Why Microsoft should fear Apple -Scot Finnie

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aryayush

aryayush

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shantanu_webmaster said:
who so ever posted the article shoudl mind his language.. that person is a JACKASS
John Gruber has a highly respected opinion blog called Daring Fireball. And he has this trademark sort of thing where he declares people who say stupid things as jackasses. Rob Enderle and John Dvorak has been honoured with the "jackass of the week" title a lot of times. It is not something offensive and he only awards this title when someone deserves it.

Bill Gates, with his stupid lies in that interview, deserved a lot harsher criticism than he faced. And before you go declaring that a highly intellectual person like John Gruber is a jackass, you should look at where you stand before him. And that is nowhere.

Bill Gates is a respectable person and he is a role model for aspiring entrepreneurs all over the world. But that does not give him the right to say whatever he deems appropriate in a public interview.
 

gxsaurav

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aryayush said:
Yes, he doesn't because he makes up most of whatever he posts out of thin air, so it is no surprise that he never has any evidence for any of it.

BTW, that whole article is written by John Gruber, not by me. I have just copy-pasted it.
Thread reported, Just like always you have nothing proper to post so you have started personal comments. About posts out of thin air....i would like to ask all forum members, who said these lines
arya said:
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The idiots were stuck in their own world and will continue doing so if they take their advice from the wrong sources.
Why is it, that in every thread that you start, u get defeted & come to personal comments like calling the users of Other OS, Donkeys & horses. About evidence, well....I write only from what I know. Not from what other think....

Some more lame comments

nepcker said:
Aero is copied from Aqua
a GUI is a GUI is a GUI. There are only a few methods to do some thing. Apple was an idiot to patent a GUI & sue MS for "Look & Feel". i mean comon, sometimes an idea is so simple that it comes to many people at once. Remember, 1994, stardock "Tab Launchpad" which gave steve jobs the idea of Dock

About copy pasting other blogs or articles said by other people. Well....why don't you talk about your own experience just like I do.
^^ arre shatanu unki jalti hai yaar :wink: jealousy
100 take ki baat :D....Steve Jobs could have been the worlds richest man, but just due to his un-necessary arrogence he is not. Bill Gates on the other hand is straight forward & knows how to collaborate & run a bussiness.

lets leave it arya ... ur happy with ur mac, gx is happy with his windows ... its a never ending debate ... i am sure neither jobs or gates is aware who copied what form whom ... its so damn jumbled
Rahne de yaar, I have told him many times to stick to what he has...& not to start posts like this in which he gets pwned himself & comes down to personal comments. Act mature arya, we all know how much "Mac genius" u r, sirf mac ke hi geius ho....aur kisi cheez ke nahi. You & nepcker litrally act like walking Apple Salesman or viral marketers. You 2 do deserve a job in Apple for best viral marketing. :D

Last time this happend, my old ID got banned due to arya, then my old ID got deleted due to andy
 
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aryayush

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Through no fault of your own, I am sure. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I just posted again to show you that we do indeed have screenshots of the Star UI and it is proof that Apple implemented a lot of their own technology into the basic concept taken from Xerox. A lot of Xerox engineers also joined Apple.

I did not expect you to pay attention to John Gruber's post and you didn't. You can tell others that I am wrong and maybe a few people will believe you but I am not sure you'll be very eager to challenge the likes of Gruber.

I hope this is my last post in this pointless thread. The first post and anandk's comments were not pointless, nor were they flamebait, but then you show up each time and spoil the party with posts that are best described as toxic waste. Thanks for ruining yet another thread!
 

gxsaurav

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I did not expect you to pay attention to John Gruber's post and you didn't. You can tell others that I am wrong and maybe a few people will believe you but I am not sure you'll be very eager to challenge the likes of Gruber.
Obviously, why should I challange him. I don't come in the catagory of blind followers who are loyal to one brand only.

I hope this is my last post in this pointless thread. The first post and anandk's comments were not pointless, nor were they flamebait, but then you show up each time and spoil the party with posts that are best described as toxic waste. Thanks for ruining yet another thread!
Mark my words, you started this thread yourself, u made it a fight club yourself, & you will start another thread like this soon. Just follow what mav3, I & so many other users have been saying for once. Stop acting arrogent. Everyone who took part in this thread knows who started personal comments (again), who act like a fanboy & who mocks others & calls them donkeys when he has nothing proper to speak about.

Even I can copy paste many such articles, but if I was to follow each & every article blindly then there would be no difference between me & macboys. We PC users try to learn things, we do thing the way we want to....we don't do things the way a company wants us to with there hardware.

In the end, we come to conclusion that MS has nothing to fear from Apple so far. Apple is good, but not in a position to threaten MS, Linux infact is in such position due to it's openness (like it can install on same hardware config as windows & is free)
 

shantanu

Technomancer
aryayush said:
John Gruber has a highly respected opinion blog called Daring Fireball. And he has this trademark sort of thing where he declares people who say stupid things as jackasses. Rob Enderle and John Dvorak has been honoured with the "jackass of the week" title a lot of times. It is not something offensive and he only awards this title when someone deserves it.

Bill Gates, with his stupid lies in that interview, deserved a lot harsher criticism than he faced. And before you go declaring that a highly intellectual person like John Gruber is a jackass, you should look at where you stand before him. And that is nowhere.

