Windows Phone Tango requirements leaked

[coderunknown]

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After Android, its time for Microsoft to break the 10k mobile barrier. If you are in touch with the mobile market you'll know that the cheapest WP7.5 mobile cost 15k or more (Nokia Lumia 710) but to be a success, Microsoft must launch cheaper mobiles, below 10k is possible. But till now this is not a possibility cause of M$ strict hardware requirements.

Now with the planned Tango update this should be somewhat achievable. Heres what Tango brings to the table:

Import/export contacts from your SIM card
finer grained roaming options
download and update apps automatically through Zune
More number of preinstalled apps (double acc to some sites)

But the above are the +ve points. Heres whats we should have for lowend mobiles:

Support mobiles with just 256Mb ram (i see Symbian mobile users are have their palm on their faces )
Third-party Live tiles won't update automatically (there goes WP7's glory)
Won't be able to play videos with bitrate over 4Mbps
Won't let you manage podcasts on the phone
Photos can't be uploaded automatically to SkyDrive

Heres a few more:

minimum camera restriction is 3Mp
Streaming audio-video will be played with the quality set by default on the server (bad news for slow wifi or normal 3G users)
many apps won't be supported for less ram.

With these kind of restriction and Symbian mobiles showing getting close to 2012 (end of their life), i won't be surprised if 2013 begins with a 4:5 Android mobile scenario.

source1 source2

 

[Liverpool_fan]

Come on mate. WP7 is a "new" product. Comparing it with Android is not fair. Compare it with Cupcake and iPhone 2nd generation. Give it time it will beat Android and iOS.

 

[dashing.sujay]

^I'm actually waiting for that. Compared to iOS or Android (early stages), its much mature.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Interesting. But personally, Android's feature allowing you to develop apps on it for free without even having a real phone has totally won me over as far as development is concerned

 

[dashing.sujay]

^I hope MS will realise it in future

 

[thetechfreak]

well budget phones are the way go.microsoft should realise this soon.
but yes Wp.7 feels freah. i kind of liked the ui when I first used it. still havent managed to get my hands on one though

 

[coderunknown]

Come on mate. WP7 is a "new" product. Comparing it with Android is not fair. Compare it with Cupcake and iPhone 2nd generation. Give it time it will beat Android and iOS.

consumers doesn't care about new/old. WP7 had the potential to be the best mobile OS but thanks to M$ locking down the whole thing & placing some really stupid restrictions that also all over the place, i doubt WP will ever gain any appreciable market share. hanging to 5-6% is not called success. restriction are required but when you start to place restriction on the camera sensor size also, this is way too much.

Learn M$, Learn.

 

[dashing.sujay]

I agree restricting sensor size is too much, but if we keep in mind the current era of mobiles, 3mp is not a barrier. I mean, any phone over 5k comes with 3mp, and windows on phones <5k ?? It won't affect much.

 

[noob]

Problem is not the hardware restrictions, it is the SDK which is ALSO locked and hence no traction from developers. E.g I can't add events to calender programmatically.... seriously ?
2nd , you need devs 1st else your OS has got no value...and still MS charges 99$ for app development PER YEAR ...so every year you have to get your phone developer unlocked. Now that fee should be brought straight down to $10-$25 atleast for 1-2 years.

else nothing is going to change..

 

[ssk_the_gr8]

consumers doesn't care about new/old. WP7 had the potential to be the best mobile OS but thanks to M$ locking down the whole thing & placing some really stupid restrictions that also all over the place, i doubt WP will ever gain any appreciable market share. hanging to 5-6% is not called success. restriction are required but when you start to place restriction on the camera sensor size also, this is way too much.

Learn M$, Learn.

You have to understand the reason for the restrictions. They wanted similar fluid experience everywhere. Some Android phones are laggy, no WP is. This is the most basic reason for control. They are creating a brand. The WP experience. Understand.

Problem is not the hardware restrictions, it is the SDK which is ALSO locked and hence no traction from developers. E.g I can't add events to calender programmatically.... seriously ?

TRUE. The APIs are being planned to be opened soon.

