Need Help For A Gaming PC Under 100-120K.

[Myth]

Yep! Thats what I mean.! If I get a CF, will I get better performance for a longer time than EQUIVALENT single GPU?

Yep, Longer and better.
A 7870 CF will outperform and outlive a single 7970 for almost the same price. When the time comes, ditch the GPUs and get another pair(in line with the latest tech then).

Imo , OP should go for a CF setup because if OP buys a HD 7970 and the same card is stopped after 1 to 2 yrs OP cannot inc his performance....

^^you think amd will stop making gpus??

he can get a better card at that time

I think, both of you are saying the same thing in different words.

 

[V2IBH2V]

But then, what is the learning curve involved for multi-GPU setup?

 

[anirbandd]

Yep! Thats what I mean.! If I get a CF, will I get better performance for a longer time than EQUIVALENT single GPU?

definitely!

You did not understand properly bro.
And OP you will definitely get the performance for a longer time.

oh.. got it.

But then, what is the learning curve involved for multi-GPU setup?

for SLI, the learning curve is almost absent, due to nvidia's framerate control technique providing minimal microstuttering and their releasing SLI profiles very fast in-line with the release of a new game.

for AMD, the learning profile is steep. RadeonPro is an excellent piece of s/w, and almost gets rid of the microstuttering with the right tweaks. but you need to learn what to tweak and how much to tweak. thats the learning curve.

 

[V2IBH2V]

So, you mean SLI>CF? If so, is 670 SLI> 7950 CF?

 

[anirbandd]

am not talking about performance..

google microstuttering.

 

[vaibhavs800]

If going for cf get hd 7950 at least as it has 3gb vram..... If I had that kind of budget, I would be thinking of 3 way monitor setup with 7950 cf.
And dont get 660ti due to its hobbled memory, on nvidia side you should take gtx 670 as a minimum.
Although you can get hd 7970 cf for 60k, which will be almost the fastest dual gpu setup and still have 60k for other components

 

[V2IBH2V]

WikiPedia said that GTX 680 SLI had virtually no microstuttering at all. While the 7970 CF showed 85% variation in frame rate(or something like that), which is serious microstutter.
So, now? What should I go for?

 

[gameranand]

WikiPedia said that GTX 680 SLI had virtually no microstuttering at all. While the 7970 CF showed 85% variation in frame rate(or something like that), which is serious microstutter.
So, now? What should I go for?

I told you already. When going for CF setup you have to take Heat into consideration too, specially when your place is hot. Also yes there is a learning curve involved in CF setup and many times you won't be able to enjoy the game at its launch as it might give problem which gets rectified slowly by patches or experimentation with the settings. For me it was no problem because I usually play game after their development phase. For e.g - I have Tomb raider and Bioshock Infinite but I am not playing them now, I'll play them maybe some months later. Currently I am occupied with other games. Its kind of a habit to me that I don't play latest games very early but that is not the case with everyone. I again request you to go through my thread again as we discussed this matter in length there and most of your doubts will be cleared if you read them.

Also don't sacrifice on other products just for getting CF setup. 7970 is perfectly fine and will easily last for 3-4 years.

 

[d3p]

for SLI, the learning curve is almost absent, due to nvidia's framerate control technique providing minimal microstuttering and their releasing SLI profiles very fast in-line with the release of a new game.

for AMD, the learning profile is steep. RadeonPro is an excellent piece of s/w, and almost gets rid of the microstuttering with the right tweaks. but you need to learn what to tweak and how much to tweak. thats the learning curve.

In simple words, Nvidia's drivers are much easy & hassle free, whereas Radeon's CCC is not easy, till you start figuring out what to tweak. So its not a rocket science any more.

Nvidia & Radeon, both releases CAP & driver upgrades well in time with a new game in the market. So nothing much to complain there.

670SLI might pwn over HD 7950CF, but not with a Huge Margin. Also the money spent behind 670SLI is much higher than the performance margin.

So HD 7950 CF is VFM & performance wise 670SLI is the winner [with few more frame rates]

 

[The Incinerator]

Dual Card - Nvidia
Single Card - ATi

Its that simple.

 

[V2IBH2V]

@gameranand. Yea bro. But Still... GREED!

@d3p. Read about 670 sli. They say, negligible micro-stutter. Also read that even if fps is constant 60, micro-stutter makes it look like 25 fps.

