prasad_den
Padawan
I support mild moderation... Personal attacks and abuses should be a strict No-No..!! Justifying your argument with logic is one thing, justifying it with abuses is something else..!!
Should there be any moderation for the 'Fight Club' forum?
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Aberforth
The Internationalist
aryayush said:I do not know about vBulletin but on InvisionBoard, it is possible to track personal messages. But I think it is highly impolite to track others' "private" messages. I wouldn't want someone to moderate my PMs.
mediator, if someone is irritating you with stupid PMs, stop replying. I am sure they will stop messaging you.
Tracking messages could be done so that we know if our message has been read or not. Its possible both in IPB and vBulletin, in vB it is called 'read reply receipt'. And if PMs really offend someone it is quite easy to block them using Buddy/Ignore lists instead of whining here and there. It is better to carry an argument in a PM instead of mud slinging in public forums, if one is not mature to handle even PMs...well.
Finally I don't think this topic has quite to do with PMs, it's about moderation of Fight Club forum so let us keep it on topic instead of trying to divert it.
Aberforth
The Internationalist
aryayush said:
It does not exist there by default in IPB as far as I know. There are a couple of modifications (mods) available in Invisionize (a mod/skin site) which enable this in Invision Power Board and similar plugins ar available for vBulletin too at vbulletin.org. Anyway it is not really difficult to read PMs in forums, they aren't encrypted or protected in any way and a few SQL queries is all it takes to get them from the database, if required.
I have it in my forums and I use it to track and delete trolls' PMs from members inboxes (usually vulgar, porn, pharma or viagra site ads). I could not be bothered to read members personal convos as they are of no interest to me or my fellow admins, besides there are too many PMs going around and nothing too interesting if one were to bother reading them.
mediator
Technomancer
Thanx, for the suggestion bro!aryayush said:I do not know about vBulletin but on InvisionBoard, it is possible to track personal messages. But I think it is highly impolite to track others' "private" messages. I wouldn't want someone to moderate my PMs.
mediator, if someone is irritating you with stupid PMs, stop replying. I am sure they will stop messaging you.
I really tried to make friends with one troll (like I do with everyone) who has been whining continously since he entered here in "Feb 2006". I was quite surprised how he talked bullsh** initially about one of the members to me for his likeness for Mac OS in my PM. I felt like he wanted some kinda backup and was mass mobilising the people here against one of the Mac users here through PM. Then after sometime he started narrating his misery to me, flaming me again n again in my inbox becoz of closed debates between him n me.
I think the troll doesn't realise that his posts in PM were not a discussion, but continual of his personal insults towards me. I think he needs to read his PMs to me again.
Neways ur right! I'll put him in ignore list if he doesn't changes his attitude and matures up soon!
I think such mobilisation against a particular member through PM shud be moderated.
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Before discussing further on this topic, recall how many of you'll have reported each other's posts in the Fight Club. I am not gonna take anyone's name but many of you'll who have made a post here have at some time or the other reported somebody else's post in the Fight Club as offensive. If you'll don't want moderation then why report?
mediator
Technomancer
Well I always reported only when opposition did so, so that if the moderators read my posts, then they shud read other party's posts too and then decide for themselves.
As for reporting, I never wanted any of the members to get miserabled or banned just becoz of a debate. I'm sure that if I had made it a habit of reporting then many other's wud have been miserabled or banned by now for various and different reasons.
This section has been made for this very purpose to have debates and has been tagged appropriately => "thick skinned......". Its quite normal for some people to get personal. It happens in every other debate......read my prevous posts!
Thats why I say that there shud be mild moderation in FIGHT CLUB.
As for reporting, I never wanted any of the members to get miserabled or banned just becoz of a debate. I'm sure that if I had made it a habit of reporting then many other's wud have been miserabled or banned by now for various and different reasons.
This section has been made for this very purpose to have debates and has been tagged appropriately => "thick skinned......". Its quite normal for some people to get personal. It happens in every other debate......read my prevous posts!
Thats why I say that there shud be mild moderation in FIGHT CLUB.
Aberforth
The Internationalist
Looks like ignore feature does not work if I am not logged in. I wouldn't comment anything on mediator now, the members can see themselves his attempts on this threads to divert a topic to a personal vendetta and bitterness. For mediator, I request if he could provide any evidence of any of his accusations.
