Upgrading PC after 6 years: 60-70K

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
As the title suggests, I will be upgrading my system after 6 long years.
Currently my rig is running on a Intel P4 2.8Ghz, single core, 1GB DDR2 RAM and 160GB hard disk. My laptop is not good enough for gaming except the FIFA and F1. And frankly, I am scared to run too much demanding games on my laptop.
So, my search for a desktop begins.

Lets start with the usual Q-A part first suggested by ico.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')

Ans:
I will mostly be gaming on this one.
I would like to play racing simulations like - F1 series and NFS Series
Sports simulations - FIFA, PES and Football Manager
Action games - Black Ops, Max Payne 3, Far Cry 3, LA Noire

Also I will be running informatica 9.5, OBIEE 11G, Oracle 11G, BOXI R4 softwares for learning purpose(no huge amount of data processing is required)

Apart from that, usual net surfing and watching movies is also on the to-do list.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.

Ans:
70K at max. Can not extend at all.

3. Planning to overclock?

Ans:
Now, no. later, yes.


4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?

Ans:
Win7 is good so far. Will try win 8 later.


5. How much hard drive space is needed?

Ans:
500GB is enough.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.

Ans:
I have a LCD TV which I am planning to use as a monitor.
Details can be found Here
If you have some opinion about this, kindly let me know.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?

Ans:
I will be using my keyboard and mouse. And also the TV as monitor.


8. When are you planning to buy the system?

Ans:
Hopefully next week.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?

Ans:
No. It will be done by assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?

Ans:
I am from Kolkata. And will be buying from Chandni Market. I do not want to purchase online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?

Ans:
I would like to have a mainboard with wifi and bluetooth (if possible within my budget)
Regarding graphics card, I have checked the AMD HD7950 model. I want your opinion about which variant to take.
Also, for HD7950, I would require atleast a 500W power supply. I am planning for Corsair GS600 (valued around 5.1K)
It will be good to have 16GB RAM (2*8GB) also
Cant remember anything else right now. Will update if I have anything else to add.

Thanks,
an arsenalfan


yup, got something. How far are we from Haswell? 2-3 months? Then I can wait. Else lets go ahead with a Sandy / Ivy based config.
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
Haswell, not before Q2 2013 AFAIK.

NoW coming to the config :

Core i5 3570K @ 14k
P8Z77-M PRO @ 10.5k ( Wifi and a BT Dongle can be added anytime later at less than 1k - mobos with these features just cost much )
CM hyper 212 Evo @ 2.2k ( Optional )
500GB WD HDD @ 3.2k
Corsair Carbide 400R @ 4.8k
Corsair GS600 @ 4.6k
Sapphire HD 7950 @ 20.5k
G.Skill RipjawsX 1600Mhz C9 4GB 2x 4GB @ 3.2k
CM STROM SIRUSS @ 5.7k

Total around 70k with ( not more ) with BT+Wifi Dongle and the cooler.
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
Thanks for the config Topgear.
If Haswell is that far, its difficult waiting for it.
One question, if I cut down on the cpu cooler and headset for the moment, will it be enough to get the 7970?
If yes, which one?
 

amjath

Human Spambot
With High Quality AA and AF on u get ~ 60 FPS on Sapphire 7950 Vapor X with boost which is more than enough for ur needs.
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Vapor-X OC with Boost Video Card Review :: TweakTown USA Edition

Remember the review is before driver update.
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
You might just about manage the Sapphire 7970 costing around 28k. Source

Great news. Let me check with Vedant.

With High Quality AA and AF on u get ~ 60 FPS on Sapphire 7950 Vapor X with boost which is more than enough for ur needs.
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Vapor-X OC with Boost Video Card Review :: TweakTown USA Edition

Remember the review is before driver update.

Still if I can push for 7970, I will go for it. Greed has no limits :p

Thanks for the help guys


so far the config is like:


Processor: Core i5 3570K
Mainboard: P8Z77-M PRO (I need to check this one)
Hard Disk: 500GB WD HDD
RAM: G.Skill RipjawsX 1600Mhz 2x 4GB
Graphics Card: Sapphire HD 7950 or the 7970
Cabinet: Corsair Carbide 400R
SMPS: Corsair GS600

Just need to finalize the graphics card.

