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[legolas]

@legolas,
See? This is what we were talking about. Can you really blame us now?

You are part of the problem too. Not the solution. At least not the way I see it. I can't be more polite than this in insinuating. You know better. And I vented my frustration on seeing one cribbing over other person's views. I am no mommy. (Just kidding)

 

[aryayush]

You are part of the problem too.

No, I’m not.

Let’s just cut this discussion now. If I’m not wrong, this is the kind you were rooting against.

 

[SunnyChahal]

Just called up iWorld Business Solutions.Going on tuesday or wednesday.Time Capsuleis not available.How much does a 250 GB FireWire800 External HDD cost?And what about HP printers(wireless)?Worth it?

 

[cooldudie3]

Welcome to the Battle. Plz state how r they different?

Obviously, they have a different system and Mac has barely any viruses iand is more stable. Mac has better functions if u are working on graphics. I love graphcs.

I thought it was illegal to install Mac OS X on a com not branded with Apple!

I think iMac should be my choice. But I have other choices..

 

[aryayush]

How much does a 250 GB FireWire800 External HDD cost?

I can’t really help you with prices.

And what about HP printers(wireless)?Worth it?

Again, not exactly my field of expertise. I have an HP AIO however, and it seems to work perfectly well.

Obviously, they have a different system and Mac has barely any viruses iand is more stable. Mac has better functions if u are working on graphics. I love graphcs.

I thought it was illegal to install Mac OS X on a com not branded with Apple!

I think iMac should be my choice. But I have other choices..

Friendly word of advice: Never ever reply to gx_saurav’s posts related to Apple. Ever.

 

[SunnyChahal]

Is there any use of backup,i mean i am not such a fool that ill go deleting files like crazy and OS X is quite stable and i don't think it'll crash unexpectedly and I'll loose all my data.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

1: You cannot make a mac, which means ur installing it on a PC. The CD has a code that has to match with the mac computer's code. And since you don't have that code you cant install it on a PC.
2: Dell, HP, IBM are making the same kinds of computer you make!
3: Macs are so much more different than PC
4: Mac OSX must be installed on a computer branded with a apple logo!

Apple customers here are under the impression that any computer is a PC
But a PC is just a brand name for a particular computer
and almost all Branded Computers are called PC

Tell me, does a mac have any extra component from a standard PC ?

If I take an example system with a Dual CPU Dual GPU running on Intel SkullTrail, with a custom OS, why should I call it a PC ?

and Apple can use US laws to make installing Mac OSX on non apple computer illegal, but Indian laws are a bit more different.

You can't give a packet of Lays chips to a boy for 9 rupees instead of 10 rupees and tell him a pre condition that you can only eat it with your left hand.

its as simple as that.

How long are you guys going to keep on fighting over
1) Macs are the best/not the best
2) Mac OSX the best / Vista is the best / Linux is the best
3) Install Mac OSX on a PC LEGAL/ILLEGAL
4) Mac is/is not a PC
5) Mac book Pro is the best heaven made laptop available... Oh wait, it has another name MacTop or whatever...

Utterly sick of this fanboyism and irrational sh*t!! Seriously guys... this is nothing more than dog fight with keyboard!!

I have written about this in the whining/complaint thread... and I seriously don't understand why a good thread like BSNL query is in chit chat while this fighting thread over which company is superior (mostly its just fighting) is in the QnA!!!

you have completely lost it.
there is no fighting going on here
we are just discussing like intellectuals what a makes a Mac and what makes a PC and what makes neither of them, and also whats the product that offers maximum value for money.

 

[legolas]

we are just discussing like intellectuals what a makes a Mac and what makes a PC and what makes neither of them, and also whats the product that offers maximum value for money.

Its this misnomer under which most topics are masquerading lately. I will gladly play along!!

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Its this misnomer under which most topics are masquerading lately. I will gladly play along!!

the problem with you guys is that you can't differentiate between offensive and cultured.

I feel sorry when praka123 starts claiming every "shift from linux" technique to be anti FOSS and starts fudding about it.

I feel sorry when aayush claims every "buy this instead of a mac" post to be anti apple and derogatory to himself and fellow mac users, and starts advertising mac non stop.

I feel sorry when gx_saurav used to be(he has changed. thank god.) the guy who gets extremely provoked when something pro linux in a feild which MS had a monopoly in, like ability to run games better, etc was discussed.

because those are called fighting.

but here its just civil discussion going on.

 

[aryayush]

we are just discussing like intellectuals what a makes a Mac and what makes a PC and what makes neither of them, and also whats the product that offers maximum value for money.

A discussion we have had several times in the past and have always come to the same conclusion: it’s clearly defined in the EULA that it’s not allowed and by buying the software you agree that not adhering to the EULA might lead to legal action against you. The EULA is a legal document and is as binding in India as it is in the USA. Violation of a contract is a crime.

And, irrespective of whether or not it is a crime, discussions of this nature are disallowed on the Digit forum. So please shut up now and stop barging into a thread you’re not required in, unless you can actually contribute something of value.

In other words, spare us.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

A discussion we have had several times in the past and have always come to the same conclusion: it’s clearly defined in the EULA that it’s not allowed and by buying the software you agree that not adhering to the EULA might lead to legal action against you. The EULA is a legal document and is as binding in India as it is in the USA. Violation of a contract is a crime.

