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rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Guys (Kolkata supporters), I'm from a small village of West Bengal. Krishnanagar, Nadia FYI.

I clarified my inhabitation to inform u that there are districts out of Kolkata too who are also getting affected by NANO effect.
U guys are fighting like only Kolkata lost the business. No, the whole state has lost due to it. No new investments are happening, even existing companies (some TATA company I guess, read in newspaper) and already committed (Salem group etc) are backing out of our state. This is not good.
To reform a state we need a new government. Now what is the solution in our hand with out CPM?
Mamata? That crazy woman?! She doesn't apply her brain (!) in any steps she takes. Her first and only motto is to protest CPM. Whatever CPM decides, she first denies it and then thinks . When she was allied to BJP, she got Railways ministry; all of us expected some new trains, tracks, stations but look what that darn woman did. She threw away her post and we are still begging. (People staying in Kolkata may not feel the same, but ask whoever comes from Lalgola, berhampore, murshidabad line; even the electrification is done recently though trains are not available still)
CPM? I hated that party to my core. But, when buddhadev came, I started loving/liking him. He was actually taking creative steps. He has done enough in 5 years what Jyoti Basu couldn't do in 25 yrs. but, he's doing "praischitt" (pardon my spelling, plz) of previous sins committed by earlier CPM ministry. He can take new(new bole to NEW) steps only when he finishes it(To do that he has to live another 25 yrs and add Mamata factor to it too).
Congress?! It just doesn't exist in W.B. Who else is a powerfull "neta" than Adhir Choudhuri for them (I may be ignorant, but tell me plz)
BJP?! They are even in bad state than congress.

Now, I'm here in Mumbai for the last 2.5 yrs.
Roads: Even in Thane most of the galli's are pitched or concreted. (Can thane be compared to a district of Maharashtra?). Minimum 2 lane road and maximum 8 lane road (G.B. Road). Well maintained with working street lights.
Water: In my society, I'm facing water problem. But my frnds staying in other societies tells they don't have any. So, I'm confused. But water quality is good. Iron nahi hai (My white clothes stays white :) )
Electricity: Well, very less power shortage. If there its regular and timely. (1 hr in the morning and 1 hr in the evening, u can adjust ur clock by observing that. i.e. subah gaya to sure its 9 A.M, sham ko gaya to sure its 3.30P.M)
Sewage: Ummm, sewage is the thing they are working. But the problem is only in time of rain, water clogging happens in some particular places, but this time they have deepened the drains even more. Lets c.

What kolkata/W.B is having or its USP:-
Society: I just miss that interactive community. Going to use some typical bengali words which could not find synonims. Those addas, theks are just awesome. A few hrs of those keeps me going throughout the year.
Food: No state comes closer to us. I bet. Chepa food yaar, pise hotel, roadside mousi ka hotel, hot and hygenic food gurranteed. none ever fell sick. (Kuch jaida ho gaya I suppose)
Freedom: We seriously live in freedom. U can say anything to anyone. Do anything, Stand up against any one. And, best thing is that u'll get supporters for that. Casticism is no more. Intercast marriage, I guess mostly happens in our state only. Even in a small village like me, my friends sister married to a muslim lad (Not hurting any community by this statement, just take it as an example). Rijuanu still happens but its rare (I think so).

Problem:-
"Aantel" (Typical bengali word used instead of l33t, origin is same intellectual): Each of everyone in W.B. is an aantel, so, we think we have a higher purpose of our life and can't waste it doing some petty jobs. If u caught us speeping, u r so wrong. We were actually thinking of world peace or something like that. And, everyone is a poet.
Lazy: Please look in to Aantel section.
Rebel: Too many rebellions. They protest anything and everything. Everything bole to everything. Amartya Sen has written one book "Argumentative Indian", I guess he'l very soon come up with a revised edition changing the name "Argumentative Bengalis". Eg. Mamata, Buddha, me, dips etc.
 
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dips_view

Broken In
to choto cheta
" I think you live in Disneyland,and the real world does not suit you very much!!!! you faced problems in kolkata .Yes its not CANBERRA or CALIFORNIA (though they have problems )and that is the bitter truth every other indian cities more or less.But you cant blame everything for that."

first of all above comments are not for you.But in your post u said :

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Comparatively, things are better !!!

