Where to get C++

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navjotjsingh

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Our school goes by CBSE and till 2002, Windows was not required/part of the syllabus so our school's PC always remained on DOS. See the cost saving. :D
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
max_demon said:
:mad:No , i m in 9th and in my school they are teaching us with ancient book of Word 2000

i started learning C by myself now :)
Then i recommend that you start out with C# or Java which are much much more logical n better n with them you can concentrate more on your programming skills rather than spending time with petty stuff(read string handling as arrays)
 

Pathik

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i wd say that kids interested in computers shd be taught languages like c,c++,java,c#,vb,php,sql etc in school itself.. Instead of useless stuff like evs,geography,history nd stuff..
My schooling (like many others) was a waste acc to me..
 

Garbage

God of Mistakes...
^^ NEVER !!!

u use that knowledge anyhow in your life. Those subjects never waste of time !!!
 

raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
^^ those subjects r a waste of time.....where do u use history , geo,etc....bas apne baccho ko padane ke kaam aayega......
@pathiks..... ya dude...... i agree with u.....
 

max_demon

IM AS MAD AS HELL!!
+1 for patiks and shrish .
what i think is that the students should be taught subjects which they need practically need in future .

for example maths , the students must have more subjects in maths and science .
.like , the student may choose his path from std 1st only .!

the syllebus must be like this

1st basic computing/hardware
2nd input/output , logo
3rd Basic, DOS
4th Windows,internet,www, gaming
5th advanced hardware , networking , photoshop
6th HTML , VB
7th C,C++
8th ASP.net , java ,Oracle
9th Hacking, advance java (must have homework like , make distro in 5 days and show)

10th Chip level repairing , making commercial software , making OSes other than linux , developing games .

Survival of the fittest
 

Garbage

God of Mistakes...
So, u think INDIA must produce all IT students.
How could only IT mans live in world dear ??? We also need History / geography persons @!!!
 

Faun

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Yeah all subjects are equally good, its a matter of liking that distorts ur perception.

Everything u ever learned pays off some day.
For what purpose will u use programming if u dont know the practical scenario for which u are making ur project/programs

for example ang GIS system needs an understanding of geography
Bioinformatics needs study of basic bio and other related tech.
Banking application needs knowledge of accountancy
prediction of future by any software depends upon the historical trends

and afterall learning all programming language dont make any sense since its like monotonous road u r walking on.
If u get to know C and C++ then u can expect to learn 90% other programming languages in less than a weeks learning curve.

max_demon said:
+1 for patiks and shrish .
what i think is that the students should be taught subjects which they need practically need in future .

for example maths , the students must have more subjects in maths and science .
.like , the student may choose his path from std 1st only .!

the syllebus must be like this

1st basic computing/hardware
2nd input/output , logo
3rd Basic, DOS
4th Windows,internet,www, gaming
5th advanced hardware , networking , photoshop
6th HTML , VB
7th C,C++
8th ASP.net , java ,Oracle
9th Hacking, advance java (must have homework like , make distro in 5 days and show)

10th Chip level repairing , making commercial software , making OSes other than linux , developing games .

Survival of the fittest

that will be the most tuffest curriculum ever, and its not practical in approach.
Photoshop is like an art that can not be learned in 1 year, its a continuous learning.

So where the other fields go, are we making civilised citizen or just mechanical robots that can do just programming and all.

Then its better to deploy robots. That wont be the survial of fittest but the rage against the machine.
 
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slugger

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shirish_nagar said:
So, u think INDIA must produce all IT students.
How could only IT mans live in world dear ??? We also need History / geography persons @!!!

i agree with u d00d, v must be exposed to all d available branches, learn what it is that they have to offer and only then would we b in a position to make a decision about waht path we would choose in our life
learning about history gives us the ability to appreciate our present and serve as a reminder to us to avoid following the path taken by our predecessors which had caused their downfall

learning abut geography gives us the ability to appreciate our physcal surrounding and be in a better position to understand the diverse condition that exist on our planet

on lighter note a geologist [geography] will know where to mine 4 silicon/copper and a historian will tell him where not to repeat history ;)
 

mehulved

18 Till I Die............
pathiks said:
i wd say that kids interested in computers shd be taught languages like c,c++,java,c#,vb,php,sql etc in school itself.. Instead of useless stuff like evs,geography,history nd stuff..
My schooling (like many others) was a waste acc to me..
What would then happen to things like GIS/GPS, localisation, music softwares and such? Those preparing such softwares need to know as much as possible about the concerned field.
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
We should Follow US/Canadian system where u study everythin till 8th n then have one major other minor subjects from 9th , so that you can concentrate on what career you want as well as having a general idea of all other subjects
 

Ron

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Zeeshan Quireshi said:
We should Follow US/Canadian system where u study everythin till 8th n then have one major other minor subjects from 9th , so that you can concentrate on what career you want as well as having a general idea of all other subjects

Yes buddy....

