[Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15k

aaruni

The Linux Guy
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Suppose the following scenario:
I have two monitors and I don't want to game on both, possibly because one of the monitor, call it secondary monitor is smaller size.

So can I play a game on my primary fhd monitor (connected via gpu) and let the secondary monitor show desktop (Windows OS) with some other application like Telegram, IRC, spreadsheet (connected via igpu). Can this secondary monitor play a video being processed via igpu?

Is that possible?

In theory, it is possible (both processors can have different inputs, and as a result, different outputs. with two difference screens plugged into each output screen, you can accomplish what you want to do).

But, you'll need appropriate software (specialised software, or make-do hacks), which actually make your hardware perform in this way, and that will be a very hard thing to accomplish, I believe.
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Well, I guess this isn't a popular thing to do. So assuming the fact that dgpu will be powerful enough that I needn't worry about extracting throughout from the igpu, can I accomplish the same thing that is running game on one monitor and desktop and other application on secondary monitor, if I plug them both in dGPU?
 

aaruni

The Linux Guy
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Yes, but you will have to set it up properly. (extended display, and make your full screen game run in a borderless window, and control only one thing at a time)
 

ZTR

Cyborg Agent
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Well, I guess this isn't a popular thing to do. So assuming the fact that dgpu will be powerful enough that I needn't worry about extracting throughout from the igpu, can I accomplish the same thing that is running game on one monitor and desktop and other application on secondary monitor, if I plug them both in dGPU?
Yes
You can also use eyefinity to combine both monitors as one big screen also

Sent from my Redmi Note 3
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Yes, but you will have to set it up properly. (extended display, and make your full screen game run in a borderless window, and control only one thing at a time)
It's kind of obvious that I would be able to control one thing at a time. (Unless there's a hack to attach a second keyboard and have it control only one monitor, lol.) But I forgot about the window less feature of games which lets us have game as just another application. So game and other things can be arranged side by side on extended monitor.
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Yes
You can also use eyefinity to combine both monitors as one big screen also

Sent from my Redmi Note 3
I fail to understand how that is different than an expanded monitor. When I move an application it can be dragged to the secondary monitor intuitively.
 

ZTR

Cyborg Agent
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

I fail to understand how that is different than an expanded monitor. When I move an application it can be dragged to the secondary monitor intuitively.
Eyefinity is for games
It makes the games look at two monitors as one combined monitor

Sent from my Redmi Note 3
 

ssb1551

Technomancer
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

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My bad, I completely forgot that the monitor is connected to dGPU directly. Sorry

Thanks guys for correcting me and explaining :)

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Read my comment again and again. I made fool out of myself. dammit.

Relax!! We are humans. To err is human :p
 

ssb1551

Technomancer
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

^^ Dude, I didnt get that.
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

Games I totally not play:
FPS games like CS, DOTA, TF etc...

Got it.

1. Is it a right time to buy a GFX? Is something better going to be released in next one month?

GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti might be released.

3. How much VRAM would be sufficient for the game list above. (With and without GTA V, since that game alone I think is very demanding.

2GB

4. Does a GFX help in encoding videos too? And Video conversions when I am not gaming?

Depends on software. Some may have GPU implementation. But CPU is better in majority of cases.

5. Does a processor's integrated graphics part is freed to do work of CPU when the graphics load is offloaded to a dGPU?

No. But some resources might get free. e.g. RAM, GPU has its own RAM.

7. Will my PSU be able to handle the load of a GPU considering the PSU is currently supplying power to: Mobo, 3 sticks of DDR3 RAM, 1 TB HDD, DVD ROM drive, a USB3.0 eHDD, Mic, 2.0 speakers and a couple of USB devices.

430W is sufficient. But CX430 isn't a great PSU for a card like RX 470.

that means the iGPU (HD 4600) will goto waste when I use a dGPU..

Not a complete waste. If your discrete GPU goes off for any unfortunate reason, you can switch back to your iGPU. Also integrated graphics uses up your RAM.
Also DX12 could do something if developers used it.
DirectX 12 Multiadapter: Lighting up dormant silicon and making it work for you – DirectX Developer Blo
 
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Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

^^ Wow.. some nice info there. Especially that link.
Thanks.

GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti might be released.

I am not going for nVidia. So that means there's no use waiting for a month now.


I guess for future proofing 4 GB is good. But I guess current games won't be using the whole 4 gigs.


Depends on software. Some may have GPU implementation. But CPU is better in majority of cases.

I guess we can choose the resource we can use for rendering. Like we can choose if we want our rendering to be done by CPU or GPU. I hope that's the case.

430W is sufficient. But CX430 isn't a great PSU for a card like RX 470.

I think the PSU will work, if not the best. Maybe I would change the PSU later.

Not a complete waste. If your discrete GPU goes off for any unfortunate reason, you can switch back to your iGPU. Also integrated graphics uses up your RAM.
Also DX12 could do something if developers used it.
DirectX 12 Multiadapter: Lighting up dormant silicon and making it work for you – DirectX Developer Blo

Its good to know that atleast RAM would be freed.
That msdn blog article was good. And it's dated. I hope progress have not stalled and is wasn't just a windows 10 marketing stunt.
 

ico

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

I suggest RX470, but only if it is around 16K.

I'm currently using CX430v2 with HD 6950 without any issues, so I RX470 will run fine.
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

I suggest RX470, but only if it is around 16K.

I'm currently using CX430v2 with HD 6950 without any issues, so I RX470 will run fine.
Yes. The only thing which is stopping me from buying is the cost. Hoping I get a good deal around Diwali.

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For the record following are the prices online for MSI RX 470 4 GB:

 

TheSloth

The Slowest One
Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

these prices + shipping charge? How about buying locally?
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

these prices + shipping charge? How about buying locally?

I tried asking SMC International by calling them. They quoted only Rs 100 less than online price of Rs 18,400.
Also they said they only have one piece and there's no guarantee it would be available tomorrow. Basically, the marketing stunts.

I am not in a hurry to empty my pockets this deep, so I would wait for a good offer, or till Diwali.
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

So I finally ordered the graphics card today. I had to do since it wasn't offline, wandered yesterday in Nehru place in search for it.

I ended up buying RX 480 4 GB, since there was only $10 difference between 470 4 GB and 480 4 GB. :D

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TheSloth

The Slowest One
Re: [Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15

Congratulations man!!
One question though, you are gifting this card to yourself??
 

ssb1551

Technomancer
Re: [Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15

@Vyom - what is the shipping charge to India?
 
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Vyom

Vyom

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Re: [Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15

Congratulations man!!
One question though, you are gifting this card to yourself??

Long story, so here is it 4chan style:
> Card available at Amazon.com at like $209
> Card available at Amazon.in for like ~Rs 18k
> But on Amazon.in is available through Global store
> Global store be like, No India warranty
> Amazon.com be like, No India warranty
> I be like, yo, I have $87 on Amazon.com as gift cash
> Amazon.com be like, gift cash wont transfer to Amazon.in, since site operates independently
> I be eff it. I would just buy from Amazon.com. Gotta use those free $87
> So I buy it from Amazon.com. Total cost I had to pay (after all maths) be $171 (~Rs 11k)
> I gifted it to myself, cause ya know.. might be easier at customs to pass
> Now, me waiting, waiting and waiting. Playing games as slideshow till then.



@Vyom - what is the shipping charge to India?

Here is the cost breakdown:

Order Summary
Item(s) Subtotal: $209.99
Shipping & Handling: $10.71
Total before tax: $220.70
Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00
Import Fees Deposit $38.18
Gift Card Amount: -$87.26
Grand Total: $171.62
 
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