi modules work with fastport or something ... but who gives a damn ..

 

[dreamcatcher]

maybe you dont..doesnt mean someone else wont.. lolzz..

 

[skeletor]

and that photoflash is no way better than xenon flash of n82

Yeah, I agree its not better than Xenon, but quite comparable to Xenon and will not be a battery sucker like Xenon....

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So here is a head 2 head comparison of N82 with C902:
1. Display Size - N82 - 2.4'', C902 - 2''
N82 wins as bigger display is always better
2. Display resolution – N82 – 16 M , C902 – 262K
N82 wins again…
3. Weight – N82 – 114 g, C902 – 107 g (Minor issue and can b negated)
4. Phonebook – N82-unlimited entries, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins as u can store unlimited entries…
5. Call records – N82 – 30 days, C902 – 30 entries
N82 wins
6. Memory – N82 – 100 MB (Internal) + 128 MB (SDRAM) = 228 MB (Total),
C902 – 160 MB
N82 has more memory so it is better..

7. GPRS – N82 – Class 32 (107 kbps), C902 - Class 10( 32 - 48 kbps )
So, GPRS connectivity is better in N82 has it has more speed.
8. EDGE – N82 - Class 32, 296 kbps, C902 - Class 10, 236.8 kbps
So, EDGE Connectivity is faster in N82..

1. Lol...Bigger display isn't always better
2. Those are colours and you can't really differentiate between the colours on such a small screen. Resolution is Pixel by Pixel and both have the same resolution i.e. 240*320 pixels...
3. C902 has less weight + a great form factor....It doesn't look a brick
4. Phonebook.....both have unlimited entries [Limited to memory]
5. Here N82 wins
6. Intenral memory and RAM are compltely different things......I guess you probably don't store your documents on your computer's RAM. C902 has 160MB internal memory and it wins here.
7,8. In India it doesn't make any difference. You can't even expect to get 237kbps on EDGE here in India.......

Extras in N82 as compared to C902
1. Symbian OS in N82..So more apps are available for N82.
2. N82 has Wifi which C902 lacks.
3. N82 has TV Out feature which C902 doesn’t have.
4. N82 has GPS which is absent in C902.
5. N82’ s cam has a xenon flash with a carl zeiss optics..So, It is better than C902…(I
really can’t figure out why SE left the Xenon flash in C902. They had given it in
K810i but then why it was not included in C902)
6. N82 has Motion sensor with UI auto rotate which is not present in C902.
7. N82 has office document viewer – so u can view ur docs after loading them in N82
which is not possible in the case of C902.
8. N82 has 3.5 mm audio output jack, so u can plug in any headphones which is not
possible in the case of C902.
9. N82 – It has ARM 11 332 MHz processor...It is really fast...

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. C902 has TV-out.......
4. N82s GPS is slow BTW....anyways, C902 doesn't have GPS.
5. Photoflash of C902 isn't a battery sucker like Xenon and its performance is quite comparable.
6. C902 also has it.
7. This is same as 1.......It has Symbian.
8. Agreed.
9. And Symbian makes it equally slow.....

So, only +ve of N82 are: Symbian, Wi-fi, GPS, 3.5mm jack

Extras in C902 as compared to N82.
There r not many and I found these:
1. Thickness – C902 – 10.5 mm, N82 – 17.3 MM
2. C902 has 8 illuminated camera touch keys which N82 lacks…

3. More internal memory.
4. Fast and responsive UI.....
5. Better battery......
6. Better keypad
7. Its definitely going to play better music than N82.....Track ID, Mega Bass, PlayNow are its additional musical features.....
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Well krates, also look at the comments by some guy named John on that page......He is really happy with his G900 and is saying that it is faster than those S60 bricks....

 

[yogi7272]

n82 gps is very fast and reliable .. using it for the last 5 months .. photoflash of c902 would be better than standard led flash ..but comparable to xenon flash ..nope .. anyways ,xenon flash of n82 is far superiour to any phone with xenon flash ..

also what is the use of those shortcut keys when its camera performance is well below that of competition .. se must release a camera phone which should be way ahead of competition .. a worthy successor to k750i & k790i is what me too waiting ..

hey, i am not nokia fanboy, but u can call me a n82 fanboy though ..

