need help in buying a camcorder

hey guys i need to buy a camcorder mainly to do a documentary .....i will be working in dark places and sunny places......still photography won't hurt but isn't a neccesity....full hd is preferred but won't go in the lacs for it.........i don't know how much these things costs so i'll put up 20k as my starting bid will go up if neccesary will be buying it based on inputs so please pour in info so that i can make a quick purchase

basically i'll be interviewing a few people and discussing technological aspects the interview will be recorded and shown through a projector in my company to the clients and employees....the camcorder has to be good i need decent quality movie like video's and some sounds out of it .....and is it possible to put it in a stand and do the thing...........
 
i have no idea regarding these things :/ and on top of that i am worried my nose is at stake the whole shooting will be done by me and me only and every employee of the company is going to watch it ...the chairman of the company will be present aswell man i am sweating
 

ithehappy

Human Spambot
Sweating? Don't sweat.
Check those links I provided. Call a store tomorrow, see which one is available, buy it. Simple.
:)
 
man also the specification'e of all three are same except for the wieght so why the price difference ???

also will i get quality like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM ??

can these things be put in a stand and it can record?
 

ithehappy

Human Spambot
There must be some small differences. Check the specs thoroughly. I am on cell, so it's little complicated.
Video like that? Don't know! That must have been recorded with a premium class camcorder, also edited.
Thanks for that amazing video btw.
 
There must be some small differences. Check the specs thoroughly. I am on cell, so it's little complicated.
Video like that? Don't know! That must have been recorded with a premium class camcorder, also edited.
Thanks for that amazing video btw.

i checked 3 times everythings same except for the weight therefore why the price difference i have no idea i'll call tomorrow to check.....and i know they are using really hifi things to record that but something as clear like that would do
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
give me some time...I will check and find something of ur taste..

In general a camcoder is selected based on the following things -

1. Optical zoom
2. Stabilisation
3. weight
4. LCD quality/resolution coz u will have to depend on that for recording
5. LCD a touchscreen or not
6. Night mode effectiveness
7. memory ...internal memory is fast but restricted...memory card if used should be fast like class 10...cd dvd etc r old now

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I think your bet will be on Sony HDR-CX260

Its sensor is bigger then others... it have stabilisation...and more codec support...a jack for external mic ...best u can get :)
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
canon 7D for video :D ....I think canon 650D can take better video for half the price ...Good luck
 

raja manuel

In the zone

The video you linked is a compilation from the 2006 "Planet Earth" television series which was the most expensive nature documentary by the BBC. You can read more about how it was shot and the equipment used here:

Planet Earth (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think we can safely say that an amateur will find it very difficult to match that.

And yes, the 7D was used to shoot parts of the final battle in The Avengers; it is definitely capable of great stuff but that was in the hands of experienced filmmakers who create detailed storyboards for each shoot, have a very good understanding of (and carefully control) exposure and lighting, plan their takes, use multiple cameras to shoot in short bursts, and extensively edit later.

A DSLR is not a camcorder. It's much larger sensor which is optimised for still photography is likely to overheat in a few minutes and shutdown until it cools. The 7D is limited to a maximum of 12 minutes/4GB per clip. This can interrupt the smooth flow of an interview and increase your editing load. Speaking of which, have you tried editing full HD video from a DSLR before and understand the hardware and software requirements?

