Myth
Cyborg Agent
^^but in the end as with the tradition of TDF..he will be convinced to take 3570K+any cheap Z77 alternatives
lol.
Unfortunately true.
Hitman wants gaming machine...........But only has 70K.......
lol.
Unfortunately true.
Cilus
laborare est orare
Didn't understand that part, specially drawback in heavy titles. Also how can a single game can be the measure of Crossfire performance in every aspect. There are plenty of heavy games like Metro 2033, Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Sleeping Dogs and many more which works perfectly with AMD Crossfire, without any tweaks required. Source: reviews and myself. Far Cry 3 is a good example of SLI smoothness but that can't imply that Crossfire is worse in every case. There are plenty of games where Nvidia SLI suffers from Micro Shuttering. Result: Nvidia added their adpative V-Sync in control panel, in case of AMD, we do have a third party tool.
Hitman, I think Sumon has suggested you a pretty good config, both AMD and Intel based. And go with single GPU setting for now, no need to add two graphics card. If you are going with AMD config and single GPU solution then you can also get Asus M5A97 motherboard @ 6.6K and with the rest of the money, get a MSI HD 7970 OC @ 28.5K from SMC. It will let you have all the goodies, overclocking, good quality motherboard and a very powerful single GPU which can take all the games @ 1080P resolution. AFAIK, AMD 8000 series will come at Q2 of 2013 and when you are going to add another 7000 series card for CF, you will find better cards with lower price point are already launched.
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
^^but in the end as with the tradition of TDF..he will be convinced to take 3570K+any cheap Z77 alternatives
Sumon actually 3570k and g1 sniper is a great combo with no sacrifice on quality.
GPU choice is entirely upto him though. Since he mentioned SLI, i had to bring these in.
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mandarpalshikar
Why So Serious ???
@Vickybat - It seems... there is no point in discussing anything with you. Either you think that you know it all or you think that everybody else in this world is a dumb. Since you are a good friend of a Moderator of TDF forums, as pointed by you, I wont say anything further. I have observed in similar discussion we had in some other thread that mods are favoring you even if the points you made did not make any sense. I dont want to risk myself getting banned on TDF just because I ran into trouble with a Guy who lives 20 KM away from one of the respected mods.
And on side notes from me... please understand to whom you are saying what.
@Cilus - No offence intended towards you.
Cilus
laborare est orare
Any specific posts which you are referring?
Although you are saying no offence to me, but surely it is for me, isn't it? You clearly mentioned that anything written from your side might lead to your banning as Mods are friends of Vickybat and as a Mod and also being a friend of Vicky, I think it is somewhere referring to me also.
Buddy, you might think other's information is baseless and there are plenty of cases where I too think other people's comments are baseless but that cannot lead me to believe that whatever I am saying is correct and all the others are providing baseless information. Until a person is providing information based on some reliable sources, reviews and known facts, they can't be called baseless.
I know you are referring to the TXAA related posts where I have also expressed my doubt against it as future AA. But I can't say what Vickybat was saying is useless and baseless as he provided couple of links from some good review sites justifying his statements. A lot of people including you and me, posted their opinions, against or for or some more information. But if anybody does not agree with you does not mean that his points are baseless junk, try to get that.
In today's discussion, I went through the different reviews of CF and SLI and found out that out of the box, SLI performs better with less Micro shuttering but AMD cards can achieve the same with tweaks. So I placed my opinions against it. That does not mean that all the information provided by others contradicting me are providing baseless information.
gagan_kumar
Wise Old Owl
seriously guys u are fighting for very small things there which won't matter in real world...........
sumonpathak
knocking on heavens door
@cilus
actually he aint referring to you....
PM inbound...
actually he aint referring to you....
PM inbound...
@hitman
For AMD config go for fx8350+990fx mobo+hd7950+APC 1.1kVA
Else get
i5 3470: 11.7k
Asrock h77Pro4/MVP:6.8k
Sapphire vapor-x hd7950:22k
APC 1.1kVA:5.2k
Total:45.7k and spend the remaining amount to get a corsair carbide 400R
AMD motherboard is more feature rich plus fx8350 would have good advantage in heavily multi-threaded tasks while in others it would trail the i5.
i5 3470 has advantage in some CPU-bound games.
For AMD config go for fx8350+990fx mobo+hd7950+APC 1.1kVA
Else get
i5 3470: 11.7k
Asrock h77Pro4/MVP:6.8k
Sapphire vapor-x hd7950:22k
APC 1.1kVA:5.2k
Total:45.7k and spend the remaining amount to get a corsair carbide 400R
AMD motherboard is more feature rich plus fx8350 would have good advantage in heavily multi-threaded tasks while in others it would trail the i5.
i5 3470 has advantage in some CPU-bound games.
