Nokia's N96 to go on sale on October 1
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krates
Be CoOl rAp RuLeZ !!!
Uppal me on your side
One n00b told me that you can't differ between 262K colours and 16 Million colours after seeing the 5610 XM i can bet even a class 5th student will be able to judge the difference
and if you don't believe me try to look at a gradient pic ....
and the guys saying that K550I or something like that got brilliant screen it is not that it is just boosted brightness
Dream , i dont want to argue with you in SE / NOKIA , But you should know what you're saying .
Do you know what "dslr " means ? What do you mean by DSLR Sensor ? If you know even little bit about photography then you'd know that DSLR Is whole different breed.
First of all , almost every nikon / canon DSLR user APS Sized sensor. Which is slightly smaller than a 35mm films size . Few high end dslr uses full frame sized( same size as 35mm )sensor . Now tell me , where would they fit that large sensor in a camera phone ?
Even if they somehow fit it , they'd need enough space for the lights to focus on sensor , so the phone will be thicker than even most camera out there.
So what's the solution ? Shrink the sensor ? Oh no , that'll again make each pixel smaller and thus lower light sensitivity resulting in higher noise. Now try to remove noise aggressively and you'll get soft picture without details .
And what do you think , its 8 megapixel , so it must be better than 5 megapixel. Wrong wrong wrong . Megapixel can only increase the resolution of a picture , NOT , I REPEAT NOT QUALITY. And increasing only megapixel without actually advancing the sensor will only decrease image quality. Even the increased resolution is useless because after all , you'll be seeing it on a QVGA Screen on cell or WXGA Screen on computer .You know , nikon's top end dslr's resolution is ONLY 12 megapixel , where as their consumer oriented coolpix tops at 14 megapixel . Do you think coolpix takes better picture than D300 ?
I really wish phone manufacturers to stop the magapixel race and start making actuallly capable camera. Kudos to SE For trying it with autofocus or xenon flash. Now i want is a camera with good optical zoom , even if thats 2mpix.
And about the screen : no matter what you do , and how much you increase brightness , a 265k screen is a 265 k screen. That is it'll show less , far less color gradation than a 16m color screen. Newer SE screen have great brightness . But if you compare both screen side by side with a same picture ( with subtle color gradation like petals ) you can easily see the difference. A lot of detail will be missing on 265k no matter how bright it may look.
By the way , nokia will indeed launch a 8mp cam at around same time as c905, and start shipping immediately , This has been confirmed by elder . Nokia used this strategy very successfully in n82 vs k850i fight. So there's very little reason to doubt it. But still we shouldn't fight with only speculation.
Winting for your reply dream .
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uppalpankaj
Ambassador of Buzz
@dream - Just give me the links of those comparisons that u r talking abt which prove that 16 M disp and 262 k display r the same...I couldn't find any.....16 M display is definitely better than 262k one as it has more resolution (no. of pixels) than a 262k one...
And when u talk abt something, do give some concrete evidence to prove what u r saying..Don't unnecessarily post wrong information that u can't prove..Do give me the links to the comparisons if any...
@krates - Thanks Krates..Atleast u understood what I was trying 2 say and u have an unbiased perspective….
+10....This is absolutely correct...I agree with u totally...
dreamcatcher
Rockin g33k
Are you some god-gifted soul who knows evrything about photography??
I meant that the C905 uses the same make of the sensor as used in the Sony DSLR camera.It obviously is a shrinked and a much smaller version of the sensor used in the DSLRs.Please read what i have said and comment.In fact, it has been confirmed by Sony themselves. The sensors made by Sony are made according to the needs of the user, and the sample pics have no noise or loss of detail whatsoever, so I should presume that you do yopur homework first before commenting on my remarks.
have a look at this and stop barking:-
*www.phonemag.com/sony-ericsson-cyber-shot-w61s-01531.php
Se C905 has being designed by SE japan, and so will be the future products, thus providing greater functionalities and productivity to the end user.The C905 and the W61 uses the same bloody sensor. I hope I got this through your head.
Now why are you going on about megapixels??8 mp pics are larger in dimensions and provide a better view of the object in proposition.Thus providing the user with more depth and insight into the image due to its greater resolution. If you use the same sensor to make 3 mp and 5 mp cams its quite obvious that the interpolated pics will look bad. The sensor plays a big role in this part.The better the sensor the better will be the image reproduction and thus better will be the pic.Dont act as if you are the know all here and all others are bloody fools.
