Zeitgeist Movement !!

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karnivore

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Allen_Of_Athia said:
karnivore said:
OK.....time to DEBUNK.

ConspiracyScience - probably the best debunking on the net
WebSkeptic
(A word of caution though. The movie has been debunked from both sides of the divide. The Christians and the skeptics. So...take your pick)

One can join in the discussions at:
JREF
RichardDawkins.net
JREF-Addendum
RichardDawkins.net-Addendum

There are plenty of debunking vids on YouTube and Google video. Not all are good, but some are...

You can do your own research as well.
For 911 :
*www.debunk911myths.org
*www.911myths.com
*www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/1227842.html

US Federal Reserve:
*www.federalreserveeducation.o.../tour/tour.htm
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Too bad Zeitgeist: Addendum has nothing to do with 911 eh? If it did, then your post would be relevant. Try watching the movie instead of making assumptions and posting based on those false assumptions.[/font]
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Thanks for reminding me of what to do and what not to. 911 myths were dealt with in the original Zeitgeist. If you had taken your tin foil off, for a sec, u would have noticed that I have provided links for debunking both the crapiolas.

I admit though, that I should have posted debunking links in respective threads, specially when a separate thread exists. But really who cares. Just look at the thread itself. In spite of providing means to verify the claims made by the makers, people continue to download and be in awe.

As Barnum said, "A sucker is born every minute", and they continue to be suckers, because thats what they choose to be. Anyway....

Mea Culpa.
 
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Allen_Of_Athia

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No tin foil hat on here but my issue is that Addendum has nothing in it to debunk. There is no conspiracy theories and such. It is sparking a movement. It proposes a different kind of society. Interesting stuff. A lot of people seem to think its something it is not and without seeing it, comment on it.
 
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naveen_reloaded

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yes ...

if u see the first part then u could remember that at the end they would say " REVOLUTION IS NOW "

and and second part beautifully handled on that issue... - revolution !!!
 
karnivore

karnivore

in your face..
Allen_Of_Athia said:
No tin foil hat on here but my issue is that Addendum has nothing in it to debunk. There is no conspiracy theories and such. It is sparking a movement. It proposes a different kind of society. Interesting stuff. A lot of people seem to think its something it is not and without seeing it, comment on it.
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Can you please leave the goal post where you found it first ? Thank u.

U pointed out that ADDENDUM does not deal with 911 truthers, and I responded to that. Now you are talking of Project "Crapiola" Venus. Is there anything new to that Utopia. Old wine in a new shiny bottle. The core principles of Marxism has been given a contemporary spin. Same old anti-capitalist din - the world is run my money and power hungry banks and corporations, monetary system is evil, lets get rid of money.....*YAWN*

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Allen_Of_Athia

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The Venus Project is in the movie. It`s the main part. Thats what we`re talking about. It`s not a Utopia or perfect. They say that it is not in the movie.
I see big differences in Marxism and a resorce based ecconomy.
Communism and Socialism still had things like money and labor, had social stratification, and elected officials. No methods for the production of abundance etc.
 
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hope these question help to know about venus project...


*thezeitgeistmovement.com/faq-home.htm



guys i have started a zeitgeist community... please if u are interested in joining fellow members who are interested too...

Join in here *www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=56440610
 
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karnivore said:
OK.....time to DEBUNK.

ConspiracyScience - probably the best debunking on the net
WebSkeptic
(A word of caution though. The movie has been debunked from both sides of the divide. The Christians and the skeptics. So...take your pick)
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he is right zeitgeist part one is about theology/paganism which says all the god are the same but it was interpreted as different individual in different societies it it also the same doctrine used by the nazi's there is no proof for what they say and it ahs been debunked by several people

the part two is released during the 2008 presidential election it was produced by the same group they do have agendas

so don't just memorize completely what they say and propagate their agendas just as you did in your school try to research more
here are some links
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsUVuDS6aQE&feature=related
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=J09UVTZG01U&feature=related

if you start to research about the conspiracy about the secret societies,religion,ufo's and whatever is out there it will truly fukcup your mind
most of them are put out by the same people who wants to cover up things
and want to confuse you and this is nothing new
so decide for yourself.
 
