Where to get C++

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Pathik

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our current education system just encourages learning by rote.. But i didnt give in to.. And i m proud of it.. Also like u not evy1 is interested in history and geography.. I dont say that they arent amazing subjects but just that they dont interest me.. But i had to waste my time learning them.. Also at at this stage of my education (fe engg)i expect that they give me the power to choose my subjects rather than learning shitty chemistry and engg drawing
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
pathiks said:
our current education system just encourages learning by rote.. But i didnt give in to.. And i m proud of it.. Also like u not evy1 is interested in history and geography.. I dont say that they arent amazing subjects but just that they dont interest me.. But i had to waste my time learning them.. Also at at this stage of my education (fe engg)i expect that they give me the power to choose my subjects rather than learning shitty chemistry and engg drawing
Exactly True !

That's why i'm applying for US/Canadian Universities whose syllabus is lot better than even IIT(For CS that is) .

They emphasise more on proctical approach rather than just bookish knowledge , which we wil forget after a year or two .

I Seriously HATE Chemistry , n all engineering colleges in India teach , Phy , Chem , etc in 1st Year .

On the other hand , Look at the CS Course at UC Berkeley , they have 2 maths courses n rest is etreme computing stuff for whole year .
 

Ecko

Wandering In Tecno Land
max_demon said:
+1 for patiks and shrish .
what i think is that the students should be taught subjects which they need practically need in future .

for example maths , the students must have more subjects in maths and science .
.like , the student may choose his path from std 1st only .!

the syllebus must be like this

1st basic computing/hardware
2nd input/output , logo
3rd Basic, DOS
4th Windows,internet,www, gaming
5th advanced hardware , networking , photoshop
6th HTML , VB
7th C,C++
8th ASP.net , java ,Oracle
9th Hacking, advance java (must have homework like , make distro in 5 days and show)

10th Chip level repairing , making commercial software , making OSes other than linux , developing games .

Survival of the fittest


How can u imagine these things without basics like mathematics
 

Ron

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max_demon said:
our school computer does not have even windows xp or any linux installed :(

our teacher is primary teacher . sometimes i am repairing the school system .

Ru a school student buddy....Thats Gr8.....
 

raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
pathiks said:
our current education system just encourages learning by rote.. But i didnt give in to.. And i m proud of it.. Also like u not evy1 is interested in history and geography.. I dont say that they arent amazing subjects but just that they dont interest me.. But i had to waste my time learning them.. Also at at this stage of my education (fe engg)i expect that they give me the power to choose my subjects rather than learning shitty chemistry and engg drawing


same here yaar....... had 2 study those subjects in frxt yr...... they were nt at all interestin....... u get a better view of ur branch wen u r in 2nd yr..... but still there r sm silly subjects wich r nt interestin at all..... but still u hav 2 study them........ n nw in 3rd yr....... its what u shud hav been taught in 1st yr....

@pathiks.... u r in wich collg dude
 

Pathik

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i m in dj sanghvi mumbai.. And even my second year syllabus sucks.. It s about a decade old..
Btw @zeeshan, best of luck.. Hope that u dont waste half ur productive student years wasting time like us..
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
raina_rocks said:
^^^ dude d syllabus is same all over mumbai.....fr m.u...... but its better than 1st yr...
Sylabus in Canadian/US universities is interestin all 4 years .

i'm eagerly waitin to complete school in dive deep into CS :)
 

slugger

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Zeeshan Quireshi said:
Sylabus in Canadian/US universities is interestin all 4 years .

i'm eagerly waitin to complete school in dive deep into CS :)

in all likelyhood ud b taught by indian students whod have done der schooling from kendrya vidyalaya followed BTech from an NIT and now doing MS+PhD from US

so remember dat wat u r learning in US is essentially sourced from India :)
 

raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
^^^ ya agreed indians r most knowledgeable ppl.......
but u will hav 2 agree tat indian education system is wrong smwhr....
 

Garbage

God of Mistakes...
^^ How could you say that the Education system producing most knowledgeable ppl is wrong ????
 

slugger

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raina_rocks said:
^^^ ya agreed indians r most knowledgeable ppl.......
but u will hav 2 agree tat indian education system is wrong smwhr....
The Indian courseware is well-balanced and studynig which will lead to all-round devlopment of an individual

The problem arises in the teaching process of this course

Teachers in India are some of the most under-paid profesionals in our country (not referring to IBs and Public schools).