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^^but in the end as with the tradition of TDF..he will be convinced to take 3570K+any cheap Z77 alternatives
The Tradition is there simply because when it comes to GAMAING i5 3570k is simply better than fx8350....
sumonpathak
knocking on heavens door
In gamaing even a 3470 will beat/perform at par with the 3570k....so your argument is invalid.
However we all have suggested the best you can get for your money....now its upto you.
Paying 2k+ for 3FPS is complete stupidity...
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The Incinerator
Human Spambot
The irony here is apart from 2 persons (genuinely only 1) everybody suggesting you an FX8350 has bought i5 25XX/35XX series processors themselves for their rigs !!
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
@ OP
Buddy i guess by now you should be clear about everything relating to single and multigpu considerations.
Whatever you decide on cpu side is fine. Whether its 3570k or 8350, you cannot go wrong either way. But i would point here that AMD's platform is a bit more future proof
as you can fit upcoming steamroller cpu's in existing am3+ motherboards. If those chips prove to be too good, then you will have a huge advantage.
In intel, there is no future cpu support as haswell will have a new ( 1150) socket.
Now coming to gpu, you decide what you want to go for. Whether its single or multigpu is completely your decision.
If you can spend 20-22k, then get 7950 eyes closed as it performs equally with a gtx 670 which is expensive.
For a cheaper single gpu, 7870 is again worthy for its price as 660-ti is expensive and not significantly faster.
But for multigpu, consider 660 sli over 7850cf. 7870 cf is good but expensive. 660 sli will provide all the smoothness at a much cheaper price.
So you make the decision.
Buddy i guess by now you should be clear about everything relating to single and multigpu considerations.
Whatever you decide on cpu side is fine. Whether its 3570k or 8350, you cannot go wrong either way. But i would point here that AMD's platform is a bit more future proof
as you can fit upcoming steamroller cpu's in existing am3+ motherboards. If those chips prove to be too good, then you will have a huge advantage.
In intel, there is no future cpu support as haswell will have a new ( 1150) socket.
Now coming to gpu, you decide what you want to go for. Whether its single or multigpu is completely your decision.
If you can spend 20-22k, then get 7950 eyes closed as it performs equally with a gtx 670 which is expensive.
For a cheaper single gpu, 7870 is again worthy for its price as 660-ti is expensive and not significantly faster.
But for multigpu, consider 660 sli over 7850cf. 7870 cf is good but expensive. 660 sli will provide all the smoothness at a much cheaper price.
So you make the decision.
Myth
Cyborg Agent
FX8350 is pretty recent. All those with intel quad cores probably bought it long back.
Upgrading immediately to a FX8350 is pointless unless one is really interested or requires it.
@OP: You can make a definite decision after reading Vickybat's above post. Its a simpler summary of what has transpired until now in this thread.
The Incinerator
Human Spambot
The FX 8150 was very much there and the FX 8350 is a mere 15% better than the predecessor and even less while gaming. The option was there even back then.
Cilus
laborare est orare
No it is not. FX 8150 was launched couple of months after Sandy bridge release and many people have bought their rigs based on that.
FX-8350 is pretty good in gaming compared to FX-8150 at stock speed
Have a look: AnandTech - Bench - CPU
However, whoever bought what is not OP's point of concern here, we are suggesting a balanced rig for OP based on technical facts, not anyone's personal preferences. Ya, the thread went little off topic but there also people have provided technical facts. .So lets not discuss whatever people bought and what they are suggesting.
FX-8350 is pretty good in gaming compared to FX-8150 at stock speed
Have a look: AnandTech - Bench - CPU
However, whoever bought what is not OP's point of concern here, we are suggesting a balanced rig for OP based on technical facts, not anyone's personal preferences. Ya, the thread went little off topic but there also people have provided technical facts. .So lets not discuss whatever people bought and what they are suggesting.
The Incinerator
Human Spambot
You will give me an Anand and I wll give you a AMD FX-8350 - Gaming Performance | bit-tech.net on 8150 Vs 8350, and it is pretty bad in gaming when compared as a newly released proccy IMO.
It will carry on for ever as we agree to disagree.
One thing though I agree it is not going to serve OP's point of concern.
It will carry on for ever as we agree to disagree.
One thing though I agree it is not going to serve OP's point of concern.
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Myth
Cyborg Agent
You are supporting the fact that 8350 is better at gaming than 8150, or not ?
Or is it that the 8650 lead is insignificant ?
Your link says the same thing as Cilius's Anand link
8350 is ahead of 8150 at stock speeds and also OCed.
The Incinerator
Human Spambot
Myth read carefully I never once said that FX 8150 is better than 8350 but I said it is just a mere improvement when compared as a newly released proccy.It did not break any new ground ,it is a known fact. In one game even at stock the the newly released 8350 is a frame slower than the older 8150.Thats bad,is what I meant..My link and its conclusion potrays a different picture ... what are you reading...
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Myth
Cyborg Agent
Did I say you did ? What are you reading...
I never questioned your post contents, just asked questions to clarify my understanding. I hope you get the difference