And, irrespective of whether or not it is a crime, discussions of this nature are disallowed on the Digit forum. So please shut up now and stop barging into a thread you’re not required in, unless you can actually contribute something of value.

In other words, spare us.

yuor post is exactly the thing I was discussing about with a friend a little while ago.
Thanks for a new example.


Love, Gautham.
Keep Appling

 

[legolas]

the problem with you guys is that you can't differentiate between offensive and cultured.
but here its just civil discussion going on.

A garrulous or useless discussion is worse than a heated argument!! Unless the other guy is open to hear your views, no matter how civilized or arrogant you are, it falls on deaf ears... you write the same thing and he replies back with the same replies as to why you are wrong and that is what is happening in all those topics when I vented my frustration before.

 

[SunnyChahal]

Man!You guys start fighting over the same cr@ppy topic every week.WTF!
I like Windows,Aayush likes OS X ,Prakash Likes Linux.This doesn't mean that we will go throwing our OS on others.Macs have good design and OS X is a great OS,so is windows and linux.The thing is that which one suits you better.
As far as installing OS X on non-Apple hardware is concerned,IT IS ILLEGAL according to the forum rules!Don't know if it is illegal in our constitution or not So,please stop debating on this topic or get banned on the forum.If you still want to run OS X on your PC then go ahead but don't talk about it here!
This is an endless debate and would never end.So,no use talking this cr@p.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

A garrulous or useless discussion is worse than a heated argument!! Unless the other guy is open to hear your views, no matter how civilized or arrogant you are, it falls on deaf ears... you write the same thing and he replies back with the same replies as to why you are wrong and that is what is happening in all those topics when I vented my frustration before.

An oftenly found habit in people it is.

There is something in people that tends to make them reinforce their own beliefs over others', often to an amusingly preposterous extent. Religion, Culture, Morality, etc are fine and age old examples of these. But you can't laugh at these or vent your frustration against these entities, because they are practiced by an overwhelming majority of people, and the reactions are bound to be hoistile.

I definitely don't deny that I myself am free of these "human" forms of behavior. Nobody can be free of these.

Anyway, lets discuss these topics elsewhere, least Aayush will be on my throat again with his "keep this thread of mine clean from your bull$hit..." lines. We are intruding on his private property. Atleast I am, according to him. This is apple teritory I suppose.

 

[aryayush]

Thank you!

Can we please get back to whatever it is we were actually discussing? Do you guys, cooldudie3 and Sunny1211993, have any more questions?

 

[SunnyChahal]

Is there any use of backup,i mean i am not such a fool that ill go deleting files like crazy and OS X is quite stable and i don't think it'll crash unexpectedly and I'll loose all my data.

Mine!

 

[gxsaurav]

Obviously, they have a different system

From the outside, it is a normal PC from Inside.

Mac has better functions if u are working on graphics. I love graphcs.

Used to...now PC is better then Mac for graphics work, state any. Let me know when you have 3ds Max on a Mac

 

[sakumar79]

@Sunny, irrespective of whether you are on a PC or a Mac, the Hard disk can fail at some stage... Therefore, it is always advisable to backup your files...

Arun

EDIT: BTW, @gx_saurav, even if there is no OSX version of 3DS Max, you can always run it on Bootcamp on a Mac...

 

[aryayush]

3DS Max is not the only software that does three dimensional rendering anyway. All of Pixar’s films have entirely and exclusively been made on Macs and we all know that no one knows about 3D animation more than the folks at Pixar do.

Is there any use of backup,i mean i am not such a fool that ill go deleting files like crazy and OS X is quite stable and i don't think it'll crash unexpectedly and I'll loose all my data.

It is almost assured, like 99.99%, that OS X will never do any damage to your data—like crash beyond repair or delete an entire folder of important documents for no reason whatsoever, stuff like that.

However, hard disk drives crash. It’s in their nature. It’s a limitation of that particular piece of hardware and there’s nothing Mac OS X or any other operating system in the world can do to prevent that.

What you can do, however, is backup your data. It is important to have a backup copy or two of your system, no matter which operating system and computer you’re using. Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard comes with Time Machine, an automated backup solution that backs up your entire system every hour, constantly, automatically and without any interference.

All you need to do is buy an external hard disk drive with a capacity slightly more than the one built into your system and connect it to your Mac. Time Machine will automatically ask you if you want to use that drive for backup and, once you click on yes, it will take it from there.

From then on, whenever you delete a file and want it back, make some changes in some document that you don’t want saved but accidentally do so, etc., you can launch Time Machine and fetch a copy of that file from the past, when it was undeleted or unchanged. Plus, when your internal hard disk drive fails (it’s bound to one day), you can have your Mac outfitted with a new one and then restore your entire system from your backup drive.

So yeah, backup is important and with Leopard, Apple has taken care of that aspect. To know more details about Time Machine, though there isn’t much else to know, check out Apple’s website.

 

[SunnyChahal]

Hey,i never experienced a Hard Disk crash in my life!I have been using Computers for more than 5 years now.
You mean that i need to buy a 250 GB HDD.How much will it cost?Any idea?