As a result of this, the brightest minds of our contry, who should in fact be teaching us these courses shy away from becoming teachers and instead, in their places we get losers who have no job prospects in a professional field and so turn to becoming teachers just to earn a living.

When your basic purpose of becoming a teacher is so flawed one can not expect them to teach us with the kind of dedication and zest needed to appeal to peoples senses. As a result their teaching indiuces boredom and an indifferent attitude towards a particular subject which somehow manifest into a hatred for a particular subject. In fact the hatred should be directed towards the teachers who did such a shoddy job teaching us the subject.

I was exposed to such shoddy teachers only after +2, when, on entering college, I was being taught by losers who had graduated from some God-forsaken uni and now pursuing der PG from some equally god-forsaken Uni. Mind you, my Univrsity is considered to be one of the top universities in the country, with MOU with a lot of foreign Uni and Industries
 
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raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
shirish_nagar said:
^^ How could you say that the Education system producing most knowledgeable ppl is wrong ????


its wrong coz v r nt allowed 2 study subjects of our choice in scools....... v hav 2 study boring subjects:mad:(atleast i think those were boring).........
ok tell me why r indian kids nt able to make diff gadgets like japnese kids????
 

Garbage

God of Mistakes...
^^ Bcoz we are INDIANS...

There is a famous sentence, An INDIAN is clever but a GROUP OF INDIANS is Headache. :D

The proper justification is that, we are weak in business from ancient times. Thats why... But take any good software and see the developer list. U get atleast a developer from India. Isn't it ??
Do u know, how much INDIAN employees M$ have ??

raina_rocks said:
its wrong coz v r nt allowed 2 study subjects of our choice in scools....... v hav 2 study boring subjects:mad:(atleast i think those were boring).........
ok tell me why r indian kids nt able to make diff gadgets like japnese kids????

okkkkk ....

Instead of giving answer, let me ask you another question,
Why Japanese kids are not able to develop softwares (or u may say do s/w projects) as Indian kids (yeh.. I say Kids.... U can find many of them here on forum ;-) ) ???

I think, now u can answer urself to ur question !! :D
 
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Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
Well the fact is that the indian Education System is Purely Theoretical(thereby promoting learning by Rote) and does not have a hint of practicality . It doest not promote the overall development of the child , but only wants it to remember things n give exams rather than stressing whether the child is actually learning(and not remembering) .

Well here's the motto of University of Waterloo Canada .
Tell me and I Forget
Teach me and I Remember
Involve me and I Learn

i Think our education system shoul follow this thought .
 

Faun

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raina_rocks said:
its wrong coz v r nt allowed 2 study subjects of our choice in scools....... v hav 2 study boring subjects:mad:(atleast i think those were boring).........
ok tell me why r indian kids nt able to make diff gadgets like japnese kids????

hav u researched the education system of Japan and China.
Its the most strict one, so thats the reason.

At least our edu system is not like a prison, its liberal to certain extent.

And wonder why u all r cursing the education system even though u havent faced the worst.

I hav studied from CBSE and by that time the books were much tough but now the syllabus has be reduced to a pinch. Every question that comes in exam comes from text books only now.

Now am in BE of engg(IT) and thats too frm the toughest university, Pune University (also known as Oxford of east). Even getting 70% marks is a big deal here.
 

raina_rocks

the man who sold d world
T159 said:
hav u researched the education system of Japan and China.
Its the most strict one, so thats the reason.

At least our edu system is not like a prison, its liberal to certain extent.

And wonder why u all r cursing the education system even though u havent faced the worst.

I hav studied from CBSE and by that time the books were much tough but now the syllabus has be reduced to a pinch. Every question that comes in exam comes from text books only now.

Now am in BE of engg(IT) and thats too frm the toughest university, Pune University (also known as Oxford of east). Even getting 70% marks is a big deal here.



dude i hav also studied frm cbse........n i hav also studied d old syllabus....... n i hav studied in an army scool.......wich was nt less thn a prison:mad:
 

a_k_s_h_a_y

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this thread has gone terribly offtopic........hahaha

the thread starter will be confused and wondering how and why are these guys are lost in their own stuff......

enjoy !
 
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