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I have seen both the parts and I personally used to believe (even before watching these videos) that all gods are the same(theorotically) and in reality there is no god! I think Religion is the best as well the worst thing mankind has ever invented/created. 'Best' if used for good and 'Worst' if used for bad purposes.

Also, I truely believe in the way the world functions as per zeitgeist. It's MONEY that decides everything. It's right that MONEY holds value only till you give importance to it but the thing is it's so integrated in our system now that it can't be removed or replaced. The only way to replace money/barter is providing UL resources which practically is just not possible and 'some'' people won't ever let it become possible!

Our ISP's can't even provide UL download WTF will they provide UL internet to everyone and moreoever UL other resources to one and all! The thing is, scarcity is actually 'good' for businesses and they are the ones that run the world and not the 'people'. If we want to change this, everyone must unite simultaneously otherwise this can never be changed. And since this I feel is practically impossible, the dream of zeitgeist too is impossible!

Yet to watch the third video.

P.S. You don't actually need to believe on everything that is shown in the video. Just give it a thought by yourself and you will understand it ;). Money is surely everything for me (till it is in our system! :D)

Offtopic: You guys must have seen that Mastercard AD where a boy takes this parents to amusement park and a lines goes 'Watching your parents become children again - Priceless'. Now tell me how did he buy those tickets? Parents, Love or MONEY? :D
 
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the information given about the monetary system is true amol they create money out of nothing we people enslave us to the banks by loans only giving profits to the bankers without even realising we are just slaves for these big banks always running to earn money without even respecting our fellow people it has been like that for centuries why do they have to let every one know now?
do you think they suddenly had a change of heart?
it was about creating one world socialist state one world religion now see europen union european countries cant make decisions above the E.U and they have lot more plans coming....
the internet is being used as a tool to propagate their agendas with all the 2012 carp(they have a new movie coming out) and new age belief(try to research on this).
most people dont know how they are used as a tool to propagate their agendas
just by believing what ever they see and read on the tv and the internet
 
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amol48 said:
I have seen both the parts and I personally used to believe (even before watching these videos) that all gods are the same(theorotically) and in reality there is no god! I think Religion is the best as well the worst thing mankind has ever invented/created. 'Best' if used for good and 'Worst' if used for bad purposes.
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there is a difference between we believing in one conciousness(the god) the they telling that krishna,jesus,mithra,and horus were born on the same date and came back to life after 3 days and they base these on position of stars which is the basis of paganism

some people even doubt the day jesus was born as the sheep cant be kept outside in the cold during december festivals like halloween also corresponds to some other date that is significant to these pagan gorups

The only way to replace money/barter is providing UL resources which practically is just not possible and 'some'' people won't ever let it become possible
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you are right on that nothing in the world is have to be this way we dont have to pay for basisc needs and every one can live a happy utopoan life style instead everything is been commercialised and progress is blocked by some previlaged people
If we want to change this, everyone must unite simultaneously otherwise this can never be changed
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there is also difference between uniting together and giving up sovreignity for peace there is a document called iron mountain report which says if we want to end all wars we have to destroy all nations and religions now see all the westerners see the muslims as barbarians and there is a lot of pressure between israel and the muslim countries in the middle east trade unioins are also used to merge nations together coming financial collapse will be used for this cause it is engineered that way.
 
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there is also difference between uniting together and giving up sovreignity for peace there is a document called iron mountain report which says if we want to end all wars we have to destroy all nations and religions now see all the westerners see the muslims as barbarians and there is a lot of pressure between israel and the muslim countries in the middle east trade unioins are also used to merge nations together coming financial collapse will be used for this cause it is engineered that way.
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The thing is if religion is demolished, the world cannot function now! Hence it's just not possible to change it. I 'REALLY' don't think anybody can change the system now at least not in the next 75-100 years. Just not possible!
 
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Allen_Of_Athia

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It's March 15, ZDAY!!!
There is a big turn-out at the New York Event. They'll post the video on the forums at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com pretty soon. Should be cool.
Religion can stick around in a society proposed by The Venus Project and TZM so it’s not a threat to religion. Religion will probably die away sooner than later but it can stay as long as religious people need it too :)
 
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