I would have sent the message below as a PM to prevent embarassment to mediator but it seems he takes advantage of my peaceful way of doing things. I'll put my personal message to him here so that he can make no claims or accusation as it is for all to see. And others please consider it a personal message not a psychological evaluation.
Why do you have to turn every thread where I post into a personal hate campaign against me? Can't you post like any normal decent member with good relations? Is there anything which can better occupy your life other than getting stuck behind one person who beat you in a debate? Is it that you have no friends except online which makes you feel worthless and possibly gives you a sense of pride and satisfaction trying to accuse and insult another person? Is that isn't called mental illness you tell me what it is?
I would have sent the message below as a PM to prevent embarassment to mediator but it seems he takes advantage of my peaceful way of doing things. I'll put my personal message to him here so that he can make no claims or accusation as it is for all to see. And others please consider it a personal message not a psychological evaluation.
Why do you have to turn every thread where I post into a personal hate campaign against me? Can't you post like any normal decent member with good relations? Is there anything which can better occupy your life other than getting stuck behind one person who beat you in a debate? Is it that you have no friends except online which makes you feel worthless and possibly gives you a sense of pride and satisfaction trying to accuse and insult another person? Is that isn't called mental illness you tell me what it is?
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mediator
Technomancer
Ugh! Why r u starting it again man. I didn't even called anybody's name according to forum's rules. Rn't u happy making personal comments against me in my mailbox that u r trying so hard here too? I had forgiven u for that too and didn't really forward the "nice" conversation we had to admins.
Why r u taking my name now?
BTW, I see u keep on whining about the no. of friends I have again n again. So, I assure u that I have more friends than u can ever have!
SO please don't drag me down to talk at ur level. I hope this thread doesn't witness any mindless drama uneccesarily like the rest of the 2 threads
*thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35377&page=24
*thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48377
Reading the above 2 threads is a must for everyone!
BTW, I have no hate against u nor I'm emotionally attached to ONLINE debates like u to keep on bothering others again n again in mailboxes. I like to be friends with people more than making them hate me. I tried to be friends with u too, but it seems ur ego is really tooo high to let u forget everything and start afresh.
Well, if the admins n mods wanna check about the "mailbox" thing then there r invited to check my mailbox and see how one particular troll has been insulting me again n again. Its not usual for me to save messeges in mailbox, but i have kept some particularly for this very occasion coz I knew the troll won't calm down and will further try to deteriorate the things!
Follow my moto => "Forget n forgive"
Neways, @"feb 2006 entry" I appeal to u again to calm down and forget the fights in the past. Why even rake up old topics in the light of new ones? So I say again, lets be friends and make that person, who uses Mac OS, ur friend too, like I made him mine!
I still don't understand why u hated him so much!
Why r u taking my name now?
BTW, I see u keep on whining about the no. of friends I have again n again. So, I assure u that I have more friends than u can ever have!
SO please don't drag me down to talk at ur level. I hope this thread doesn't witness any mindless drama uneccesarily like the rest of the 2 threads
*thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35377&page=24
*thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48377
Reading the above 2 threads is a must for everyone!
BTW, I have no hate against u nor I'm emotionally attached to ONLINE debates like u to keep on bothering others again n again in mailboxes. I like to be friends with people more than making them hate me. I tried to be friends with u too, but it seems ur ego is really tooo high to let u forget everything and start afresh.
Well, if the admins n mods wanna check about the "mailbox" thing then there r invited to check my mailbox and see how one particular troll has been insulting me again n again. Its not usual for me to save messeges in mailbox, but i have kept some particularly for this very occasion coz I knew the troll won't calm down and will further try to deteriorate the things!
Follow my moto => "Forget n forgive"
Neways, @"feb 2006 entry" I appeal to u again to calm down and forget the fights in the past. Why even rake up old topics in the light of new ones? So I say again, lets be friends and make that person, who uses Mac OS, ur friend too, like I made him mine!
I still don't understand why u hated him so much!
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Arsenal_Gunners
Human Spambot
^^You 2 were at large in both of them.Is this a coincidence?
Aberforth
The Internationalist
Maybe you don't understand when somebody ignores you it mean he doesn't like you. Like the thread here where you post but I couldn't care what you post .
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49669
Maybe you really need to think letting out your frustrations out by calling someone a 'troll' and referring to their join date (the person posting right above yours) and trying to divert the topic isn't anything herioc forget decent.
I am not whining about your number of friends, I'm actually shaking my heads in pity you hardly have any friends. Now you make me laugh...I don't whine. Your claim you have more friends than I do is a proof of itself how big mouthed you are. I am laughing my ass off reading your pathetic claim.