I completly agree with u..
This Sst is useless.....Studing History of India, Then Russia, Then Europe is useless ......................
Because I know After 2 yrs I wont remembver all this. dates ......

History hv made me mad...Lots of thing to mug up..................
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

max_demon said:
:mad:No , i m in 9th and in my school they are teaching us with ancient book of Word 2000

i started learning C by myself now :)

Yaa the Computer book is not up to ythe mark.....We hv Access and Html..........In class 10.................Our school teacher is teaching us C++ instead of Access......
It' gud but not ........becaude half og the class hv still confusion in Html............
 
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Faun

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It seems lots of schools going are talkin in this thread, even i used to think that till 10th.

U all will realize when u go to college.
 

Garbage

God of Mistakes...
Ron said:
Yes buddy....

I completly agree with u..
This Sst is useless.....Studing History of India, Then Russia, Then Europe is useless ......................
Because I know After 2 yrs I wont remembver all this. dates ......

History hv made me mad...Lots of thing to mug up..................

There is one famous phenomenon in OSS community, "Don't re-invent the wheel"
Just think, if you don't know, the Wheel is already invented, most probably u waste ur time in inventing wheel again....
HISTORY will tell you !!! History is not all about the kings and their Queens;-) It is also about their culture, their knowledge and their mistakes which you shouldn't repeat !!

If you only mugged history, then .....

Zeeshan Quireshi said:
We should Follow US/Canadian system where u study everythin till 8th n then have one major other minor subjects from 9th , so that you can concentrate on what career you want as well as having a general idea of all other subjects

Do you think that @ 9th you were clever enough to decide which way you should go ??
How many students you see around, who want to be engineer in early days and ended up with some bachelor degree ???
 

max_demon

IM AS MAD AS HELL!!
Ron said:
Yaa the Computer book is not up to ythe mark.....We hv Access and Html..........In class 10.................Our school teacher is teaching us C++ instead of Access......
It' gud but not ........becaude half og the class hv still confusion in Html............

our school computer does not have even windows xp or any linux installed :(

our teacher is primary teacher . sometimes i am repairing the school system .
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
shirish_nagar said:
There is one famous phenomenon in OSS community, "Don't re-invent the wheel"
Just think, if you don't know, the Wheel is already invented, most probably u waste ur time in inventing wheel again....
HISTORY will tell you !!! History is not all about the kings and their Queens;-) It is also about their culture, their knowledge and their mistakes which you shouldn't repeat !!

If you only mugged history, then .....



Do you think that @ 9th you were clever enough to decide which way you should go ??
How many students you see around, who want to be engineer in early days and ended up with some bachelor degree ???
Well all my friends had decided till 9th What stream they wanted to go into n many had even started JEE Coaching from 9th onwards .

9th Std kids are mature enuf(according to me) to decide what vocation they want to pursue .
 

Pathik

Google Bot
^^ absolutely... and any1 doing engg ll tell u what a waste the current syllabus is.. atleast in MU..
 

slugger

Banned
i completely disagree wit u

im doin my engg but was totally enamoured by what i learnt in my history and geography classes

so after 10th i decided to drop bio and instead took up geography [as i always wanted 2 study engg] learnt d most amazing stuff there was

so now altho my curriculam does not require me 2 keep myself updated on issues related 2 history and geography i still read books pertaining to those 2 subjects [currently reading Freedom @ midnight along with d Design data book ;)]

ya but i do admit dat how ur teacher teach u the subject does make a huge difference in the future as to how you percieves a subject
i was fortunate to have been taught by teachers whose knowledge and enthusiasm was extremely infectious and studying these subjuects was never considered as a chore by us

so if u did not find any intrest while studying these subjects, blame your techers for their inability to generate enough intests in you about these subjects and not the amazing subjects themselves
 
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raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
pathiks said:
^^ absolutely... and any1 doing engg ll tell u what a waste the current syllabus is.. atleast in MU..


true dude......
im studyin in m.u ......most of d subjects they teach here r waste....


tell me 1 thing........ i hav chosen i.t engg coz i was interested in it...... but why was i taught subjects like mechanics, engg drawing,physics,chem in 1st yr???? then again thr r many subjects which r no where related to i.t but they r teachin us those subjects...... WHY????
 
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