Called up Vedant guys, got the below quotes from them:


Sl. No Component Desc Price Availability
1 Processor Intel Core i5 3570K 13350 Ready Stock
2 Mainboard Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3 29500 3 days time
3 Mainboard Asus P8 Z77M - Pro 11000 Ready Stock
4 Mainboard Gigabyte Z77x-ud5h-wi-fi 17600 Ready Stock
5 RAM G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL single stick 1450 Ready Stock
6 Graphics Card Sapphire HD7950 oc Vapor-x 21000 Ready Stock
7 Graphics Card Sapphire HD7970 oc 27900 Ready Stock
8 HDD Seagate 500GB 3300 Ready Stock
9 SMPS Corsair HX 650 6800 3 days time
10 SMPS Corsair GS600 4250 Ready Stock
11 Cabinet Cooler Master Elite 311 1850 Ready Stock
12 Cabinet NZXT EVO Beta 3250 3 days time

With this, I can get the 7970 also within my budget and also one dvd-rw. Looks good to me. What do you guys suggest?
 
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topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
yep, go for the HD7970 but if you want to buy a cheaper cabinet consider NZXT Source 210 Elite / Bitfenix Shinobi @ ~2.6/8 K - Skip the Headphone, CPU cooler buying and don't get a Seagate HDD ( reason : only 1 year warranty )

So, there you are all set and ready to sail ;-)
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
Point noted, thanks for the help.
Some more confusion, I saw somewhere that 7970 requires 750W smps. So, can I run the 7970 on a GS600? Is it safe?
oh, and which model of 7970 to be considered?
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
Final config :


Sl. No Component Desc Price
1 Processor Intel Core i5 3570K 13350
2 Mainboard Asus P8 Z77M - Pro 11000
3 RAM G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL single stick x 2 2900
4 Graphics Card Sapphire HD7970 Sapphire Vapor-X 27900
5 HDD WD 500GB 3300
6 SMPS Corsair GS600 4250
7 Cabinet Cooler Master Elite 311 1850
8 Total Without VAT 64550
9 VAT At 4 % 2582
10 Total Total including VAT 67132


Purchasing tomorrow. Thanks a lot to topgear for helping me out :)
 

skeletor

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Go ahead with Ivy.

HD 7970 is the right choice. :)

If possible, spend more on the cabinet. Get NZXT Gamma/Source 210 or a small level up with Corsair 400R.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Ya, get a good cabinet. Although you can fit HD 7970 with it but that will be too tight for the cabinet you've selected. Also in future if you get a big tower CPU cooler, there might be issues to fit in inside the cabinet.
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
Go ahead with Ivy.

HD 7970 is the right choice. :)

If possible, spend more on the cabinet. Get NZXT Gamma/Source 210 or a small level up with Corsair 400R.

Ya, get a good cabinet. Although you can fit HD 7970 with it but that will be too tight for the cabinet you've selected. Also in future if you get a big tower CPU cooler, there might be issues to fit in inside the cabinet.

Thanks guys.
I enquired about the NZXT, it will take 2-3 days to source it. So, was planning to get the CM Elite one.
Last night saw some pics of bundled intel coolers. They are horrible. Planning to get a CM Hyper 212 Evo. Will it fit into the cabby?
I cant wait anymore - need to get it all tomorrow anyhow :p
 

Myth

Cyborg Agent
Tough cable management and slight space issue in the CM Elite's. Take the nzxt source/gamma.
Take the evo atleast. Will fit in mentioned cabinets.
 

rakesh_ic

Cyborg Agent
my sincere advice is to select a good cabinet even if u have to wait for a day or two longer..

It will be really cumbursome otherwise..
 
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arsenalfan001

arsenalfan001

Arsenal Fan
One small update, called up Vedant guys to check the availability of CM Hyper 212 Evo and Corsair 400R. Both are available with him - so no issues at all.
Thanks for the tip guys :)
 
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