So, basically.. If I get an extension for the budget, IS MULTI-GPU WORTH IT?

 

[Myth]

Multi gpu is worth it, but through the learning curve mentioned.
IMO, 670sli is over priced. 660ti sli will do for single monitor.

If you want simplicity, take a single 7970.

 

[gameranand]

Its quite simple really. Greed is something you have to negotiate with, I mean if you are going the CF way then you are going to sacrifice other components, so ask yourself if you are OK with lesser intense experience for extra frames or not. If you go single card way then you are getting everything in the budget and when you are going CF way then you are going to compromise on other products.

 

[V2IBH2V]

No actually, if the price is worth the experience, I would ask dad to pour some more dough into the machine. So, the 670 SLI would be no problem if price is the only thing thats holding me back from getting it.

 

[rock2702]

No actually, if the price is worth the experience, I would ask dad to pour some more dough into the machine. So, the 670 SLI would be no problem if price is the only thing thats holding me back from getting it.

Get the gtx 670 sli if money is not an issue.Prefer the asus gtx 670 dcu2 cards over other brands.Also get a full tower cabinet like nzxt phantom, switch 810 or cm storm stryker/trooper.

 

[anirbandd]

@d3p. Read about 670 sli. They say, negligible micro-stutter. Also read that even if fps is constant 60, micro-stutter makes it look like 25 fps.

So, basically.. If I get an extension for the budget, IS MULTI-GPU WORTH IT?

multi gpu is worth every penny.. the amount of processing power, maaan.. but as already said, if you get AMD, then you can have a high VFM config, with the downside of waiting for optimisations to roll out from AMD or ride the learning curve with RadeonPro.
But if you get nvidia, it'll cost you a lot more, but you wont have to invest much time tweaking settings.

if you can wait to play games after dev phase is over[like Anand], or want to go with RadeoPro, then go with CF.
else go with SLI.

 

[gameranand]

No actually, if the price is worth the experience, I would ask dad to pour some more dough into the machine. So, the 670 SLI would be no problem if price is the only thing thats holding me back from getting it.

First concentrate on what input devices and output devices you are going to get and what would be the budget for them. After than if pocket allows and you are ready for tweaking and all then go for multi-GPU setup else stick with already experimented and successful single card setup.

 

[V2IBH2V]

@gameranand. Perfect! This is the only way out.
Final config:-
i7 3770k ~19
Asus p8z77 pro ~16
Wd black 2 tb ~11
GTX 670 ~27
NZXT Lexa S ~4.5
G.Skill RipjawsX 8 GB ~3.5
Corsair HX-850 ~ 10
U2312HM ~16
LG H55N DVD-RW ~1.1
Logitech G550 ~ 2.5
Logitech G500 ~3.5
APC 1.1kVa ~6

Totals @~120k
Exact prices please!

And, should I get the extension now?

Oops! Forgot about cooler. I'd get
CM EVO ~3.5(i guess?)

 

[gameranand]

@gameranand. Perfect! This is the only way out.
Final config:-
i7 3770k ~19
Asus p8z77 pro ~16
Wd black 2 tb ~11
GTX 670 ~27
NZXT Lexa S ~4.5
G.Skill RipjawsX 8 GB ~3.5
Corsair HX-850 ~ 10
U2312HM ~16
LG H55N DVD-RW ~1.1
Logitech G550 ~ 2.5
Logitech G500 ~3.5
APC 1.1kVa ~6

Totals @~120k
Exact prices please!

And, should I get the extension now?

Oops! Forgot about cooler. I'd get
CM EVO ~3.5(i guess?)

There are some incorrect prices
WD Black is available at 10.1 K on FK.
Replace 670 with 7970 which would be more like 30 K
Corsair HX 850 would easily set you back for 10.4-11 K.
Logitech G550 would be available for 4.5-5K
CM EVO is for 2.5 K

And your total price with shipping would be more or less 130K. See I told you, if you go for CF setup then you would have to compromise on every other product. This RIG looks perfect to me right now.

 

[V2IBH2V]

So, I read everywhere that a single 7970 Ghz is enough for 1080p gaming. So, that is what I will be doing then!
Okay then. If I'm not going for multi-gpu, then 850W PSU is senseless, right?
I would lean towards a better 750W. What do you say?