Based on what you have written about yourself and your level of knowledge about videography I would recommend doing more research to see how you can get the maximum within your experience and time constraints rather than go by the maximum the camera can do.
 

nac

Aspiring Novelist
And yes, the 7D was used to shoot parts of the final battle in The Avengers;

Wow! I didn't know one can get that much quality video from a DSLR. And I thought camcorders are always better than DSLR wrt. recording videos.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
@nac ...DSLR can record nice quality video with great bokeh.....but but like raja told above DSLR's have lot of issues

1. Sensor heating
2. FAT32 in memory card which wont create any file bigger then 4GB ...1080p recording will be just 12min in 4GB (as mentioned by raja)
3. lot of noise in video...of focussing,VR motor vibration etc...which needs an external mic
4. its not as easy as a video camera to carry a 1.5 KG DSLR +lens in your hands to record video ....video cameras have nice grip and handle to hold them for long time...this need a special gear to fit DSLR inside which itself cost 50-60k just saw once on sale thread

for amatures its better to get a video camera
 
The video you linked is a compilation from the 2006 "Planet Earth" television series which was the most expensive nature documentary by the BBC. You can read more about how it was shot and the equipment used here:

Planet Earth (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think we can safely say that an amateur will find it very difficult to match that.

And yes, the 7D was used to shoot parts of the final battle in The Avengers; it is definitely capable of great stuff but that was in the hands of experienced filmmakers who create detailed storyboards for each shoot, have a very good understanding of (and carefully control) exposure and lighting, plan their takes, use multiple cameras to shoot in short bursts, and extensively edit later.

A DSLR is not a camcorder. It's much larger sensor which is optimised for still photography is likely to overheat in a few minutes and shutdown until it cools. The 7D is limited to a maximum of 12 minutes/4GB per clip. This can interrupt the smooth flow of an interview and increase your editing load. Speaking of which, have you tried editing full HD video from a DSLR before and understand the hardware and software requirements?

Based on what you have written about yourself and your level of knowledge about videography I would recommend doing more research to see how you can get the maximum within your experience and time constraints rather than go by the maximum the camera can do.

so what to buy i really don't know any editing it'll be done by my friend..the same guy i am buying the 7d from.................

@nac ...DSLR can record nice quality video with great bokeh.....but but like raja told above DSLR's have lot of issues

1. Sensor heating
2. FAT32 in memory card which wont create any file bigger then 4GB ...1080p recording will be just 12min in 4GB (as mentioned by raja)
3. lot of noise in video...of focussing,VR motor vibration etc...which needs an external mic
4. its not as easy as a video camera to carry a 1.5 KG DSLR +lens in your hands to record video ....video cameras have nice grip and handle to hold them for long time...this need a special gear to fit DSLR inside which itself cost 50-60k just saw once on sale thread

for amatures its better to get a video camera


please come up with names :(
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
1st tell us your budget...you were getting 7D which means u are ready to spend 50-60k ....in initial post you said that u will spend 20+

Sony HDR-CX260 which I suggested is quit good...not a pro camcoder but very good in everyways....it will cost around 30k
 

raja manuel

In the zone
so what to buy i really don't know any editing it'll be done by my friend..the same guy i am buying the 7d from.................

a) If he is your friend, why are you buying it from him? Can't you just borrow it from him?
b) Has he actually done much editing on HD video? If the job is as critical as you say you might want to be careful about relying on friends.

As Sujoy said, you need to clarify your budget. Also, we would need to know how much time you have to pull this off which will help in judging the learning curve you are facing. Do you start shooting a week from now or a year from now?
 
1st tell us your budget...you were getting 7D which means u are ready to spend 50-60k ....in initial post you said that u will spend 20+

Sony HDR-CX260 which I suggested is quit good...not a pro camcoder but very good in everyways....it will cost around 30k

i gave a base price of 20k i said i could go up if required i am getting the 7d for 40k........

my budget is 20k-100k not a single penny more

i know i won't get any pro stuff in that so anything good will suffice for now

a) If he is your friend, why are you buying it from him? Can't you just borrow it from him?
b) Has he actually done much editing on HD video? If the job is as critical as you say you might want to be careful about relying on friends.

As Sujoy said, you need to clarify your budget. Also, we would need to know how much time you have to pull this off which will help in judging the learning curve you are facing. Do you start shooting a week from now or a year from now?

yes he's reliable he stay's in canada and its his only source of income so i think he can pull it off........i can't borrow cause i need to buy one......
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
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