 

[coderunknown]

You have to understand the reason for the restrictions. They wanted similar fluid experience everywhere. Some Android phones are laggy, no WP is. This is the most basic reason for control. They are creating a brand. The WP experience. Understand.

there are some restrictions which i openly support. screen resolution is one. else i am sure samsung will use HVGA screen on 3.7" mobiles. i am not sure if Tango lowers screen resolution restrictions but if it does, this steals the top spot on my prediction list. camera is another one and its solely cause Mango doesn't support dual core processor.

but the new restrictions for lowend mobiles will limit the OS's reach but even a 5k WP7 mobile (i doubt there will be any) should beat a 10k Android mobile in smoothness.

 

[dashing.sujay]

Problem is not the hardware restrictions, it is the SDK which is ALSO locked and hence no traction from developers. E.g I can't add events to calender programmatically.... seriously ?
2nd , you need devs 1st else your OS has got no value...and still MS charges 99$ for app development PER YEAR ...so every year you have to get your phone developer unlocked. Now that fee should be brought straight down to $10-$25 atleast for 1-2 years.

else nothing is going to change..

 

[ssk_the_gr8]

there are some restrictions which i openly support. screen resolution is one. else i am sure samsung will use HVGA screen on 3.7" mobiles. i am not sure if Tango lowers screen resolution restrictions but if it does, this steals the top spot on my prediction list. camera is another one and its solely cause Mango doesn't support dual core processor.

but the new restrictions for lowend mobiles will limit the OS's reach but even a 5k WP7 mobile (i doubt there will be any) should beat a 10k Android mobile in smoothness.

can you be a little clear ? How is camera restrictions related to dual core ?

2nd , you need devs 1st else your OS has got no value...and still MS charges 99$ for app development PER YEAR ...so every year you have to get your phone developer unlocked. Now that fee should be brought straight down to $10-$25 atleast for 1-2 years.

else nothing is going to change..

Its there for quality control so that we don't have a thousand fart apps like android

.they want only serious developers in the marketplace

 

[vamsi_krishna]

The first thing I need in tango is... Facebook chat like integration for Google chat. This is very important considering that all the IM apps in WP basically suck.

 

[noob]

The first thing I need in tango is... Facebook chat like integration for Google chat. This is very important considering that all the IM apps in WP basically suck.

+1 and this is because of core OS architecture which says "you can have only 1 app running at time and others go in paused state". background tasks are there but it is also bound to run only for every 30 min.
So unless this changes, forget about fluid IM exp like we have on BBM or Android.
E.g same IM+ app works great on Android and sucks on WP.

Apple on the other hand almost same restrictions(guess who copied/inspired from whom ), How is IM exp on iDevices ?

Also Tango is meant for supporting hardware with low specs. So expect whatever you want from next "Apollo" update(2013). And this slow OS release cycle is gonna hurt MS badly.

 

[dashing.sujay]

^How does apple manages it?

 

[vamsi_krishna]

This might be fake.. but read this couple of days ago.

Leak! Skype and Google Plus to arrive with Tango! | WMPoweruser

 

[noob]

100% fake...I think there is no official Gtalk app on iOS too. So dont expect it on WP either.
My IM exp on WinMo 6.5 was 10x better than current WP

 

[coderunknown]

can you be a little clear ? How is camera restrictions related to dual core ?

correct me if i am wrong but to capture 1080p video you need a dual core processor. so all WP7 mobiles can only (& must according to M$) do 720p pixel video recording.

Its there for quality control so that we don't have a thousand fart apps like android

most apps in Android sucks even official ones.
if you use the FB app in Android you'll know. its slow, laggy and half the stuff doesn't work correctly. and its one of the apps responsible for draining battery.

+1 and this is because of core OS architecture which says "you can have only 1 app running at time and others go in paused state".

suppose i am downloading a file and open up say some notepad type app, what will happen to the download? according to your explanation the download should be paused. is it so? i haven't used any WP so can't comment on this

background tasks are there but it is also bound to run only for every 30 min.
So unless this changes, forget about fluid IM exp like we have on BBM or Android.
E.g same IM+ app works great on Android and sucks on WP.

so this should mean better battery life, isn't? Android have at least 4-5 services running at any given time.

NOTE: So the first Tango mobile from Nokia's stable will be Nokia Lumia 610? according to rumors specs will be as everyone expected. 3.5" screen, 256Mb ram, 3.2Mp camera.

some specs are wrong in the link i posted. but as its yet to be announced, who knows.

 

[pramudit]

-1 for this f***ing facebook android app...doesnt work half of the time and even loading news feed takes atleast half min.... thats why i use opera mini... fb pages open like in just 3sec on it....