Suggestion for Processor & Motherboard Upgrade

[coderunknown]

thanks a lot Sam and Piyush for the info. do you think my current PSU (zebronic 400 watt) will not be suitable as it is used for around 7-8 months only and at present i am using another old one since last one year as there was a problem in it and i got it repaired (under warranty).

sufficient but not safe.

FSP is a brand name or something else?

manufactures & sells various PSU & also designs PSU for others.

 

[vidhubhushan]

thanks a lot friends. that was really wonderful.

just one point, nobody talked about new i3 & i5 processors. what about them? can't i go for them specially i3 2100?

 

[MegaMind]

i3 2100 is a powerful dual core, which also exceeds ur budget a bit...
Phenom is more future proof for ur needs....

1. What is the purpose of the computer?
A: General apps like ms office, internet surfing, listening music, watching movie and playing online zynga games

 

[saswat23]

i3-2100 SB proccy cost around same 6k - 6.5k.
But if you get i3-2100 then your config is:
* CPU: Intel i3-2100 --- 6k-6.5k
* MoBo: Intel DH67BL --- 5.5k
* RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR3 --- 2.4k
* PSU: FSP SAGA II 350W --- 1.5k
Total ---- 15.4k / 15.9k

By the way its a Dual Core proccy with HT, that means 4 logical cores and it will show as a Quad Core proccy in the System Manager too.

 

[rupankur]

i3-2100 and Intel DH67BL B3 available at SMC international

 

[vidhubhushan]

Thanks a lot friends. you guys are wonderful.

does hd5670 graphics card work on these boards? i feel i need to then upgrade the PSU to a 400W one.

Manju, you said Phenom is more future proof. what does this mean? if i use i3, can't i use it for 2-3 years without any upgrade?

 

[Cilus]

Thanks a lot friends. you guys are wonderful.

does hd5670 graphics card work on these boards? i feel i need to then upgrade the PSU to a 400W one.

Manju, you said Phenom is more future proof. what does this mean? if i use i3, can't i use it for 2-3 years without any upgrade?

Ya, 5670 works with these boards. Basically any motherboard having a PCI Express X16 slot can have any PCI Express Graphics card.

Manju is right about Phenom II 955 to be future proof. The reason is Intel Core i3 processor is a dual core one and performs better in single threaded applications. But now a days all the applications are getting multi threaded. Phenom II 955 has 4 cores and will perform better in a heavily multithreaded environment.

 

[vidhubhushan]

thats great buddy but isn't new i3 also supports Hyper Threading (no turbo boost) thereby making it future proof?

one more thing, new i5 has turbo boost but no HT. how it will then perform in a heavily multithreaded environment?

 

[saswat23]

An i5-xxxx proccy with 4 real cores is always faster than an i3 with 2 real and 2 virtual core.
But the i3 will be a good choice too, as its built on latest tachnology unlike the PhenomII.

 

[utkarsh009]

@op: phenom II 955 BE much better than i3-2100. firstly it is better in number of cores (4 vs. 2 phy.+2vir.). secondly, single threaded performance is almost the same. thirdly, p2 being a BE (in this case) can be very easily overclocked to very high clock speeds due to unlocked multiplier and can perform better in even single threaded apps whereas i3-2100 can neither be oc'ed nor does it have turbo boost so it would become obsolete very soon.

 

[Joker]

But the i3 will be a good choice too, as its built on latest tachnology unlike the PhenomII.

actually speaking.... Phenom II 955 BE > core i3-2100 in performance.

but core i3-2100 has less power consumption.

 

[MegaMind]

actually speaking.... Phenom II 955 BE > core i3-2100 in performance.

but core i3-2100 has less power consumption.

Not much...
i3 2100 vs Phenom ii 955

 

[utkarsh009]

@manju: in that case look at this: PassMark - CPU Benchmarks - List of Benchmarked CPUs

 

[MegaMind]

@manju: in that case look at this: PassMark - CPU Benchmarks - List of Benchmarked CPUs

It states,

Model | Rank | Score Phenom ii 955 | 112 | 3939
i3 2100 | 115 | 3886

So Phenom wins....

But here phenom is almost slow...

i3 2100 vs Phenom ii 955

Which one to believe???

 

[utkarsh009]

@manju:its simple: they almost have same performance but oced p2 is way ahead of i3-2100.

 

[vidhubhushan]

isn't as per *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/137197-amd-intel.html intel processors are better? so, shouldn't i go for then an i3 or i5 (new sandy bridge) with h67 board?

 

[skeletor]

isn't as per *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/137197-amd-intel.html intel processors are better? so, shouldn't i go for then an i3 or i5 (new sandy bridge) with h67 board?

Everything depends ON the budget. You can't really compare a 10k (1090T) processor to a 16k (Core i7-2600k) processor. Can you?

I'd say go for Core i3-2100 as AMD Phenoms are due to be replaced. Having said that, Phenom 955 BE will perform better than Core i3-2100 and will come much cheaper too. But still go for Core i3-2100 because AMD is changing the socket.

Every Sandy Bridge processor is impressive, but Core i3-2100 should be actually cheaper than what it costs at the moment. You have sufficient budget to go for Core i3-2100, so go for it. Then 955 BE also has a noisy HSF which I don't like.

It states,

Model | Rank | Score Phenom ii 955 | 112 | 3939
i3 2100 | 115 | 3886

So Phenom wins....

But here phenom is almost slow...

i3 2100 vs Phenom ii 955

Which one to believe???

Phenom 955 BE will be better in multi-tasking. 4 real cores compared to 2 hyper-threaded cores. Secondly, if you aren't satisfied with 955 BE, you can over clock it.

Another thing which you should never forget is, you are comparing a processor which costs 6.5k to a processor which costs 9.5k. More justified performance by 955 BE.

 

[utkarsh009]

@OP: i5 overshoots your budget largely and i3 is a waste of money. go for p2. dont think that intel processors are always better. till 2006 amd was the ruler. it was then that it overtook ati and will soon get back into the race with BD and later BD fusion. currently anything below 8k on processor means amd is the way to go.

Another thing which you should never forget is, you are comparing a processor which costs 6.5k to a processor which costs 9.5k. More justified performance by 955 BE.

afaik both of them are 6.5k and who cares about noisy hsf if you get better performance and an ocable processor. also why care about replacement. will you immediately change to ivy bridge if you go for i3? you will continue with it for at least 3-4 years. IMO definitely go for p2.

 

[skeletor]

afaik both of them are 6.5k and who cares about noisy hsf if you get better performance and an ocable processor. also why care about replacement. will you immediately change to ivy bridge if you go for i3? you will continue with it for at least 3-4 years. IMO definitely go for p2.

All right, I got confused with Core i5-2400 for some reason. Another reason to go for Core i3-2100 then. Why? AMD is changing their socket and Intel will keep LGA 1155 atleast for a while.

 

[utkarsh009]

^^well lga1155 is surely not going to continue for 4 years. op should decide on the basis of when would he upgrade next. if 4 years then go for p2 and if 1-2 years go for i3-2100 but then would you like to keep h67 mobo? i would have opted for z68 chipset or at least p67.