Which things are better cast creed or religion based politics.please mention one political party in India that really think about people.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Thane isn't exactly part of Bombay. As far as water & electricity go. Well, I can say that Bombay is MUCH better than any part of India in both regards, when I say that I'm talking about the suburbs & town side of Bombay & not talking about New Bombay, Thane etc. ;)

As far as standing up against someone is concerned if you have muscles & know people in the area, you can stand in front of anyone & even sit on anyone. ;)

Freedom? I've never felt captive here in Bombay so I don't exactly know what you're referring to.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Why people always relate Freedom with Captive? :rolleyes:
I found people here more abide by rules, things are more systematic than in W.B. Well, I tried to put some sarcasm but I failed I guess.
Stand up bole to I tried to point those petty parties (even having been unknown for decades) who succeeds halting the city for any absurd reason. And, everyone supports them. If its a strike in W.B. then its a strike, ek patta bhi nahi hilega. I found people are more active and respects everyone's privacy and decisions (apart from new parties coming up, MNS etc. then too when Raj was arrested I was able to go to office and came back in one piece)
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Why people always relate Freedom with Captive? :rolleyes:
I found people here more abide by rules, things are more systematic than in W.B. Well, I tried to put some sarcasm but I failed I guess.
Stand up bole to I tried to point those petty parties (even having been unknown for decades) who succeeds halting the city for any absurd reason. And, everyone supports them. If its a strike in W.B. then its a strike, ek patta bhi nahi hilega. I found people are more active and respects everyone's privacy and decisions (apart from new parties coming up, MNS etc. then too when Raj was arrested I was able to go to office and came back in one piece)
Freedom means being not systematic? Freedom means driving like an idiot, changing lanes & cutting right in front moving vehicles? If that's your definition of freedom then yes, we aren't free. And I including many others like it that way. Of course there are those who pee & sh!t anywhere so I guess Bombay is a good blend of being free & not being free.

As far as bandhs & all go, Bombay is too hectic & busy in itself that it doesn't care. Bombay stops, India stops. Can't happen.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
:sigh: I quote myself
Why people always relate Freedom with Captive? :rolleyes:
I found people here more abide by rules, things are more systematic than in W.B. Well, I tried to put some sarcasm but I failed I guess.
Stand up bole to I tried to point those petty parties (even having been unknown for decades) who succeeds halting the city for any absurd reason. And, everyone supports them. If its a strike in W.B. then its a strike, ek patta bhi nahi hilega. I found people are more active and respects everyone's privacy and decisions (apart from new parties coming up, MNS etc. then too when Raj was arrested I was able to go to office and came back in one piece)
 

karnivore

in your face..
I don't think rhitwik was referring to freedom as in physical freedom or freedom to break the law. He was being more general and referring to the Calcutta psyche.

Caste-ism. Virtualy non-existent. Religious bigotry. Non-existent. Political consciousness. High (probably a little too high than needed). People are extremely friendly and will go out of their way to help you. A person from south india or north india can live his entire life without having to learn the regional language.

And probably, Kolkata is the only big city where a person can have a full meal for as low as Rs 10/- (I kid you not).

Nevertheless, Calcutta has much catching up to do on the economic and admistrative front.
 

mehra.rakesh

Journeyman
^^ very true ,, cant comment on casteism or bigotry was there only for a few days ..
but people went out of the way to help us ...
 

dips_view

Broken In
Ohhh At last you see something good in kolkata. Anyway you have your views, but when you comment on something Please Follow the whole matter, otherwise it looks like one sided
 

mehra.rakesh

Journeyman
^^ u will go bonkers when i tell u that i am an american
but lived in india my whole life ...

wat about the culture & tradition u were mentioning about .... u still havent shared it with us poor souls !!!!!!!
 

dips_view

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originally posted by mehera Rakesh...wat about the culture & tradition u were mentioning about .... u still havent shared it with us poor souls !!!!!!!
To
Mr Poor Soul (Mehera Cool Rakesh)
Share cultures or traditions with you is not a easy task.But lets try with hope:).

When you Sing our national Anthem (JANGANMAN written by Rabindranath Tagore ....for your help) We share our Culture with you. next time remember that.:p

When you Chanting at [least school functions] (VANDE MATARAM ..written by Bankim Chandra Chattapadhya...for your help) We share our traditions with you.:p

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Originally posted by mehera cool/fool  rakesh....and past doesn't interest me so dont bother about the freedom struggle .....

