Ubuntu Linux Vs. Windows Vista: The Battle For Your Desktop

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infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
Zeeshan Quireshi said:
in Windows i can do almost all my tasks without using the Keyboard

and many times, its the fastest way too! commendable job ms has done by providing keyboard shortcuts to almost everything! :)
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
He said that he could do anything without using a keyboard. I think you misunderstood him. :)

Zeeshan Quireshi said:
also this means that Mac is not usable completely without the Keyboard , in Windows i can do almost all my tasks without using the Keyboard .

honestly , nepcker have u even used windows for a single day , doesn't seem so .
Click on any file and then click again on its name. You can then rename it. I am sure you'll need to use the keyboard even on Windows for typing out the name. :)

There is nothing on Mac OS X that cannot be done without a keyboard.

As for the DivX thing, there will always be some software that need to modify some system wide settings and therefore require an installer but it is true indeed that most software on Mac OS X work without any installation and can directly be run from anywhere. The biggest advantage is that you do not need to preserve downloaded installers in case you need to re-install any application or move to a new Mac.
 

Kiran.dks

Technomancer
aryayush said:
He said that he could do anything without using a keyboard. I think you misunderstood him. :)

Click on any file and then click again on its name. You can then rename it. I am sure you'll need to use the keyboard even on Windows for typing out the name. :)

Yes, most of us do this way.
We are also trying to explain that Windows Users also can do the same thing instead of that long then,then.. method said by nepcker. I said him the best equivalent of what nepcker does in Mac by replacing "Return" key with "F2". ;)

Now lets stop this silly thing and stay on topic. Ubuntu & Vista.
 
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gxsaurav

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aryayush said:
The biggest advantage is that you do not need to preserve downloaded installers in case you need to re-install any application or move to a new Mac.

Lolz....arya, you really do not know anything about MacOS X too.

dmg are installers, they are self mountable disk images, more like zip file. Under this zip file there is a structure of files correspondign to the folders of MacOS X system like

\etc\
\var\abc.bin

When u install a DMG it extracts a file & copies to the main System folder ~\ so now u have the DMG installer & extracted files. 2 Copies
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Zeeshan Quireshi said:
this behaviour is in Windows Too :D
I know. I was just telling you that you can easily rename files just with the help of the mouse, which you thought wasn't possible. :)

gx_saurav said:
Lolz....arya, you really do not know anything about MacOS X too.

dmg are installers, they are self mountable disk images, more like zip file. Under this zip file there is a structure of files correspondign to the folders of MacOS X system like

\etc\
\var\abc.bin

When u install a DMG it extracts a file & copies to the main System folder ~\ so now u have the DMG installer & extracted files. 2 Copies
Idiot!

DMG's are disk images, like ISOs. Mac OS X natively supports mounting disk images. So, for example, if you have an ISO image of a disk, you needn't burn it onto a DVD to use it. You simply double click on the file and it will be mounted like a DVD, read to use. DMGs are a little different from ISOs because they support encryption, validation and authentication. So the author can require a password for accessing the contents of the DMG and/or require that an EULA be agreed to. DMGs also retain any formatting you do to its contents and background.

But they are not installers in any way, shape or form. Opening a DMG file will never start a software installation. Never ever. It will only display the contents within. If it contains an installer, you open it and do it the Windows way. If it contains the application directly (and this is the far more common scenario), you can either choose to run the software directly from the disk image or you can copy it to your hard drive. Once you've copied it, you can dispense with the disk image. It is no use.

If you want to move that application to another folder, you can do it. If you want to give it to a friend, just give him the application and he can copy/paste it on his Mac and run it. Most applications work like this and require no installers. Now, please learn to STFU when you have no clue what you are talking about, as is the case more times than I would have preferred. :mad:
 
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gxsaurav

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Ever tried opening a dmg file using Zip or Stuffit?

They contain the installer, they first mount & from there your install. Yes. But you cannot mount a DMG directly in MacOS Filesystem as LiveFS

KTM said:
Now lets stop this silly thing and stay on topic. Ubuntu & Vista.
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
First statement:
gx_saurav said:
Lolz....arya, you really do not know anything about MacOS X too.

dmg are installers

Next one:
gx_saurav said:
They contain the installer, they first mount & from there your install. Yes.

I'm surprised you even manage to spell your name properly!
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
Well i know DMG files r disk images but i think they can be configured to autorun just like CD's r made to autorun . coz when i double clicked on DivX DMG it mountes it n then the installer started automatically :)
 

nepcker

Proud Mac Pro Owner
honestly , nepcker have u even used windows for a single day , doesn't seem so .
I've been using Windows for about eight years, and my mac experience is only about five years.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
^^^^

Ya ya, we just found out how much you & arya knows about Windows from some of your recent posts.
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Zeeshan Quireshi said:
Well i know DMG files r disk images but i think they can be configured to autorun just like CD's r made to autorun . coz when i double clicked on DivX DMG it mountes it n then the installer started automatically :)
I don't think so. If you use Safari for downloading the disk image, it automatically mounts the disk image after disk image and if it has an installer, Safari launches it and if it has an application, Safari extracts the application and deleted the DMG.

In any case, a disk image that runs automatically is hardly the same thing as an installer. :)
 

praka123

left this forum longback
I suggests :) Ubuntu as the better OS.although it will be nice if they by default uses the blubuntu(blue) theme instead of human theme.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
aryayush said:
Safari extracts the application and deleted the DMG.

In any case, a disk image that runs automatically is hardly the same thing as an installer. :)

What the...then how will I install again sometime? I will need to redownload the DMG.

Oh & behold another user of MacOS X on thsi forum, mav3 :D
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
Aargh! I would like to quote Draco Malfoy here:
"Honestly, if you were any slower, you'd be walking backwards."

1. Most applications on Mac OS X do not require an installer. There is nothing like installing an application. Think of a DMG as a CD full of Word documents. Why do you need the CD once you have copied the documents onto your hard drive?
Similarly, you can do away with the DMG file once you have copied the application onto your hard drive. If you need it somewhere else, move it there. You don't need to uninstall and re-install it like on Windows. You can even make several copies of the application and store it at five different places in the operating system or even in the same place (with different names, of course).

2. You can turn the feature off in the Safari preferences so that it will just download the files and leave them untouched.

3. Since it deletes the file and it ends up in the Trash, you can always retrieve it from there.
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
See. Right here. Right now.

Absolutely obvious proof that gx_saurav is a Mac hater (he claims to be a Macboy hater or whatever). He keeps ranting on and on about how bad they are and when he is comprehensively owned, he will never ever give credit where it is due. Just an offhand comment but no acknowledgment of the fact that it is a good feature.

It would have been no problem if no one cared for your opinion (like me), but unfortunately, some people do. Hopefully some people will use some logic and common sense when they come across such posts.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
^^^^ yup

If u wanna get banned for making technology section fight club then do as u wish. Weekend is over so i m back to work
 
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