Bill Gates is a respectable person and he is a role model for aspiring entrepreneurs all over the world. But that does not give him the right to say whatever he deems appropriate in a public interview.

hey ARYA!!! EVEN now you should mind your language.. i never say anything that doesnt mean that you can say anything for Bill gates... you say that JOHN GRUBBER is respectable person... so BILL GATES is MORE RESPECTABLE Then him.. remember that.. and how can you even dare to say these comment that he shoudl have got more harsher comments... Arya... mind your language....

you say i should look where i stand... and what about you.. i wont sit quite after these comments for such a respectable person.. what you think where you stand to decide what bill gates should have got... who are you in this case . you know one thing you destroy your impression yourself.. dont do that...

john grubber didnt post this article in www.thinkdigit.com\forum but you did... so here you are responsible for that.. isnt this true.. so you must have deleted the abuive words before posting.. but you didnt even read what he wrote... my GOD... its just DISGUSTING man... think about it and NOW YOU CHILL
 
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gxsaurav

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Bill Gates, with his stupid lies in that interview, deserved a lot harsher criticism than he faced. And before you go declaring that a highly intellectual person like John Gruber is a jackass, you should look at where you stand before him. And that is nowhere.
Bill Gates is the reason that you are sitting in your home, writing this post using a personal computer. If he wasn't here with Windows & Microsoft, Apple would have never made a switch to Intel & would be over over-charging for their products instead of over-charging. He made computing popular & easy enough for general public. Where was Apple before Windows 95? how much was it used? Before MacOX 10.0 & iPod who used Apple anyway in general homes & offices? I don't need to write a post of the sorry state of Macintosh System 7 & 9 again here.

Ya, true. We stand nowhere in front of John Grubber or Stave Jobs or Bill Gates, but do u or Steve Jobs or John grubber stand somewhere, in front of Bill Gates? He is the man who made computing such easy for everyone in this world. Microsoft makes standards out there whether it is an OS, a video format (.avi) or an image format (.tiff, .tga) or office documents (.doc, .ppt., .xls). They are the standard in computing & yeah, you can criticize MS for their mistakes or flaw, but calling them stupid & liar while calling Apple & Steve Jobs the messiah is indeed stupid.
 
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dIgItaL_BrAt

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Everyone flames Vista (and Microsoft in general) for being infested with DRM,while Apple infact is the biggest proponent of DRM (fairplay,anyone??).Also Apple has to code their software for a fixed set of around 20 hardware components,while Microsoft has to support a myriad number of hardware combinations,and they're doing a pretty decent job at it.So in the end it all boils down to personal choice.Use the OS that you are most adept in.There's no point in being a fanboy.
 
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gxsaurav

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So in the end it all boils down to personal choice.Use the OS that you are most adept in.There's no point in being a fanboy.

Are yeh log mane tab na, they always start such flameish threads. Macboys act like Mac is the holy grail of OS out there. We are forced to make things clear here which when we "Other" OS users do, are called & abused by them.
 

iMav

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nepcker said:
Aero is copied from Aqua
... how many different types of remote controls can u have ... a remote control is standard ... it has to have channel changing buttons, volume control same way as gx said a GUI is a GUI there is nothing like copying in it ...

all u can change in a remote is the positions of the buttons same way minor changes in both GUIs are there

gx said:
Microsoft makes standards out there whether it is an OS, a video format (.avi) or an image format (.tiff, .tga) or office documents (.doc, .ppt., .xls). They are the standard in computing & yeah, you can criticize MS for their mistakes or flaw, but calling them stupid & liar while calling Apple & Steve Jobs the messiah is indeed stupid.
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FatBeing

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@gx and arya:

Saurav, I've deleted your clone IDs. Any attempt to create more will cause me to delete this one as well.

Both of you: You have been miserabled for a reason; you will repsect your ban period (2 weeks) and go get a life or something. Do NOT create duplicate IDs. You don't want to piss off two admins.
 

tarey_g

Hanging, since 2004..
FatBeing said:
Both of you: You have been miserabled for a reason; you will repsect your ban period (2 weeks) and go get a life or something. Do NOT create duplicate IDs. You don't want to piss off two admins.

Same conclusion of the debate , 2 members in shameful misery. If anyone was really learning from these type of discussions , then the conclusion would be different everytime.
 

Pathik

Google Bot
yea Gx and Arya... use the OS u want... dont turn every topic into a fight...
this was supposed to be a news article but u people turned it into a fight club issue..
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
but i find these topics very informative cause at their aggressive best both arya (earlier andy who now refrains as he is a mod) and gx come with very informative posts about the features, history and differences between both OSes
 

anandk

Distinguished Member
if everyone agreed on everything, the world would be a dull place to live in !

but yes ...

one must learn to disagree agreeably ...:D
 

Pathik

Google Bot
mAV3 said:
but i find these topics very informative cause at their aggressive best both arya (earlier andy who now refrains as he is a mod) and gx come with very informative posts about the features, history and differences between both OSes
yup exactly.. Same here.. And rite said anand :)
 

goobimama

 Macboy
^^ exactly. If it weren't for these constant fights, the forums become a very boring place. The most active threads are where there is some kind of dispute.
 

mediator

Technomancer
I dont understand. First, authorities here dont enlighten others with their knowledge on any subject. Then they don't even post any news stuff. Then they dont even take part in discussions. Then they say they dont have time to read long "rants". And then they take very harsh measures like banning,miserabling which is too easy for them. I dont understand why can't they just atleast give a warning or close the thread! I feel bad for gx n arya! :sad:

I hope atleast constructive criticism is heard here!
 
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