Xiaomi secretly sending your info to Chinese servers

Flash

Lost in speed
There's this link regarding the screenshots..

*trak.in/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/xiaomi-Redmi-note-leak.jpg

and this IP range belongs to:

*trak.in/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/IP-Address-Details.jpg

Be Careful…Xiaomi Phones Secretly Sending Personal Data To The Chinese Govt
 

petergriffin

I Am A Potato Enthusiast
"From Mi India FB Page :-

*www.facebook.com/MiIndiaOfficial?f…nf

Q: Online articles recently referred to some privacy issues with the Redmi Note, claiming that photos and text messages are sent to China secretly. Are they true?
A: An article severely misinterpreted a discussion thread asking about the Redmi Note’s communication with a server in China. The article also neglected to refer to a Chinese version of this Q&A already posted on the Xiaomi Hong Kong Facebook page (*www.facebook.com/Xiaomihongkong/posts/7…). MIUI does not secretly upload photos and text messages.
MIUI requests public data from Xiaomi servers from time to time. These include data such as preset greeting messages (thousands of jokes, holiday greetings and poems) in the Messaging app and MIUI OTA update notifications, i.e. all non-personal data that does not infringe on user privacy.
Q: Does Xiaomi upload any personal data without my knowledge?
A: Xiaomi offers a service called Mi Cloud that enables users to back up and manage personal information in the cloud, as well as sync to other devices. This includes contacts, notes, text messages and photos. Mi Cloud is turned off by default. Users must log in with their Mi accounts and manually turn on Mi Cloud. They also have the option to only turn on backup for certain types of data. The use and storage of data in Mi Cloud fully respects the local laws of each country and region. Strict encryption algorithms are implemented to protect user privacy.
Q: Can I turn Mi Cloud off?
A: Yes. Just go to Settings > Mi Cloud to turn it off. If you would like to use a cloud back up service from another provider, there are options from Google, Dropbox and many others.
Q: Why should I believe you?
A: Xiaomi is serious about user privacy and takes all possible steps to ensure our Internet services adhere to our privacy policy. We do not upload any personal information and data without the permission of users. In a globalized economy, Chinese manufacturers’ handsets are selling well internationally, and many international brands are similarly successful in China – any unlawful activity would be greatly detrimental to a company’s global expansion efforts.
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kkn13

Cyber Genius FTW
They obviously wont admit to it if they do such things, even nsa and google deny such claims even if its true
 
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quagmire

quagmire

Allllright !
Can any of the forum members having Xiaomi phone please check that in their phones and confirm?

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Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
what google and apple track is public knowledge, and there is opt out for at least google. This xiaomi thing seems to be simple cloud backup?
what nsa tracks may not be public knowledge, but they are not interested in your texts and tweets.
arguably facebook churns this kind of data, and owns your photos, plus you are directly sending your data on its servers, yet no one seems to be unduly worried about that.

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ye, basically this. What can all this data can possibly be used for.
I don't think this is going to make a difference in my life (unless my data gets routinely streamed to some hacker in China). Besides, its a coincidence that I do not (and will not) own a Mi3.

The keyword here is, destination. There is a difference between spying and hacking. I'd be wary of the latter, Chinese or not. What if someone phishes my bank account details ? Tracks me for malicious reasons ? Harasses me randomly ? That is not okay.
 

ithehappy

Human Spambot
Lol, what amazes me is that people (normal users, like us) can even understand what's actually being spied and what not. There is a news regarding Xiaomi, there is a news about Apple, but there is no news about Samsung or Nokia, and now people will think that they are safe! Nothing is safe! We only know what they led us to be known. All the smartphones we use are being connected to internet at least for half an hour every day, they all have microphones too, is it really hard to spy on you? Think about that.

