Gaming Rig for around 130K

Cilus

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Buddy, 1st check ur PM.

2nd: My card is again 2 generation old already....after it HD 6900 series and HD 7000 seires have already been launched. Now I don't think CF support has been dropped from my card, infact it is getting better. I still get performance comparable to HD 7950.

The support you are talking about is true for any older generation GPU, not specific to single or Multi-GPU solution. For example, AMD has stopped regular Driver update for their HD 4000 series and lower because optimizing all those different architecture based cards regularly under the hood of a single driver is not possible. So they receive update quarterly instead of the regular update of HD 5000 series or higher....It is not specific to single or Multi-GPU solution. A person with HD 4890 CF and a single HD 4890 will face the same problem.

Multi-GPU setup, it is getting better in every iteration of drivers from AMD and Nvidia. They are adding more and more tweaking features in their Drivers for Multi-GPU setup and for AMDF cards, we have some really nice 3rd party tools like Radeon pro which can take care of Dual GPU issues like Micro-shuttering, lagging etc very efficiently.
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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OK thanks. Got it, anyways I was also reading about that also. See this. This is what I was just reading right now. :)

OK here are some link about crossfire problems as sumon asked
Advantages of SLI/Crossfire vs Single GPU
Single GPU eqivilent of Crossfire 7950's?
AMD display drivers crash when running crossfire
SLI / Crossfire VS single GPU

As it seems that Crossfire does creates problems but there is always some solution lying around to be unleashed. What it basically means that you are always on edge and would read and learn a lot about AMD when using crossfire. :p
 

sumonpathak

knocking on heavens door
First link
those have no idea what they are talking about :p
*www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1128322-Advantages-of-SLI-Crossfire-vs-Single-GPU
old link...not applicable now....multi gpu has came a looong way from 07..
*www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/362389-15-display-drivers-crash-running-crossfire
the problem described was same for single GPU solutions too with 12.9..users had driver crashed problem over a varied number of setup..including me...
*yogscast.com/showthread.php?82505-SLI-Crossfire-VS-single-GPU
Lots of games don't even support dual GPUs so I would never recommend it.
i wonder where did he learn that..maybe from" i no haz so it sucks" academy..

Moral of the story:the combo you are getting beats the holy hell out of any single GPU out there(almost)..go for it..
Just dont jump into new driver s soon as its released(this tip is for everyone)
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
@ gameranand

Exactly. I would put this as crossfire won't deliver everything out of the box as a single gpu.

But if the issues are ironed out ( which they will), you get a massive performance improvement with crossfire ( in your case that is).
Just get those two 7870's eyes closed. Thinking more about it will only get you confused.
Driver problems and scaling issues are now a thing of the past.
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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Posting it again so that no one has to go back. As for CF vs Single GPU. I am reading a lot right now, will come to a conclusion by evening I guess. :)

TypeNamePrice
ProcessorIntel Core i7 3770K19600
MotherboardAsus Maximus V Formula16500
RAMCorsair Vengeance 2.0 2133MHz4350
Hard DriveWD 2 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive Black Edition (WD2002FAEX)10264
Graphics CardSapphire HD7870 GHz Edition * 236400
Power SupplyCorsair HX85010450
CabinetCooler Master Storm Trooper ATX11110
KeyboardCorsair Vengeance K906500
MouseLogitech Optical Gaming Mouse G5003550
CPU CoolerDeepCool Ice Blade Pro2963
Optical DriveASUS DRW-24B3ST SATA1250
UPSAPC Back-UPS 1100VA (BR1100CI-IN)5200
HeadphonesCorsair Vengeance 15004264
ShipppingShipping Cost in TotalUnknown
TotalTotal Cost Excluding Shipping132855

You can also check Corrsair A50 and A70, they are very good cooler at sub 3K and 4K price point respectively.

Yeah I checked them also and it seems like they offer similar performance to the one I choose. Also Corsair one would block 1 or 2 RAM slots while this one won't and the price I am getting for this Cooler is killer as its available everywhere from Flipkart to MD at around 3.3K -3.5K, so these are the reasons I decided to go with it. :)

IMO, its either evo (+noctua tim(optional)) or noctua.
You could add another fan to the evo for a push-pill config. (eg. Cooler Master XtraFlo Cooler)
Dont see much of an improvement with Cooler Master 412 Slim.
I agree that there is not much improvement with this one but the price difference is also not much, as for performance it gives a better performance by 4-5C. So please do tell me should I spend about 400INR for 4-5C or not. As for Noctua, that one would also give similar performance with maybe 2-3C better than 412 Slim but for that I have to pay over 4K. So you see 412 Slim is giving much better VFM than Noctua. :) I hope you got my point. :)
 
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Cilus

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anand, AFAIK, Corsair A50 performs similar to Thermalright Venomous X.
HARDOCP - Results: Temps & Sound - Corsair A70 High-Performance CPU Cooler Review

However, you can also opt for DeppCool Ice Blade Pro 2.0, available around 3K. DeepCool ICEBLADEPRO 120MM TRANSPARENT BLUE LED UNIVERSAL CPU COOLER

Here is the review: Deepcool ICE BLADE PRO V2.0 CPU Cooler Review | Hardware Secrets
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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Ice Blade pro looks like a good option to me. It performs similar to Noctua and other big players and is available for 3K. :)
Also is 412 Slim not that good ??

