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mine is uniross quick charger...it charges 4 NIMH AA cells in 1 hour bought it for 1200

There is also a model of Sanyo Eneloop with 4 cells and it charges in 2 hour..cost 1800

Do these chargers have the features I was talking about (conditioning/refresh/charging/discharging etc...)

Here is the link to the site where the writer talks about "Management of NiMH batteries"

Batteries for AA-compatible digital cameras
 
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sujoyp

Grand Master
I am sorry I have no idea about all that...but my charger is certainly very useful and it have an led panel too...u can check the amount of charge left or done in the cells :)
 
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Aspiring Novelist
I am sorry I have no idea about all that...but my charger is certainly very useful and it have an led panel too...u can check the amount of charge left or done in the cells :)

Ok, Thank you.

Will the LED panel indicate how much charge is left when you put NiMH battery in the charger (like 90%, 80%, 50%)? I am asking this because some where I read that NiMH batteries don't have memory. If we put a battery which has 50% (for eg) in the charger, it won't recognize the balance left charge in the battery and charge the rest. When we use, the battery couldn't recognize that 50% and use only the last charged 50 alone. May be I am wrong, I think this is what I understood.

Is there any mode to charge is slower (If we want to charge the batteries at low rate)?

How about overcharging if we left for hours?
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
I think it wont show how much charge is left but will only show during the charging that how much charging is done

No option to charge slow

I maximum left it for extra 1 hr...it stop charging but slightly heats up :(
 
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Aspiring Novelist
I think it wont show how much charge is left but will only show during the charging that how much charging is done

No option to charge slow

I maximum left it for extra 1 hr...it stop charging but slightly heats up :(

This is the best I could find. There are two products (Super quick charger) from Sony with "Refresh" options. I don't know about other options like bad cell detection, gentle (slow) charging etc... Price is Rs. 2000/- and Rs. 1695/-

But it's not "Super quick". It charges batteries at max rate of 1050 mAH (2*NiMH). It will take 2 hours to charge 2*2100 mAH and 4 hours to charge 4*2100 mAH batteries. I guess, there will be no gentle charging option.

It would be better, if I can get it without batteries. I guess, charger alone would cost around Rs. 900/-

go for sony HX9V or canon SX220 HS

Both of 'em are little away from my budget (MRP).
 

aniket.cain

Padawan
Before you get any batteries, read the difference between normal rechargeable NiMH batteries and the Eneloop. With SX130, Eneloops perform better than other much higher rated batteries (in terms of mAH).
 
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Aspiring Novelist
Before you get any batteries, read the difference between normal rechargeable NiMH batteries and the Eneloop. With SX130, Eneloops perform better than other much higher rated batteries (in terms of mAH).

Yes, I want to buy Sanyo Eneloop batteries. That's the reason I am looking for a good charger with no batteries in the pack.

Do you use any battery chargers?
If yes, what is your comment on the post regarding "Smart/Intelligent Chargers".
What If I can't get such a charger?
Will I loosing something big on total life of NiMH rechargeable batteries?
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What would be your choice of battery charger if you are in my shoes?

Note: There are few chargers imported from USA with the "Smart" options from Maha/Lacrose. But it costs 2800/3700 (Just charger alone)
 
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Aspiring Novelist
This is the best I could find about battery chargers with "Refresh" options.

There are four product from Sony

BCG-34HRMF4N
BCG-34HRMF4
BCG-34HRE4K
BCG-34HRE4
Charger : Battery & Charger : Sony India

There is a product called ENVIE SPEEDSTER from IMS Mercantiles
IMS Mercantiles Pvt. Ltd.

And a product from YES INFINITY - YCR-A099
YesInfinity.com

Here and there I read some models which are Intelligent chargers. I don't know what does it means (exactly). So I am not sure about those products. It seems like they are intelligent enough to function between 100v-240v.

But I couldn't find models with the options like (We have some of the options in the above models)
Discharge
Charge
Refresh
Conditioning
Bad cell detection
Individual slots
Voltage/temperature monitor
Safety cut-off
Trickle charge
Manually control charging rate
...

SX220 is available on eBay for 14.6k. After applying some coupon, you can get it for lesser than that. 14k will be a good price for it.

Canon PowerShot Digital Camera SX220HS 12.1MP 14x Optical Zoom | eBay

I didn't know how did I missed asking you this.

How can I apply for some coupon? or How could one know the promotional code?
 
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Aspiring Novelist
There is a another deal from a e-seller called Timtara. 3% discount from MRP plus 2k discount coupon, final price 8665/-

Now, I have a doubt that how reliable timtara is?

