"Prosperity can't happen in democracy"

revolt

Banned
lol prosperity and democracy without a revolution is like a food without salt.Revolution is by default accompanied when you take these two names.Anyways it was for those who did not understood what i had stated earlier.

The main fact is decision.Only few people in this world has the ability to make right decisions.
I'll elaborate on this matter later.

Btw @arsenalgunner dude please have the courage to tell something directly.If you have anything against me quote my post and directly let me know it.I am not here to argue with anybody.What i am here is what i am in the real world too.
I take it you had me in your mind when you stated "wannabe revolutionaries".Let me tell you nobody wants to be a revolutionist for no reason until and unless he/she is foolish enough! It is not a post,icon,dream or any that sort of thing that someone craves for.It is a feeling which comes out when you are pushed behind a certain line by someone.

A revolution can be started by a single person but is very difficult to make it a success by only one person.
What i meant was everyone who is taking part in that revolution should have the same feeling which that single person have.It should be in sync.Proper knowledge that why are you doing it and will the outcome of it really benefit 100s of people.(Not like these days where people just to become famous or fulfill their personal desires joins it)
Mind it this is a very dangerous act.
 

revolt

Banned
^^Thank you exactly like this way.If you have anything just say it i wont rebel against that if it is ok.
Anyways i will keep that point in mind.
 

gopi_vbboy

Cyborg Agent
Well revolution in a country can be a funded one by foreign country to overthrow government.Revolution not always necessarily give us good form of government unless the cause comes from people truly.

USA has economic hit-mans all around world. They always can try to destabilize government in the name of development/change.Thats what happened with vietnam,libya and iraq.

In case of libya, the govt was very good , people were just brainwashed, rebels were given money and govt was overthrown and we know the fate of Gadaffi.


So for India dictatorship will not be suitable if its misused by foreign countryto take control.I also don't believe revolutions will not necessarily bring good form of government.
 

Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Prosperity comes with evolution, revolution is the last resort only when things go out of order.
If anything our nation needs, is a revolution in mindset (or to put it straight to get rid of the retarded mentality), which most Indians either choose to have, or are carry it due to society expectations. This will resolve problems we face as a modern and open mindset would bring right evolutionary changes.
 

patrick4

Chief
Could you all please clarify..

What exactly is your under standing of prosperity? if you think prosperity means only quality of life.. then its different for different people and YES, india as a country is prospering.. If you are talking about prosperity at absolute monetary terms at a macro level (GDP), then YES again.. India is prospering..

Its not a question of prosperity will happen or not.. its at what rate it happens that really matters.

Secondly, why is everyone giving realtime examples of what is happening in other nations to prove a point which is mostly hypothetical..
 

Desmond

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Well revolution in a country can be a funded one by foreign country to overthrow government.Revolution not always necessarily give us good form of government unless the cause comes from people truly.

USA has economic hit-mans all around world. They always can try to destabilize government in the name of development/change.Thats what happened with vietnam,libya and iraq.

In case of libya, the govt was very good , people were just brainwashed, rebels were given money and govt was overthrown and we know the fate of Gadaffi.


So for India dictatorship will not be suitable if its misused by foreign countryto take control.I also don't believe revolutions will not necessarily bring good form of government.

Someone saw Zeitgeist:Addendum :p

Prosperity comes with evolution, revolution is the last resort only when things go out of order.
If anything our nation needs, is a revolution in mindset (or to put it straight to get rid of the retarded mentality), which most Indians either choose to have, or are carry it due to society expectations. This will resolve problems we face as a modern and open mindset would bring right evolutionary changes.

I think we need a revolution. The government is lying in shambles and needs a thorough cleanup. But, hardly anyone is interested in changing the government. Everyone is more obsessed with entertainment and gossip. This is what the politicians want, that everyone be entertained and no one stand up against them. A few who give a damn cannot do anything much either.

Everyone say that they support Anna's campaign and show their support by liking random Anna related pages on FB, all the while lying in their AC room on their comfy sofa within the confines of their homes. How do you think can there be a change in the government?
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Liverpool_fan

Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
I think we need a revolution. The government is lying in shambles and needs a thorough cleanup. But, hardly anyone is interested in changing the government. Everyone is more obsessed with entertainment and gossip. This is what the politicians want, that everyone be entertained and no one stand up against them. A few who give a damn cannot do anything much either.
Yes but it's not only the government; clerk to CEO, chaiwalla to politicians, management to panchayat, mechanic to techie, shopkeepers to shoppers, students to teachers all of them are corrupt/small time/selfish morons.
And let's face it, Who elects the government? Who votes for the parties who clearly play caste and religion based politics? Everything comes up to small time, narrow and selfish mentality of the people, open flouting of rules, no true mutual respect, no civic sense and what not.
The uneducated and ignorant make poor choices while educated and moronic make corrupt choices. Instead of improving each others life, obsession is with cheating and fleecing others; moronic gossips, and justifying their shite by pretext of "culture".
I can go on and on, and on...gaaah

tl;dr version It's all because of the mentality of the people. Our government is the image of the nation, as it is.
 

Sarath

iDota
Democracy might be bad but Dictatorship, well, that is a world of pain and a lot many wars.

We just need to fine tune our democracy, at least everyone here should take a pledge to vote in the next elections.

That reminds me, I do not have a voters ID :|
 

Desmond

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Why is everyone so obsessed with money????

I say everything should be made open source. This will make money obsolete. With the existence of money, people work for money, therefore, he who controls money controls the people. If there is no money, people will work for the benefit of society and not selfish gains.
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I think the advantage of democracy is that it is harder to knock down a democratic country's government. But in dictatorship, all that the external powers have to do is knock down one guy and the whole government crumbles.
 

Desmond

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Don't be naive. People won't do anything without the motivation of money.

That's the point!! We are so dependent on it that we cannot do anything without it, consequently becoming ripe for oppression. Even though there is an abundance of resources to go about, certain selfish elements could regulate those resources to make us spend more, consequently forcing us to work more or take loans.

Ex. Some (if not all) petrol pump owners are known to deny people petrol by falsely claiming that petrol has run out, thus driving demand up and consequently prices.

Another example : If you get addicted to coke, you will do whatever the dealer tells you to do and pay him whatever price he quotes in order to get your fix. That mean's you are now the dealer's *****.
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Arsenal_Gunners

Human Spambot
Equally distribute money,all working for each other etc. We have heard it all before,it's called communism and it has failed spectacularly.
 

Desmond

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My point is that as long as money exists, people will be oppressed.
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