And please take the name right ... Its mehra.rakesh!!! CIAO

every breath you take in free india that thankfull to Our freedom fighters.
Though you have no interest in indian freedom struggle and what is the role of kolkata in it. but who can say my effort can create a spark in your frozen brain.:?:

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originally posted by mehera rakesh..u will go bonkers when i tell u that i am an american

man srop daydreaming. how can you get U.S visa?:-o

originally posted by mehera rakesh.... I wud rather prefer Mr.Modi ( a democratically elected leader )

your beloved Democratically elected leader still trying get U.S visa .:-(

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originally posted by mehera rakesh....  i do support hitler only if he minded his own way and if it was not for the Final Solution ..

Plaese help your leader to get that one :D Mr last supporter.

from
THE CITY OF JOY
 

mehra.rakesh

Journeyman
COOL ,,,, i thought u might have levelled but quite frankly ur blind foolishness is starting to peeve me off ....

u have ur culture superbly awesome ... i am a culture less nazi anti semi anti hindu anti commie anti fag prick "add whatever u want here " now act like ur culture and stop !!!!!!!!!!
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Guys, stop fighting un-necessarily.
Each of everyone of us too conservative about our culture and customs.
Thats why we had to undergo all those communal violences. We've only lost through them, gained nothing, no religion. culture was proved superior.

So, why fight for some virtual concepts.

@Prakash, pointing out to someone's culture and customs and asking to prove it being superior is nothing but hurting someone's belief and sentiment. Why do u do it?

@dips, dude, u r over reacting. We know what we are and don't need to prove. Cool down. Chill.

Can we come back to NANO? U guys are wandering in history and I hate it. (I somehow managed to pass history exam in my 10th, so plz, don't give me nightmares)
 

Choto Cheeta

Rebooting
Can we come back to NANO?

how can we if we dont get the point as why we lost Nano from WB ??

Guys, stop fighting un-necessarily.

Its a fight club and we are fighting to understand our own faults to find out, what made us lose NANO ??

Each of everyone of us too conservative about our culture and customs.

One of the reasons for us to loose NANO I think :(
 

lywyre

Cyborg Agent
For the spirit of Kolkatta and the contribution of WB to India : I hope Nano come backs to WB :)
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
For the spirit of Kolkatta and the contribution of WB to India : I hope Nano come backs to WB :)
Ya, we can only hope.
I don't think TATA can afford another 1500Crore (May be more at Sanand) loss to come back W.B.
They are already under a lone of 1trillion. Read in yesterday's TOI.
 

Ronnie11

Judgement Time!!
it would be unlikely that tata nano would be coming but i guess tata did promise that he will prefer WB first for any of his future projects...read that somewhere in economic times...I don't see tata shifting nano anyway...tata co. already exceeded 1lakh crore of debt...
 

mehra.rakesh

Journeyman
@rhitwick:: loan of 1 trillion Rs. but they dont have any problems in repaying it ... plus the loan is for all the Tata group companies which makes no sense at all... just a ZOMG STATISTIC ..

just in case u were referring to me in ur previous post :: i never meant that one culture was superior over another ... instead some people (HEIL HIM) are trying to unnecessarily hide behind culture instead of finding out what the problem is amongst us....

and fighting is necessary ,, hell its fight club !!! cud be more civilised though... :)
 
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mehra.rakesh

Journeyman
did any of u guys looked at the CPM manifesto ... its like someone b!tching about their ex(Congress in this case) after splitting up .Taking credit for schemes like Rural Employment Guarantee and blaiming congress for everything that went wrong .. some points i wud like to point out

1.prohibit p-notes used by FIIs,reversing full capital account converbility(helps bring foreign investment easily to a country), stopping fdi increase in insurance

--- oh great ,why not declare india a no investment zone and give the country a 'junk' rating on ur own ,, better still why not ask us to just roll over and die

2.halting privatisation of PSUs,scrap banking regulation bill,privatisation of pension funds

--we will take you back to era of hindu rate of growth and licenses for TVs cellphones and ipods just in a few months

3. reworking and not scrapping the US-India nuclear deal

--very interesting that those idiots are not saying that they will outrightly scrap the deal ,, instead they will put conditions that USA will adopt socialism ,, and Obama should stop smoking and then scrap the deal for non compliance

4. india -iran-terroristan pipeline..--need i say anything on this

heres the link if u guys are interested ::*timesofindia.indiatimes.com/CPM-Manifesto/rssarticleshow/4276384.cms
 
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