Alliance Broadband: Some queries?

whitestar_999

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modem is only needed if the broadband connection to your home is through a phone line & in India you only need modem for bsnl/mtnl/airtel(reliance uses a different type of adsl so no modem needed) since these are the only companies in India licensed to provide landline phone services.btw now-a-days every company use optical fiber at their main centre for net connectivity & this difference of adsl/cable exists only in the way of connecting homes to their main centre.even bsnl can provide broadband through lan wire but then it has to spend a huge amount laying lan cables underground all over the place which it won't do since it can provide broadband through its already existing copper phone line network.
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

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^^THANK YOU VERY MUCH FRIEND:goodjob::toast:,whitestar.
The theory and concepts are clear to me now.
THANKS ONCE AGAIN.

So my TP-Link WR740N 150Mbps wireless router, is O.K. enough to be connected with the Alliance Broadband Newtwork?

In that case the D-Link DSL 2520U adsl2+ modem/router has to be packed up and kept inside the cupboard...as likely :zzz:
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

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^^Friend, I AM STILL WITH BSNL 950ULD plan(whatever fu***n* their service be).

But options are also open to switch to ---> Alliance Broadband in case of more deteriorating service by BSNL.Actually wanted to see some more reviews/feedback about Alliance Broadband from our numerous TDF Friends,those of whom are using it,and then take the decision as the case may be.
 

kaly422000

Right off the assembly line
^^Friend, I AM STILL WITH BSNL 950ULD plan(whatever fu***n* their service be).

But options are also open to switch to ---> Alliance Broadband in case of more deteriorating service by BSNL.Actually wanted to see some more reviews/feedback about Alliance Broadband from our numerous TDF Friends,those of whom are using it,and then take the decision as the case may be.

yes absolutely ,u need to shift from bsnl. bsnl increased price without notice and at the same time deteorating their service. u have to go main exchange(no customer care) for atleast 20 out of 30 days for lodging complaint and u dont have any answer when ur problem will be solved.trade union is a primery job of bsnl people. get rid of them and dont hesitate
 

Ray

Precision Processor
I am Alliance broadband user and here is to all your queries:
1.Your TP-Link WR740N will work with alliance
2.They provide a RJ-45 cable
3.They will register the mac address of the
lan port(not wifi mac address) of any one computer and officially you can only use intenet on that computer by physically keeping the rj-45 cable attached to the computer
4.if you are clever you can just spoof the mac address of lan port of the computer in your router and you can enjoy wifi
5.say you are using 2 laptops and one desktop with the connection.all three are off at first and you turn on one laptop at first.then you will be taken to login page and you have to login.but when you will turn on 2nd laptop and desktop u will see that u dont have to login for net as you have already login using the first laptop.you will be logged out
only if you turn off all the 3 computers hence there will be no active device and u will be logged out.
6.
alliance is reliable and u can change bsnl
7.i recommend the premium packae which I have.1mbps during day and 4mbps during night.35mbps peering
8.Regarding the peering....alliance broadband has its own server where it stores torrents downloaded by user.say your neighbour has alliance broadband and is downloading cod:mw.the cod:mw will uploaded from his computer to alliance server through utorrent.and when the torrent is in their server u can download it at 35mbps.only those torrents that are in their server
or those that have local peers(other alliance user seeding) will be downloaded at 35mbps.if the torrents is not in their server and does not have local peers it will be downloaded at 1mbps or 4mbps depending if day or night.not all torrent is downloaded at 35mbps.
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
I am Alliance broadband user and here is to all your queries:
1.Your TP-Link WR740N will work with alliance
2.They provide a RJ-45 cable
3.They will register the mac address of the
lan port(not wifi mac address) of any one computer and officially you can only use intenet on that computer by physically keeping the rj-45 cable attached to the computer
4.if you are clever you can just spoof the mac address of lan port of the computer in your router and you can enjoy wifi
5.say you are using 2 laptops and one desktop with the connection.all three are off at first and you turn on one laptop at first.then you will be taken to login page and you have to login.but when you will turn on 2nd laptop and desktop u will see that u dont have to login for net as you have already login using the first laptop.you will be logged out
only if you turn off all the 3 computers hence there will be no active device and u will be logged out.
6.
alliance is reliable and u can change bsnl
7.i recommend the premium packae which I have.1mbps during day and 4mbps during night.35mbps peering
8.Regarding the peering....alliance broadband has its own server where it stores torrents downloaded by user.say your neighbour has alliance broadband and is downloading cod:mw.the cod:mw will uploaded from his computer to alliance server through utorrent.and when the torrent is in their server u can download it at 35mbps.only those torrents that are in their server
or those that have local peers(other alliance user seeding) will be downloaded at 35mbps.if the torrents is not in their server and does not have local peers it will be downloaded at 1mbps or 4mbps depending if day or night.not all torrent is downloaded at 35mbps.

Thanks,Friend for my query.

