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[skeletor]

HD 6670 is the worthy upgrade. HD 6450 is merely 20-25% faster than Intel HD 2000, slightly faster than HD 3000. GT 520 is same as HD 6450. HD 6570 is worthy over them and HD 6670 is worthy over HD 6570.

Also, of late if there's any company who has had issues with quality components i.e. "reliability", then it's nVidia. GTX 570 and 590 VRM issues.

 

[Techguy]

Update:

Bitfang has:

HIS Radeon 6670 GDDR5 @ 5.3k
HIS Radeon 6670 GDDR3 @ 4.8k
HIS Radeon 6450 GDDR3 @ 2.6k
Sapphire 6570 GDDR3 @ 3.9k

I read this review:
Test Setup And Benchmarks : AMD Radeon HD 6670 And 6570: Turkeys Or Turkish Delights?

A comparision here:

*bitfang.com/ProductComparison.aspx?CID=7wel8KXfLqg=

The review says that the 6670 is 3x the speed of a 6450..
Also, the 6450 is slightly faster than HD 3000..

should i buy a 6670 or 6570

 

[skeletor]

HD 6670 gddr5.

 

[Techguy]

I think i'll buy the 6670 GDDR5, but is it worth spending 1k and getting at 6750??? I heard they are much better..

Which are some good card manufacturers fro AMD?
Msi, asus, his, sapphire???

Where can i buy online?

 

[Cilus]

Look, the choice of graphics card entirely depends upon your choice. And I don't think spending 1K extra to get HD 6750 is required as HD 6670 performs very close to HD 6750. Although 6670 has only 480 stream processors compared to the 720 of HD 6750, they are based on advanced Northern Island architecture, same architecture used in HD 6800 seires cards. So it is slightly below the HD 6750, which is just a rebranded HD 5750 with 3D support.
So get the HD 6670. The next worthy upgrade will be HD 6770, not HD 6750.

 

[Techguy]

Thanks fro your advice!
Yes, i know the 6750 is merely re branded....
So should i go for the HD 6570 or the HD 6670? Are there any good Nvidia cards in the same category?
Are AMD cards reliable and suited for our humid climate?

 

[whitestar_999]

review link you posted in your own post on page 15 you can see power consumption & temp charts.HD 6670 GDDR5 wins hands down on both accounts with its performance.it is much cooler & draws much less power than GTS 450.

 

[skeletor]

No point in asking the same thing again and again. It is your decision what you want to go for.

 

[$$Lionking$$]

Techguy -

6670 with GDDR5 is anyday recommended vs 6570 with GDDR3 because 6570 costs 20% less but performance is almost 40% less. I personally think anything below 6670 is NOT meant for gaming.. you're better off without a GPU rather than with something like 6570.

Cilus - 6670 is NOT based on Northern Islands, it follows VLIW5(16*5(x,y,z,w,t)*6SIMD Engines = 480 Stream Processors) not VLIW4(16*4*?? = 480).

Anything thats a worthy Upgrade after HD 5670 512MB is HD 5750/6750. 6670 is not a worthy buy till it drops to 4.6-4.7k to replace HD 5670 512MB.

 

[Cilus]

Cilus - 6670 is NOT based on Northern Islands, it follows VLIW5(16*5(x,y,z,w,t)*6SIMD Engines = 480 Stream Processors) not VLIW4(16*4*?? = 480).

Lionking, the above piece of info is not correct. Northern Island is not only VLIW 4 based HD 6900 series but it also includes HD 6800, HD 6790, 6400, HD 6500 and HD 6600 series. So it is a mixture of VLIW 4 and VLIW 5. I know HD 6670 is not based on VLIW 4 and if you check my post then you'll find out that I mentioned that it is based on the same design used in HD 6800 series. Although Bart is the same VLIW 5 design, it is better optimized than the Evergreen family and has better Tessellation performance. And check the review, HD 6750 and HD 6670 has very marginal performance difference.

Regarding Norther Island GPU series, read Northern Islands (GPU family) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[$$Lionking$$]

Lionking, the above piece of info is not correct. Northern Island is not only VLIW 4 based HD 6900 series but it also includes HD 6800, HD 6790, 6400, HD 6500 and HD 6600 series. So it is a mixture of VLIW 4 and VLIW 5. I know HD 6670 is not based on VLIW 4 and if you check my post then you'll find out that I mentioned that it is based on the same design used in HD 6800 series. Although Bart is the same VLIW 5 design, it is better optimized than the Evergreen family and has better Tessellation performance. And check the review, HD 6750 and HD 6670 has very marginal performance difference.

Regarding Norther Island GPU series, read Northern Islands (GPU family) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read the review at toms... seems u r right... NI isnt necessarily VLIW4...

 

[Techguy]

Can anyone recommend some good fans for my Elite310? (120mm)
I would prefer ones with PWM. Nothing too costly!

 

[d6bmg]

^^ Get CM/Noctua(costly) 120mm fan. Would cost around 350/- for non-led version.

 

[Techguy]

I was just thinking about some guys said:
Get a better PSU for the future...

My rig will use around 350W, so i was wondering whether i should get a better PSU...

Corsair CX 430V2 -2.5k
Seasonic 520W S12II -3.7k
Seasonic 430W S12II 430 -2.9k
Silverstone 500 SST ST50f -3.2k

Which one should i buy?

 

[Cilus]

^^ Entirely depends upon how much you can spend for the PSU. Since you have sort listed a 3.7K PSU, I'll suggest to go with GS600 600W 80+ PSU @ 4K.

 

[whitestar_999]

for a i5 2400 system with 6670 card,2 7200rpm & 2 5400rpm sata HDs,1 dvd-rw drive,2 92mm & 1 82 mm non LED fan,1 LED & 1 non-LED 120mm fan recommended psu wattage is 282W so a good 430W is more than enough for your system.

 

[Techguy]

Yes that's also there...

I used the PSU calculator..
eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

i5 2400, DDR3 RAM, SATA HDD, DVD, 3x 120mm fans, 90% load: it says 207 watts and recommended 257W..

When i added capacot aging as 40%, it said 340W which is within 90 watts less than what the CX 430V2 can deliver...
Tests have shown it can also deliver 490W+ @ 45C..

Only: i was wondering whether it would be good to spend about 1k more and get 70W more power with the Silverstone S12II500.

I read a review that said that this unit is manufactured by FSP. The corsair unit is manufactured by CWT. What to do? I want a product that will not fail within 3-4years..
Also, i think the silverstone has 5 year warranty..
Where are the service centres? how to avail warranty for corsair and silverstone in case of a problem? Which one will be better?

Also, I wanted 2x 120mm case fans.. without LED... Something that has PWM

 

[whitestar_999]

capacitor aging at 40% is a bit much but still the final result is 90W less than the PSU rated capacity so i don't see any problem.also if you are not planning on running PSU 24*7 then aging will be somewhat less.also it is seasonic not silverstone which is an oem.
*whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers

Power Supplies

if you can afford extra 1k then no problem but i still suggest to go for a new cabinet than spending extra 1k for psu you won't fully use.

 

[d6bmg]

For your proper PSU would be: Seasonic 620W S12II-620 @4.6K
or as a cheaper option, Corsair GS600 @4.1K

 

[Techguy]

How is the performance of the GT 440 GDDR5 compared to the HD 6670 GDDR5?
Which one is better?