Well I just found out that model I am getting everywhere as Ice Blade Pro is actually the older version and not the v2.0 but still as per performance charts it performs quite well. :)
 

topgear

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can't remember where but I've read that CM 412 performs similar to Hyper 212 Evo ..

and yes, Crosshair V is for AMD only the deal you are getting on Maximus V is just too good to be true - if you can get it at 16.5k then this would be the deal of the year ;-)
 

Skud

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Anand, don't read much; you will only get more confused. AMD does have some problems regarding zero day CF support in some games, but things are generally ironed out quickly (again exceptions are there). If by any chance, CF doesn't work for any game for a significant period of time, you can always fall back to a single card config. In that case, a single 7870 is no slouch at all. In case of lower mid end cards, getting a single GPU is preferable. Say one 7850 is better than a couple of 7770s. But in your case the individual GPU is fairly high end, so you can go for dual GPU eyes closed. The gameplay experience will improve significantly over a single 7970 and you can turn on all the eye candies and some more. Add RadeonPro to the mix and it becomes a no-brainer :)
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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can't remember where but I've read that CM 412 performs similar to Hyper 212 Evo ..

and yes, Crosshair V is for AMD only the deal you are getting on Maximus V is just too good to be true - if you can get it at 16.5k then this would be the deal of the year ;-)

Well then I guess I am locked on to DeepCool Ice Blade Pro for now.

Yeah I am also surprised, I hope that its the right price, and if it is then I'm gonna pay the shop tomorrow itself to lock on it. :p

Anand, don't read much; you will only get more confused. AMD does have some problems regarding zero day CF support in some games, but things are generally ironed out quickly (again exceptions are there). If by any chance, CF doesn't work for any game for a significant period of time, you can always fall back to a single card config. In that case, a single 7870 is no slouch at all. In case of lower mid end cards, getting a single GPU is preferable. Say one 7850 is better than a couple of 7770s. But in your case the individual GPU is fairly high end, so you can go for dual GPU eyes closed. The gameplay experience will improve significantly over a single 7970 and you can turn on all the eye candies and some more. Add RadeonPro to the mix and it becomes a no-brainer :)

Thanks for the advice. :)
 

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Anand, don't read much; you will only get more confused. AMD does have some problems regarding zero day CF support in some games, but things are generally ironed out quickly (again exceptions are there). If by any chance, CF doesn't work for any game for a significant period of time, you can always fall back to a single card config. In that case, a single 7870 is no slouch at all. In case of lower mid end cards, getting a single GPU is preferable. Say one 7850 is better than a couple of 7770s. But in your case the individual GPU is fairly high end, so you can go for dual GPU eyes closed. The gameplay experience will improve significantly over a single 7970 and you can turn on all the eye candies and some more. Add RadeonPro to the mix and it becomes a no-brainer :)

Yup rightly said mate.
 

topgear

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Staff member
Well then I guess I am locked on to DeepCool Ice Blade Pro for now.

Yeah I am also surprised, I hope that its the right price, and if it is then I'm gonna pay the shop tomorrow itself to lock on it. :p

Thanks for the advice. :)

but there's almost ~5c different between 212 Evo and Ice Blade Pro - guess which one is better ? Hint : refer to post # 278 by Myth ;-)
 

Cilus

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Another thing Anand, there is no point of buying 2 TB WD Black HDD...You're trying to use a performance Hard Disk for Data Storage. Buy a normal WD Green 2TB around 6.5K (Sata 6 Gbps, 64 MB Cache Version) or Black 1 TB and 128GB Corsair Forsa SSD. Use the SSD for OS and installing the games. ALthough Forsa series is not the best performing SSD out there but still far more speedier than any HDD, It is still faster than even the mighty Velociraptor and Seagate Momentous XT Hybrid Drives.
 

Xai

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Regarding installing and running games on SSD - will the more frequent read/writes due to playing games on SSD, shorten SSD life?
 
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gameranand

gameranand

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Okay, bad news for me. Asus Maximus V Formula is not available with SMC International who quoted me that sweet price, looks like now I have to get it elsewhere. PrimeABGB is offering it at 20990INR which is the minimum I am getting right now. See guys if you can find lower prices. Deltapge has lesser price but they don't deliver in my area.
 
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gameranand

gameranand

Living to Play
No not yet. Waiting for one more quotation from a shop, after that I'll start ordering. :)

I guess ordering is not a problem, Just one day in bank with 2-4 NEFT and I am done, real pain is finding the lowest price for the components. :p
 
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