Need help in building My first ever gaming PC

[whitestar_999]

someone commented on FB groups

Even worst case scenario I don't think cheapest MAX 450 will be priced more than 11k because cheapest X570 mobo is already at ~14.5k.

 

[SaiyanGoku]

@OP, take a look at this:
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[Ssangeet]

If anyone know when will B450 Max launch in India please comment here.
For now I am holding my plan to buy new pc as people are saying it will come very soon in india

 

[nac]

There is no official announcement about launch date. Rough guess would be few weeks to a month.

BTW, only MSI is launching MAX boards. I don't think any other manufacturer seem to bother about updating their previous generation boards with 32 MB BIOS chip or do they?
Seems like you're keen on MSI boards.

 

[whitestar_999]

There is no official announcement about launch date. Rough guess would be few weeks to a month.

BTW, only MSI is launching MAX boards. I don't think any other manufacturer seem to bother about updating their previous generation boards with 32 MB BIOS chip or do they?
Seems like you're keen on MSI boards.

MSI Tomahawk & Mortar are the best ryzen boards under 10-11k so if they can be made compatible with ryzen 3xxx then nothing can be better.

 

[whitestar_999]

It seems waiting for MSI is not a feasible option not to mention their very poor rma support stories in recent Reddit /r/IndianGaming section so get Asrock B450M pro 4 or save some more money & buy cheapest asus/gigabyte X570.

 

[Ssangeet]

It seems waiting for MSI is not a feasible option not to mention their very poor rma support stories in recent Reddit /r/IndianGaming section so get Asrock B450M pro 4 or save some more money & buy cheapest asus/gigabyte X570.

x570 is around 15000 while B450 is around 7 so there is huge difference & chances are less that i will spend that much extra as i am saving already for monitor because we are not counted monitor in that budget...& will there be any serious issue with b450(+R5 3600) because i dont want to mod anything ,i just want to play games on normal settings & thats it. probably even the low spec PC can do that for me as i said before gtx 1060 user is doing the same thing as i will do on the build .

 

[Ssangeet]

MSI Tomahawk & Mortar are the best ryzen boards under 10-11k so if they can be made compatible with ryzen 3xxx then nothing can be better.

i did not know these kind of things matter in PC build until i am reaching on the point to make one for myself

 

[Ssangeet]

There is no official announcement about launch date. Rough guess would be few weeks to a month.

BTW, only MSI is launching MAX boards. I don't think any other manufacturer seem to bother about updating their previous generation boards with 32 MB BIOS chip or do they?
Seems like you're keen on MSI boards.

No Bro.as i said before i did not know anything about any of those things actually first time i hear the word Ryzen ,b450 etc...i am OK with anything until it works fine & worth of the money which i will pay

 

[whitestar_999]

As long as you don't overclock,asrock B450M Pro 4(get it from primeabgb) should work fine with latest bios update(you can call primeabgb to update the bios for you before placing the order/shipping). MSI Max series will be delayed it seems so this is the next best option. This situation is unique as that was not the case when Ryzen 2xxx was launched.Call it bad luck that you needed to build the pc at this time.

 

[Ssangeet]

As long as you don't overclock,asrock B450M Pro 4(get it from primeabgb) should work fine with latest bios update(you can call primeabgb to update the bios for you before placing the order/shipping). MSI Max series will be delayed it seems so this is the next best option. This situation is unique as that was not the case when Ryzen 2xxx was launched.Call it bad luck that you needed to build the pc at this time.

Looks like it is best option,by the way suppose I am going for lower specs build then what will you recommend,suppose I have to make build in 50-60 k instead of 60-70k

 

[whitestar_999]

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[nac]

Isn't B365 chipset is a downgrade from B360?

 

[nac]

No Bro.as i said before i did not know anything about any of those things actually first time i hear the word Ryzen ,b450 etc...i am OK with anything until it works fine & worth of the money which i will pay

Just because MSI B450 VRM design is better doesn't mean Asus and Gigabyte are worst/garbage shouldn't use at all. They can handle R5 3600 fine. Personally I would prefer Asus and Gigabyte (in that order) than MSI and Asrock.
For your use case, better go for ATX size board (if there is M after chipset model (B450M or X570M) that means it's mATX size). You don't want to feel too cramped with mATX board. There may be a couple of thousands price premium for ATX board, it's worth.

 

[nac]

MSI Tomahawk & Mortar are the best ryzen boards under 10-11k so if they can be made compatible with ryzen 3xxx then nothing can be better.

It is compatible. I guess people are still skeptical about MSI BIOS for their older AM4 boards.

 

[whitestar_999]

It is compatible. I guess people are still skeptical about MSI BIOS for their older AM4 boards.

MSI has discontinued Mortar(non-MAX) & Tomahawk(MAX) US release is delayed(EU got it & as per some comments it works fine with ryzen 3xxx with just an annoying issue of long POST times like ~15 sec).

 

[nac]

Yeah, isn't that normal with MSI? (I assumed it's normal)
My motherboard MSI B450M Pro VDH does debug test (cpu, vga, bios, ram) when booting. It takes some seconds (never bothered to time it).

My previous Asus board P5G MX and Foxin G31 does no debug test and boots in about 2-3 seconds (Board makers logo display).

 

[whitestar_999]

Yeah, isn't that normal with MSI? (I assumed it's normal)
My motherboard MSI B450M Pro VDH does debug test (cpu, vga, bios, ram) when booting. It takes some seconds (never bothered to time it).

My previous Asus board P5G MX and Foxin G31 does no debug test and boots in about 2-3 seconds (Board makers logo display).

That is not normal,I mean the time taken.It basically means bios menu/logo comes up after 15 seconds of pressing the power button.

 

[nac]

I'll time it next time and see how long it takes for debug test. My rough guess would be a good 10 seconds.

 

[whitestar_999]

Get it ASAP & also note that MSI after sales support is not good(as per latest comments in reddit /r/IndianGaming).
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX MOTHERBOARD