 

[skeletor]

n82 gps is very fast and reliable .. using it for the last 5 months .. photoflash of c902 would be better than standard led flash ..but comparable to xenon flash ..nope .. anyways ,xenon flash of n82 is far superiour to any phone with xenon flash ..

It may not be as good as a Xenon flash, but its equivalent to 3 LED flashes.....C902 is under development and GSMArena guys are pleased with the performance of C902's photoflash. Performance is definitely going to increase in the final product. Actually Photoflash is a good low power alternative to Xenon flash......

also what is the use of those shortcut keys when its camera performance is well below that of competition .. se must release a camera phone which should be way ahead of competition .. a worthy successor to k750i & k790i is what me too waiting ..

It isn't launched yet......And I'm also hoping that it kicks the a$$ of N82.......SE should take complete time before launching C902.....

 

[iatb.gourav]

It isn't launched yet......And I'm also hoping that it kicks the a$$ of N82.......SE should take complete time before launching C902.....

Me too.

Any idea when c902 will be available in the market?

 

[uppalpankaj]

^^^^^ROFLMAO

thats the only thing that comes to my mind...

okay..u need to be taught some things..

ROM=Read Only Memory
RAM=Random Access Memory

according to u..n82 has 110 mb Rom and 128 mb RAM..so add the two up?? LOLZZZZZZZ


who told you c902 doesnt have tv-out and motion sensor??are you out of your brains??

The c902 has photoflash whcih SE claim to be at par with Xenon Flash..let the retail version come out you will get the idea...dont post noobish comments on this without knowing anything..

display resolution-DUDE..RESOLUTION AND NUMBER OF COLORS ARE TOTALLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE..i had told you earlier..both have a resolution of 320x240..and SEs displays are million times better than that of nokias..check out any mobile site you want..

screen size is less due to the presencse of the 8 touch keys...

phonebook-c902 has 30 entries..LOL..

call records-yea n82 beat the c902 in that..

symbian-noone complained about symbian..we know its a symbian phone..
wifi and gps-you have adapters costing as low as 1.5k to provide for gps and wifi activities...and much more powerful than that inbuilt..

c902 will come with an adapter obviosuly and n82 comes with a some roadside crap headphones..


the c902 has support for 3d games which the n82 doesnt.

the c902 comes preloaded with EA games coz SE has an exclusive contract with EA...

C902 has FACE DETECTION...

has trackid..

has playnow-arena with more than 5 million songs..

is the slimmest and the sexiest 5 mp phone on planet earth at the moment...


@uppal-do your research when you are commenting on an SE phone with me in the forum..

Its no use arguing with u....When all the phone users around the globe r really disappointed with the phones that SE is making in the 5 MP category, u seem 2 be raving abt them...

Let me take ur post one by one:
1. I know the difference between ROM and RAM...Read my post carefully....I compared memory and not ROM/RAM and this is why I added the two together...I did not say Internal memory...N82 has more memory (RAM + ROM added together)...More RAM means that N82 will b faster in opening applns. and processing..

2. The C902 does not have a Xenon flash which is more powerful than photoflash..What is the use of it when the camera does not perform upto expectations? ( I really wanted SE to include the Xenon flash in C902)

3. Display Colours do matter as it is the no. of colours that can b produced...I bought the K750i but when my bro got the Nokia 6300, I was amazed 2 see its display...There was lot of punch in the display and colours looked more vibrant on 6300 as compared 2 my K750i...(My K750i is the best otherwise)

4. Display Size - Don't tell me that this does not matter...If the display is bigger, it give a better experience of net surfing...N82 has 2.4'' whereas C902 only 2''

5. Yes the C902 phonebook can store only 1000 x 20 fields [Actually I mistyped by saying 30 entries- (This was call records)].. The N82 can store unlimited entries in its phonebook..N82 scores...