I don't believe anyone to be honest, including the Canadian RIM. That's why I don't use my cell phone for any serious transactions, and never will.
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
NSA have all the info, everyone's pictures, everyone's tweets, emails, private messages and smartband logs.
NSA also have an easy to use user interface, that let's you bring up any data from anywhere in the planet. Like the voice logs of telephone calls are searchable by keywords (so they will start tracking you based on nefarious activity codeword triggers, "NSA" is probably such a trigger), and the gps data is co-related onto a map that automatically picks out suspicious activities, and even tags them according to probability... the whole spectrum of offenses from petty trespassing to adultery to drug dealing and terrorism. Not saying the local police cannot do this, or the phone company can make a deal with the police (money goes to US obviously) but the NSA is particularly interested in saving geotagged and versioned gibberish from all around the world, not just their own country. So if you take a picture of a cat under a car in Ouagadougou, NSA knows seconds later, or as soon as you go to a wi-fi area, or in a particular 30 minute window, or the picture slowly appears on their screens pixel by pixel over the course of the day (we dont know which yet). Later, when your friend saves the picture of the cat from your dp because it looks cute, the NSA servers get that too as soon as your friend goes to a wi-fi area, or the same 30 minute window, or you know, the same picture in square format appears pixel by pixel on a screen next to the one streaming your pics over the course of days.
plus, because they can do all this, they also must be better at tagging and organizing all your data bettar than yourself. So not only do they have a central database of all files every made in every format and every bitrate, they also have it with the local meta data and songs.pk tags and each illegal version of the file as well, coz they have well, everything. your own photos that you have kept in my documents> new folder > new folder > new folder (2), NSA keeps tagged according to date, time, context, and content, available for use by business minded consulting companies that are fronts for some kind of financial tomfoolery or other... I suppose.
Oh, plus they have all the nude selfies ever taken.
Now considering they have servers for all of this, and electricity for the servers. The secret to NSA is that they have figured out what to do with all the data. Like ALL of it.


please consider the difference between collecting such data (say turning on the microphone and recording speech or keystrokes) (wait a minute, is NSA like Lucious Fox?) form everyone and from one targeted individual. If they are taking data of everyone, there is security in that itself.
 

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
Just to be on gaurd and very much vigilante while transacting online. The most useful feature for buying is the COD (Cash-On-Delivery) method wherever and whenever applicable by online megashopping sites.
All of us now know after the NSA fiasco that none of us are private(or anonymous) in the world of web. Until and unless one doesn't post or comment any sensitive information(which might attract sec. 66A of the IT act),one should not bother about
such incidents. At least I am not to be perturbed by this heading.

It was also a news few years back that mostly all computer chipsets particularly from the Big Brother at West were accused of storing and sending user data.
 
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ithehappy

Human Spambot
COD is good, and safe obviously, but our ****ing unprofessional couriers take advantage of it. I've never seen a single product delivered on time / equal to pre-paid orders for COD orders. Of course there are people who don't care to wait ages, but I'm certainly the opposite kind of guy. As long as ****ing Blue Dart and such *******s are here COD is a no go for me.
The only thing I do while doing the payments is use Tor, but I know that's nothing! Still...
 

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
COD is good, and safe obviously, but our ****ing unprofessional couriers take advantage of it. I've never seen a single product delivered on time / equal to pre-paid orders for COD orders. Of course there are people who don't care to wait ages, but I'm certainly the opposite kind of guy. As long as ****ing Blue Dart and such *******s are here COD is a no go for me.
The only thing I do while doing the payments is use Tor, but I know that's nothing! Still...

Still you are careful in your usage of online transactions.
The courier companies are really f***ing in on their dismal services.
 

abracadabra

Journeyman
Xiaomi MI3 is secretly sending your info to Chinese servers

Well I have to admit people this is happening, and the company is on a negative track to hide its wrong doings!

I seriously don't trust the words of Hugo from this moment on!
I use MI3 currently and have encountered this problem, a fellow member on another forum helped to isolate what is happening, what I did is I shutdown my 3G data and enabled WiFi, and used OS Monitor app to see what connections were being established, and boy oh boy; I was in for a shock!

See the screenshots below,

*i.imgur.com/K9R37ih.jpg *i.imgur.com/UkCf0x0.jpg

I haven't yet signed up for the MiCloud as of yet though I received my phone a week back, cos I'm primarily testing this phone to make it my primary phone! Now what shocks me is the MiCloud service being activated automatically, irrespective of any rights of the user and sending info over the network to 42.xx.xx.xx. I tried to shutdown using APP OPS launcher, but simply MICloud doesnt exist there. I go into Settings> APPS> Neither here do I find it. This really questions Xiaomi's motives, on the whole even more shocking is the Explorer gets connected too :-x
 

Flash

Lost in speed
^ Nicely done. You should post this in gsmarena blog or somewhere to take it to higher level, for others to enlighten.
 

Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
[MENTION=2108]abracadabra[/MENTION]: did u try to turn off MiCloud using default settings manager as posted in there FB page?

can u remove MiCloud and then recheck?
 

josin

In the zone
oops.... this is unethical from MIUI. I think I have to wait for One plus one then......... Jeez
 

abracadabra

Journeyman
[MENTION=34930]Zangetsu[/MENTION], Did you read my post or just had a glance of it? I have not yet even signed up for a MI Cloud account! Then how can I even turn it off!
 
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