Still the feedback( -ve) I got from my neighbours and users of my area/community is about the SECURITY aspect.

They say that Alliance or any other ISP providing network through Cable(RJ-45) is full of viruses...blah..blah...blah.

Even the question of Hacking into one's network or PC is discussed.

Some advised to stay on with BSNL even if their service are under fire now.According to them,in the very near future BSNL will increase bandwidth or provide extra facilities to existing(as well as new)customers as per orders of TRAI and Govt. of India recommendations.

Any more views?
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

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^^whitestar, I mainly run under Linux OS.

The NAT/firewall is enabled in D-Link DSL-2520U adsl2+ modem/router.

In the TP-Link TL-WR740N 150Mbps Wireless N Router , the QSS is disabled as advised by you. The WPA/WPA2-(AES encrypton) password is a strongly encrypted one which is more than 20 characters(letters+symbols+numbers)according to my choice.

Is the security build O.K. for any network or ISP???
 

Ray

Precision Processor
Thanks,Friend for my query.

Still the feedback( -ve) I got from my neighbours and users of my area/community is about the SECURITY aspect.

They say that Alliance or any other ISP providing network through Cable(RJ-45) is full of viruses...blah..blah...blah.

Even the question of Hacking into one's network or PC is discussed.

Some advised to stay on with BSNL even if their service are under fire now.According to them,in the very near future BSNL will increase bandwidth or provide extra facilities to existing(as well as new)customers as per orders of TRAI and Govt. of India recommendations.

Any more views?

If I were you I would not listen to what neighbours and users say because trust me most people are ignorant about computes and networks and they just say those things bcause of their lack of knowledge.Next time someone tells you that ISP with rj-45 cable gives viruses ask them to explain how data transfer through rj-45 cable works and that will shut them up.dont get swayed by other peoples opinions.form your own opinions based on facts.use the internet to se if this allegations are true.
i had no problems with viruses or security till now.as for reliablity,maybe 3-4 times a month their network is down for a few hours but otherwise it is OK
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
If I were you I would not listen to what neighbours and users say because trust me most people are ignorant about computes and networks and they just say those things bcause of their lack of knowledge.Next time someone tells you that ISP with rj-45 cable gives viruses ask them to explain how data transfer through rj-45 cable works and that will shut them up.dont get swayed by other peoples opinions.form your own opinions based on facts.use the internet to se if this allegations are true.
i had no problems with viruses or security till now.as for reliablity,maybe 3-4 times a month their network is down for a few hours but otherwise it is OK

Then what is the advantage + utility compared to BSNL? If their network is down for a FEW HOURS...as you mentioned.


^^Thanks papul,but again the question of "RELIABILTY" pops up in our mind.

Also see this what they(Alliance Broadband) claim: Alliance Broadband Internet service rates

Link doesn't open dude.

^^yep,some problem with their site.

If they can't even keep their site online, think what will be their service.

BSNL network is completely O.K. now in our area(DUM DUM Telephone Exchange).Despite it suffered due to under-sea cable cut,which is NOT THEIR(BSNL's) FAULT.

I am much sceptical about the service of ALLIANCE!!!
 

mitraark

Decrepit
Thanks,Friend for my query.

Still the feedback( -ve) I got from my neighbours and users of my area/community is about the SECURITY aspect.

They say that Alliance or any other ISP providing network through Cable(RJ-45) is full of viruses...blah..blah...blah.

Even the question of Hacking into one's network or PC is discussed.

Some advised to stay on with BSNL even if their service are under fire now.According to them,in the very near future BSNL will increase bandwidth or provide extra facilities to existing(as well as new)customers as per orders of TRAI and Govt. of India recommendations.

Any more views?

The RJ 45 cable is full of viruses warning is going over my head, although I suppose it is easier to get compromised over a LAN.

You should know for 1 dissatisfied Alliance/Wishnet/other cable ISP customer who will complaint there are 10-20 content ones who are happily enjoying their services.

I live in Dum Dum as well, Surer Maath. Got rid of BSNL after I had no connection for a couple of months due to wire damage in road repairs or something.

Will get Wishnet starting next month, they set up everything in a day, UL at Rs.775 per month for 1mbps, 3mbps during night 1-9 am, many popular torrents are cached in a NAS server, or peered from other LAN users, i am nit sure, 20 mbps peering speed although speeds reach well over 6 MB/s (50 mbps)

My friends are using Wi fi router to share internet via WI fi as well as CAT5 cable to several devices, all in all much more than I would expect for just 800 rupees a month.
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
^^@mitraark,Brother, and to all @TDF Friends, I am sorry for my MISREPRESENTATION in my comments.My fault in explaining,I am wrong.