6. Call records C902 - 30, N82 - 30 days....Can you actually come 2 know who called u 30 days back from C902...With N82 u can come 2 know on the 30th day also..This can only b possible with C902 if u make only one call/day which is not possible.

7. N82 has symbian, wifi, gps, 3.5 mm jack, Office Document Viewer- These r not there in C902...
8. C902 has face detection - What is the use of this when u cannot click better photos?
9. The Track Id and Play Now r paid and useless features in C902..Who is gonna pay 4 them to use them???
10. N82 - Carl Zeiss Optics and Xenon flash...
11. India is progressing and 3G will b launched by nexr yr. Then the 3G speeds will matter...

Overall N82 is a better package....Rest time will tell when C902 is launched...Just do a search on google and u will come 2 know which is better coz SE users r really disappointed...

Anyways...As I said no use arguing...V will once again discuss when C902 is launched and then will take this discussion 2 a higher level....

 

[krates]

dude check out negative comments are more than positive

and drop a touch screen phone 2-3 times touch screen gone screen left

and this is the fastest symbian phone who is saying that it is slow

and why forgot the exceptional browser


light gone let it come i will post more

 

[krazzy]

Well there is no doubt that the camera performance of SE phones is dropping after the K800i/K770i. The 5mp phones are nothing special and definitely not upto expectations, which were raised by the previous SE phones. Except for a few adamant SE fans, most people are disappointed by the performance of these new phones. K850i turned out to be a major disappointment, no matter how much SE fans would disagree. Leave alone creating new benchmarks, it couldn't even reach the ones created by its predecessors.

On the other hand is Nokia which is making up for ground which it lost to previous SE phones. Its current range of 5mp phones are ruling the roost. A couple more 5mp phones are planned to release in the next few months, which if not better, will atleast have the existing quality standard. So they are definitely on the rise.

A lot now depends upon the C902 and G900. If they fail to deliver, people are definitely going to be very disappointed and SE will lose a major chunk of the pie, that is the 5mp phones market. Not to mention the loss of respect in the eyes of camera phone buyers.

 

[iatb.gourav]

^^^ +1 !!!

 

[skeletor]

Here is an example of G900s Touch Focus: *www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/se-g900-preview/camera/gsmarena_f001.jpg

I think its camera is OKAY....

 

[krates]

^^^ ya it's camera is ok

but not exceptional

 

[skeletor]

^^^ ya it's camera is ok

but not exceptional

Dude, G900 isn't being made as a CAMERA phone......It has been made as a Touch-screen Smartphone - a purpose which it serves rightly.....though it is offering Touch Focus, which no other camera phone - even your favourite Nokia N82 can't offer -- Focus where you want to focus by just touching the screen. Isn't it good??

And please don't get me into Fanboy war by posting sarcasting laughs like you currently did.....

 

[dreamcatcher]

@uppal..do you know the amount of RAM the c902 has??if you dont then how can you compare both of them??

I dunno elsewhere but atleast in kol..the k850 is selling like hot cakes..the cybershot brand is enough to sway most consumers...

and newaz...let the c902 release..we will resurface the topic then...

and SE's is now more intent on the mid range market with its portfolio filled to the brim with low/mid end products...they are trying to create a base...but knowing SE they are bouncing back with the likes of the c902 and new firmwares for the k850...

the k850 will reportedly have face detection too with a latter firmware...

 

[krates]

Dude, G900 isn't being made as a CAMERA phone......It has been made as a Touch-screen Smartphone - a purpose which it serves rightly.....though it is offering Touch Focus, which no other camera phone - even your favourite Nokia N82 can't offer -- Focus where you want to focus by just touching the screen. Isn't it good??

what will you do with the touch focus when the camera does not have quality only

btw it has got a good touch screen

 

[krazzy]

K850i is selling slow here. The shop where I get the mobile prices from has now started selling K850i without bill for 16k. This tactic is usually deployed when the handsets are selling slow and there is a hope that the lower pricetag might attract customers. Popular models like N82 are not sold without bill.