And don't worry, you will never be able to reach my level, your level is the earth to my sky level.
I am not emotionally attached to any debate online as I ignored you and forgot about it long ago, but seems you are now that you feel the need to call a person a troll and reference his date of joining to guide other members along with inviting them to join your false accusation propaganda. You couldn't tolerate the fact I have been ignoring your comments in so many posts.
And please do post any proof of all your ridiculus claims and please forward the mails where I claimed I abused you or tried to mobilise people. I don't care a hoot about your fake 'kindness' as it is all to save your own skin and spread your propaganda. You have no proof, nothing at all which would put me in a bad place, maybe they would make you look silly, but me no. Maybe thats the reason you keep muttering like a parrot instead of posting something of credance.
I really don't care about you boy, but your hate propaganda and repeated insults have piss off value. At least I can predict the outcome of your life, doesn't need an oracle for it.
For admins and moderators- I would have posted this personally in PM to keep this thread fresh but seems he thinks it is in my interests so I put them here for all to see.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49669
Maybe you really need to think letting out your frustrations out by calling someone a 'troll' and referring to their join date (the person posting right above yours) and trying to divert the topic isn't anything herioc forget decent.
I am not whining about your number of friends, I'm actually shaking my heads in pity you hardly have any friends. Now you make me laugh...I don't whine. Your claim you have more friends than I do is a proof of itself how big mouthed you are. I am laughing my ass off reading your pathetic claim.
And don't worry, you will never be able to reach my level, your level is the earth to my sky level.
I am not emotionally attached to any debate online as I ignored you and forgot about it long ago, but seems you are now that you feel the need to call a person a troll and reference his date of joining to guide other members along with inviting them to join your false accusation propaganda. You couldn't tolerate the fact I have been ignoring your comments in so many posts.
And please do post any proof of all your ridiculus claims and please forward the mails where I claimed I abused you or tried to mobilise people. I don't care a hoot about your fake 'kindness' as it is all to save your own skin and spread your propaganda. You have no proof, nothing at all which would put me in a bad place, maybe they would make you look silly, but me no. Maybe thats the reason you keep muttering like a parrot instead of posting something of credance.
I really don't care about you boy, but your hate propaganda and repeated insults have piss off value. At least I can predict the outcome of your life, doesn't need an oracle for it.
For admins and moderators- I would have posted this personally in PM to keep this thread fresh but seems he thinks it is in my interests so I put them here for all to see.
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iMav
The Devil's Advocate
y the hell is this thread even thr in the first place .... a guy who got banned starte this topic .... and tht was wen evry1 started saying tht no moderation shud b thr ... however .... u cant hav a fite without a ref .... u cant hav a case hearing without a judge ....
it is upto us nit to make any personal comments and also the mods shud understand tht u cant hav an interesting match without some push and shove banning is wat the indian govt does ....
it is upto us nit to make any personal comments and also the mods shud understand tht u cant hav an interesting match without some push and shove banning is wat the indian govt does ....
mediator
Technomancer
@"feb 2006 entry" : Yea, wateva~! Happy now? . Neways the link u gave, only have my post reflecting @T_Y_F's suggestion.
Neways from above post of urs, I see u'll never quite insulting me and be happy until someone backs ur post! So, I back it. Happy now? Can we end it now?
. Neways the link u gave, only have my post reflecting @T_Y_F's suggestion.Neways from above post of urs, I see u'll never quite insulting me and be happy until someone backs ur post! So, I back it. Happy now? Can we end it now?
Aberforth
The Internationalist
I am ready to end the fight but after you prove all your allegations and accusations against me. If you can't prove at least accept your mistake or else let members see for themselves what a liar you are. You think by making false claims you can discredit me, even in a forum?
I understand your concern but what surprises me is the total neglect of all reports or at least an acknowledgement despite the presence of so many moderators. It keeps encouraging thread hijackers to carry on and on in their insults and flaming campaign.
I hate to say the neglected attitude is what provokes me to ask the person to prove any of his baseless accusations.
aryayush said:
I understand your concern but what surprises me is the total neglect of all reports or at least an acknowledgement despite the presence of so many moderators. It keeps encouraging thread hijackers to carry on and on in their insults and flaming campaign.
I hate to say the neglected attitude is what provokes me to ask the person to prove any of his baseless accusations.
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