Do you guys have any experience in buying with timtara?

Ebay# - 9595/- (Includes 4GB memory card + Pouch)
Indiaplaza - 8995/-* (Includes 4GB memory card + Pouch + Charger)
Timtara - 8665/-* (Includes 4GB memory card + Pouch + Charger)

# Best price
* Rs. 2000/- coupon.
 

aniket.cain

Padawan
Well, I have no experience with Timtara. My only experience with Indiaplaza was buying a Sennheiser CX200 earphones, which were fake. I never dealt with them again.
If you have a coupon of ebay, you can get it for lesser. For eg, I had a coupon which expired yesterday. It was 10% off, maximum of 1000. So one can get the SX130 from eBay itself for 8635/-.
Btw, you'll get the coupons in your mail if you are registered on eBay.
The sad thing is, sometimes the coupons of eBay are account specific.
 
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Aspiring Novelist
Well, I have no experience with Timtara. My only experience with Indiaplaza was buying a Sennheiser CX200 earphones, which were fake. I never dealt with them again.
If you have a coupon of ebay, you can get it for lesser. For eg, I had a coupon which expired yesterday. It was 10% off, maximum of 1000. So one can get the SX130 from eBay itself for 8635/-.
Btw, you'll get the coupons in your mail if you are registered on eBay.
The sad thing is, sometimes the coupons of eBay are account specific.

Yeah, I am a registered member of ebay. Let see whether I can get such coupon in my Inbox.

If I have narrowed down the model when I see your post (SX130 IS @ 8749), I would have grabbed it.

Hope for better deal from ebay.
 
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Aspiring Novelist
you can have a look at nikon S6200 also available only for around 8.5k on timtara with the help of coupon

It has no manual controls. ;-)

And I am convinced with Canon Powershot SX130 IS. :wink:

I am looking for a best deal. Let see when I am gonna get that. :)
 
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Aspiring Novelist
Hi!

Just wanna have a little discussion with the cons of SX130 IS with you guys. Red font indicates that I agree/understand it is a negative point. Black font indicates that I don't understand fully or I see no issues in that.

* Slow shot-to-shot time and continuous mode
* Very slow flash recycle
What if we don't use flash? (Obviously, we can't use camera without flash all the time) But when we keep the flash turned off, camera will be ready to take the next shot sooner. Am I right here?
* Sluggish autofocus
* Meager battery life with alkaline AAs.
But decent battery life with NiMH rechargeables

* Largest aperture is f/3.4
Most of the cameras have f. no. in these ranges 3.1-3.6. How much is the difference of 0.1 (3.3) would affect the picture quality?
* Some chromatic aberration at both wide and telephoto
* No HDMI output
SX130 IS comes with AV cable. What's the big deal here? What's the plus point of HDMI output against AV cable?
* Manually operated flash
* The low battery indicator starts flashing when the batteries have reached ~45% capacity
You SX130 IS users are still facing this issue?
 
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sujoyp

Grand Master
I am not a sx130IS user but can explain a bit the red lines :)

Slow shoot to shoot means the time between u clicking 1 pic and you taking 2nd pic..cam takes time to get ready for 2nd shot...continuous mode means when you continuously click the shutter button it continuously takes the pic one after other....I find this useless

sluggish autofocus means it takes time to focus on the subject...this problem increases in low light

Chromatic aberration is the bluish tint around the outline of subject...u can find it in dark areas

Manually operated flash is good thing...u can increase or decrease flash intensity
 
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Aspiring Novelist
I am not a sx130IS user but can explain a bit the red lines :)

Slow shoot to shoot means the time between u clicking 1 pic and you taking 2nd pic..cam takes time to get ready for 2nd shot...continuous mode means when you continuously click the shutter button it continuously takes the pic one after other....I find this useless

sluggish autofocus means it takes time to focus on the subject...this problem increases in low light

Chromatic aberration is the bluish tint around the outline of subject...u can find it in dark areas

Manually operated flash is good thing...u can increase or decrease flash intensity

Thanks Sujoy. :)

How about the black(font) ones?
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
ok now the black ones :D

Very slow flash recycle - takes time to ready the flash for next shot...I think u r right that if we dont use flash then camera will take less time...but this can be clarified by a user itself

An aperture value effect the low light performance...0.1 will not make much effect

u will need HDMI cables to view HD videos recorded by your cam...I think AV cable can not stream HD videos

no Idea about battery indicator:)
 
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