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^ So it is normal.
Mine takes about 19 seconds from power to logo display and about 13 seconds to windows login.
 

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^ So it is normal.
Mine takes about 19 seconds from power to logo display and about 13 seconds to windows login.
It is not so long on recent mobos(assuming normal checks & not some "debug checks") & even if assuming it is normal for debug checks then at least on MSI Max mobos there is currently no way to disable it which again is not normal.Though it is not some "practical issue" & should be resolved with some later bios update.
 

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Better & almost confirmed compatibility with Ryzen 3xxx processors compared to non-MAX version. In comparison to other brands B450 mobos,Tomahawk has better build quality & VRMs.
 

nac

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I am using this board for about 9 months now and have updated BIOS 3 times, I think. It's always the same. To me it appears totally normal, may be it's not the case with other board makers. I don't know.
I haven't checked if there is any option to disable it.

I don't remember the exact sequence, but this is how it is, roughly.
Press Power button
CPU fan spins, CPU debug LED lit up - when it's done checking, it shuts off including CPU fan
Then same kinda sequence goes for others as well (RAM, VGA and boot/BIOS)
 

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CPU fan spins, CPU debug LED lit up - when it's done checking, it shuts off including CPU fan
Then same kinda sequence goes for others as well (RAM, VGA and boot/BIOS)
That's not normal startup,my 2014 mobo display manufacturer logo after ~6-7 seconds of pressing power button & in that time only thing that happens is beep sound from POST successful operation,no turning off of anything.
 
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I am using this board for about 9 months now and have updated BIOS 3 times, I think. It's always the same. To me it appears totally normal, may be it's not the case with other board makers. I don't know.
I haven't checked if there is any option to disable it.

I don't remember the exact sequence, but this is how it is, roughly.
Press Power button
CPU fan spins, CPU debug LED lit up - when it's done checking, it shuts off including CPU fan
Then same kinda sequence goes for others as well (RAM, VGA and boot/BIOS)
which board ?you are making whole conversation confusing for me
 

nac

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That's not normal startup,my 2014 mobo display manufacturer logo after ~6-7 seconds of pressing power button & in that time only thing that happens is beep sound from POST successful operation,no turning off of anything.
I meant normal, coz this is how current MSI board works. I don't know what board you have and how it works. And my 10yrs old Asus or 2yrs old Foxin don't take this much time either.
If anyone wants to look up, you can google MSI EZ Debug.
*i.imgur.com/TaubaPl.png
Sangeet, I am talking about MSI B450M Pro VDH and it applies to other Ryzen boards from MSI as well (I guess all MSI Ryzen boards have this feature EZ Debug).

Currently they are offering free shipping, if you don't buy before 16th Aug then you'll have to shell out few hundreds for shipping. In that perspective free shipping is your discount now.
 

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I mean can't you disable this "EZ debug",if yes then either it is not possible on MAX mobo or MAX mobo POST times are similar even without EZ debug which in itself is an issue. If you can't disable this "EZ debug" then I am surprised how nobody mention it when recommending MSI mobos especially if it takes ~20sec for completion.
 
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So is the list right(we decided before)?
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Zotac GTX 1660ti Buy Zotac GTX 1660 Ti Twin Fan 6GB GDDR6 (ZT-T16610F-10L) at Lowest Price In India - mdcomputers.in
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Case = I will look for local shop or buy online later
 
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Yes,that is fine.
ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 3200MHZ RAM
*www.amazon.in/Corsair-Carbide-CC-9011075-WW-Computer-Included/dp/B00RORBQNW
Thanks .I will start ordering things from morning tomorrow. There are some people messaging me on FB and said that they are also genuine sellers and can give me lower price(not for all products) then my final shortlisted prices.
 

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Don't take risk buying from FB sellers, you may not even get a proper GST invoice.Which products they are offering at lower price & by how much & also whether they will give a proper GST invoice?

P.S. Check these components final price on primeabgb too,their shipping & payment gateway charges are usually lower.
 
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Ssangeet

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Don't take risk buying from FB sellers, you may not even get a proper GST invoice.Which products they are offering at lower price & by how much & also whether they will give a proper GST invoice?

P.S. Check these components final price on primeabgb too,their shipping & payment gateway charges are usually lower.
i am buying this for personal use,what will i do with GST thing?
EDIT : both of those sellers said "We deal only in Bill, immediate replacement via nearest service center via DOA Policy"
 
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