About the screen.I have compared my K850 and the N95 side by side, the K850 has better colors, much saturated images.Period. And yea, i dint even bother to bring in the N82 here. Please guys, if you have some sense, you will actually compare a 16m nokia phone with the latest in the SE serie phones. you cant compare a nokia with a k550 and start jumping.SE displays are the best in the business and are recognized by reviewers worldwide. Enough said.
Yea, right.nokia doesnt have a 8 mp sensor yet dude.they are gonna buy one from samsung and initially release it next year or by Christmas.By that time C905 will be selling like hot cakes. Whatever Eldar said is crap. Please look through other sites before commenting.Thanx. And anyways, do you think Nokia would actually launch an 8 mp phone with their N96 releasing on October the 1st?? think again
.Cheers.Oh,btw.Se also releasing an 8 mp smartphone in december.the P5i, which was cancelled, now comes back in an 8 mp avatar,with VGA recording, 8gb nternal memory and expandable.Will be running UIQ and is obviously touchscreen. Thnx.
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krates
Be CoOl rAp RuLeZ !!!
the thing i would like to say is this SE phones have just brightness boosted up and nothing else
do you think you will say and expect us to believe ?
if you have some visual proof for that than post here and then only people here will believe
16M are far more better than 262k
dreamcatcher
Rockin g33k
Yea, you prove that 16m is better than 256k. Ok then.I wont be able to post any comparisons this week, but i promise to provide comparitive visuals of the n82 with the k850 come monday.
Power UP
In the zone
Whats the use Dream , u & myself and many others know N82 brightness is slightly low due to Nokia setting it in the firmware.
Unless u hack N82, the brightness will be low compared to phones like N95 etc.
But anyway this whole thing has become pointless.
MasterMinds
hell boy
comon,
this is not about nokia or se this is about 256k and 16m display! NOT MUCH difference
@dream
rightly said in a handheld device increasing the resolution is better than the no. of colours
i agree to dream
here is a question
whos display is better nokia 6300 or n73 answer wisely and do right the reason in support
this is not about nokia or se this is about 256k and 16m display! NOT MUCH difference
@dream
rightly said in a handheld device increasing the resolution is better than the no. of colours
i agree to dream
here is a question
whos display is better nokia 6300 or n73 answer wisely and do right the reason in support
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dreamcatcher
Rockin g33k
^^Nokia 6300 anyday.
MasterMinds
hell boy
but i woul preffer n73 cause bigger size though res is same
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In the zone
As Yogi said , i noticed the same thing when i upgraded to N82 from N73me.
From far away both the displays looked same , but when held in my hands i can easily see the difference.
The thing is u have too look it with ur own eyes to believe it.
The funny part is that when i looked at both the displays as online pics they both looked same but when i looked them upclose i could clearly see the difference.
Its just that taking pics of things never accurately reproduces the same color 100% with the digicams we have in our hands.
As i said before look at both of them with your own eyes.
From far away both the displays looked same , but when held in my hands i can easily see the difference.
The thing is u have too look it with ur own eyes to believe it.
The funny part is that when i looked at both the displays as online pics they both looked same but when i looked them upclose i could clearly see the difference.
Its just that taking pics of things never accurately reproduces the same color 100% with the digicams we have in our hands.
As i said before look at both of them with your own eyes.
krates
Be CoOl rAp RuLeZ !!!
you were expecting us to say N73 ?
btw
When you watch movies + videos etc there will lot's of diffrence even if you see the same image captured from N73 and watch it in N95 there is gonna be a lot of diffrence
the best device i have figured out for watching pics is N80
it's resolution is more hence it support more colours to come in a small screen
the N96 best part is it has got DUAL CPU's and it will kick ass any phone
the thing i would like to mention is this
C905 and INN0V8 only got a 8MP cam more and nothing else
C905 is out of the competition as N96 can beat it easily in everything except cam
but INN0V8 is the most feature rich phone
but i will still choose N96 over it because INN0V8 looks damn cheap phone
china phones like blabbering of it's feature's
and N96 is supposed to have the same audio chip as that of N91 beat that
5MP for me is enough for a phone
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MasterMinds
hell boy
yep and u shoul considering the size
the best device i have figured out for watching pics is N80
it's resolution is more hence it support more colours to come in a small screen
what do u actully mean by more colours in small screen it is rather more pixles in small size.....and n80 has 256k colour screen so RESOLUTION matters......not only putting some 16m colours and increasing the brightness would do AND remember that nokia 7710 {640x320}
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