At least all of us know that RJ-45 is a wire and not a container of "virus",it simply transmits signal.Without going into the nitty-gritty of electronics & signal details,what the various users(neighbours means those of whom are using Sify/BSNL/Airtel/Vodafone/Reliance/Meghbela/Wishnet and also ALLIANCE Broadband service from time to time.I mean not just any next to door or bystander neighbour.)meant is that ALLIANCE or ( may be) other Cable Broadband Network systems,has no security aspects on their servers,unlike other ISP's BSNL/Reliance/Airtel/Tata Docomo/etc. those that provide at least basic security layer on their servers.

It's true that service of all the above mentioned state run or private run ISP's sucks sometimes,but at least SECURITY + RELIABILITY to some degree is always maintained.

This was what my community users told me,but I mis-represented the way of their feedback.

Now any person is always FREE to choose and opt according to his/her best optimal usage + functioning in internet.
 

mitraark

Decrepit
You might be getting concerned over Security a bit too much. How exactly are you expecting to get compromised over Alliance, which would otherwise not occur with Sify/Reliance as you mention?

Don't worry much, rest assured, it's safe, you are more susceptible to viruses over malicious sites than over your local network. I recommend Alliance Broadband, you mentioned you will download stuff, the peering speed alone will make you extremely happy.
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
^^Thanks for the assurance.

But there is a BUT::mad::chinscratch: as according to Ray--->
If I were you I would not listen to what neighbours and users say because trust me most people are ignorant about computes and networks and they just say those things bcause of their lack of knowledge.Next time someone tells you that ISP with rj-45 cable gives viruses ask them to explain how data transfer through rj-45 cable works and that will shut them up.dont get swayed by other peoples opinions.form your own opinions based on facts.use the internet to se if this allegations are true.
i had no problems with viruses or security till now.as for reliablity,maybe 3-4 times a month their network is down for a few hours but otherwise it is OK
What I mean is that once or twice in a year it's O.K. and considerable,but if that problem occurs every MONTH,then how is the reliability justified?
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
It's not down that much everywhere, and i feel BSNL is down more often than that.

Nope, bro.
It's obvious BSNL service sucks SOMETIMES but as of now it's better;Especially at our DUM DUM Telephone Exchange.

Many of our Forum Friends from Uttarpara or Barrackpur suffered by the Faulty and Trash service from BSNL,I also suffered quite a lot...but things seems to have changed now at least on Dum Dum.It takes only 1 day delay for your lodged complaint to be resolved/rectified,at the behest of their positive attitude.

The undersea cable cut saga that took 2 months before was a complete different phenomenon beyond BSNL or TataDOCOMO or Reliance,etc ISP's hands...so nobody except international events are to be blamed.

Admittedly, there is still a large part of lacunae on BSNL's front,but things are changing slowly yet steadily for the betterment of us the customers.
 

mitraark

Decrepit
Nope, bro.
It's obvious BSNL service sucks SOMETIMES but as of now it's better;Especially at our DUM DUM Telephone Exchange.

Many of our Forum Friends from Uttarpara or Barrackpur suffered by the Faulty and Trash service from BSNL,I also suffered quite a lot...but things seems to have changed now at least on Dum Dum.It takes only 1 day delay for your lodged complaint to be resolved/rectified,at the behest of their positive attitude.

The undersea cable cut saga that took 2 months before was a complete different phenomenon beyond BSNL or TataDOCOMO or Reliance,etc ISP's hands...so nobody except international events are to be blamed.

Admittedly, there is still a large part of lacunae on BSNL's front,but things are changing slowly yet steadily for the betterment of us the customers.

I had no telephone connection for a few months because of "road repairs on Dum Dum Road" apparently. Anyways, i have got rid o f BSNL for good, went to Cable office on May 31, 4 PM, got Internet set up at my house at 6 PM on the very day, got my IP and username password before noon the next day, so service is first class.

512 kbps connection , Surfing is ok, youtube videos play at 240p, but many popular videos are cached in ISP NAS server maybe, 1080p Vevo videos download at 2-3MB/s

Night speed from 1-9 AM is 3mbps on my plan, get around 350-400KB/s speed, download around 9GB in that time.

There is in internal tracker run unofficially by some wishnet users, around 1000 torrents there, latest games/movies. DOwnload speed is Full Duplex 100mbps, around 10MB/s

Other peered torrents from kat.ph also reaches speed such as 5-6MB/s even though my peering speed is supposed to be 20mbps.

If you still say BSNL is better i think you might have been considering reputation over product.
 
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kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
^^Good Luck + Good feedback Mate.
Just observe the consistency and reliability of WISHNET Cable service for some few months,and then you could be satisfied.
For the meantime keep yours fingers crossed.
Friend,at least one aspect of BSNL is that they are still run by the Govt.,whatever pains,hassles or obstructions we face,there is still a way out as solution .
I again reiterate that BSNL has problems + lacunae on their part,still they are slowly but steadily increasing their POSITIVE service towards us the customers.
And all of us know that:--->(1). "All that glitters is not Gold".
(2). "Patience is a virtue".

Sometimes the restlessness + impatience amongst us,also paves the way and path for sufferings amongst us.....
 
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