Need a config with onboard graphics below 30k

[pushkaraj]

One of my friends needs a computer below 30k.

I am confused whether to suggest him to buy an intel or an amd. I myself am an AMD user and my Gigabyte motherboard has onboard geforce 6100. And i hav been able to play most of the games at medium quality(currently playing world i conflict ) I dont know which intel motherboards have good onboard graphics. My friend is an occassional gamer and has told me he just wants MAFIA to work properly on his new pc

Please suggest a suitable config.

 

[desiibond]

CPU: AMD ATHLON 64 X2 5200+ AM2 Dual Core Processor with 1mb cache Rs. 5.2k
Motherboard: Asus M2N-VM Rs. 4k
RAM: 1 GB DDR2 677 MHz (Kingston) : Rs.1k
HDD: 250 GB Serial ATA Seagate : Rs.2,900
Monitor: Samsung 19" SyncMaster 932NW TFT Monitor : Rs.11k
DVD Writer: Sony 20x burner : Rs. 1,400
Microsoft keyboard and mouse : Rs.800
Mercury cabinet : Rs.1,500
UPS : APC 500va : Rs. 2.2k
Speakers: Logitech X-540 : Rs.5k or Creative SBS 2.1 370 for 1k



config with 8600GT card that can play any game including Crysis:

AMD ATHLON 64 X2 4400+ AM2 Dual Core Processor : Rs.3,300
Motherboard: Asus M2N-VM Rs. 4k
RAM: 1 GB DDR2 677 MHz (Kingston) : Rs.1k
HDD: 250 GB Serial ATA Seagate : Rs.2,900
Samsung 17" SyncMaster 732N TFT Monitor: Rs.9k
XFX 256 MB GEFORCE PCX 8600GT PCI E CARD : Rs.5k
DVD Writer: Sony 20x burner : Rs. 1,400
Microsoft keyboard and mouse : Rs.800
Mercury cabinet : Rs.1,500
UPS : APC 500va : Rs. 2.2k
Total without speakers: Rs.30,500 approx.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Since u are a casual gamer too then i suggest buying at least 8600 GT, can run most of the games on decent settings!

Processor is good as desiibond said but 5200+ comes with 2Mb L2 Cache which is a good thing!
For 1100/- get a Transcend 800 Mhz 1 GB!
Buy a good PSU like Powersafe gold, keep an eye over Amp, more amp over 12V means more raw power!
The 19" SAMSUNG, LG, VIEWSONIC is for 9800/-!
17" is for like 8500/-

 

[kayos]

i got one very recently..
e6750 Intel INR 7900
DG33fbc INR 4800
2 gb Ram INR 2200
250GB SATA INR 2800
Sony DVD RW INR 1250
Sony FDD INR 250
Iball Grabbit Cabinet INR 1500
17" Flat Screen INR 5400
Wireless KB Mouse Logitech INR 1090
Microtek 600VA INR 1900


Total 29000 INR ...
Onboard fraphics are pretty good .. infact i cud play with onboard graphics better than 7200GS that i bought with it .. changed it to 8800GTS now..

u can change mobo to asus if u want.. rest all is fine i think ..
can get a 8600GT for an additional 5K INR and drop down to 1 GB RAM.. in all it will be around 30k with a very good config...

 

[desiibond]

^^^Isn't AMD's config with 17" low latency TFT monitor, 8600GT for 30k better than your configuration for 28.8k (including k/b and mouse which you didn't mention). Just a question and not inferiorating your config. What is model number of the monitor that you got for 5.4k? Is it flat screen CRT monitor or is it LCD monitor?

Since u are a casual gamer too then i suggest buying at least 8600 GT, can run most of the games on decent settings!

Processor is good as desiibond said but 5200+ comes with 2Mb L2 Cache which is a good thing!
For 1100/- get a Transcend 800 Mhz 1 GB!
Buy a good PSU like Powersafe gold, keep an eye over Amp, more amp over 12V means more raw power!
The 19" SAMSUNG, LG, VIEWSONIC is for 9800/-!
17" is for like 8500/-

Damn, I thought 800Mhz RAM costs around 1.5k. If it costs 1.1k, yes go for it. I am not that much educated in PSU's. So, consider Keith's suggestion

 

[dOm1naTOr]

If u get 19" LCD, then any onboard gfx can't handle most games @ 1440*900. So i wud suggest 17" CRt flat nd get an 8600GT along with a Zebronivs Platinum 500w for 1.8k.
And Zebronics ATX cabby are available starting at 900/- with 400w PSU, nd have almost same features nd build quality as mercury or iball.
And if u are going for a GFX card, then dun waste money on M2N VM DVI. Get MSi K9A GM3 for 2.9k. Its equally future proof as M2N Vm not considering the onboard gfx.

And, dont go for XFX 8600GT which has some heating issue. Get Point of View 8600GT for 5.2k.

And bout proccy, get AMD's black edition. Its hell of a gud overclocker if not better than C2D. 5000+ black edition is a gud deal nd u can oc it to 3.2Hgz out of the box, nd can go max of 3.4Ghz with fine tuning.

And M2N VM has very limited overclocking features, but K9A GM3 or Asus M2A Vm[3.2k] with 690G has ample oc features including voltage pumping.

 

[ace]

hi
i m going 2 buy a XFX 8600 gt 256 2day....
u said it had heating probs...
wht is the prob....
is pov gud ...
plz help..

 

[desiibond]

I heard only the XFX card that comes from Rashi Peripherals is having problem due to fan issues. Other lot's are good and no issues with heat.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

Yup, if the card is XFX, then most probably its from Rashi. Now Rashi has only XF 8600GT model UDF7 which has some heating nissues[mainly doe to the fan speed problem].
There is new XFX UDD3 model which is very gud, but u can't get it from India as Rashi stopped taking stock from XFX nd is trying to sell of their current stock of 8600GT UDF7, cheaper.
So now UDF& is for as low as 5k.
So POV 8600GT will be better than that an is 5.2k.

I dun say XFX is bad, but a very gud brand, but just their UDF7 is faulty nd blame RPtech for stocking it.

Or the best one is Asus EN 8600GT but is 7k. SO POV 8600GT makes the best buy with gud vfm.

 

[kayos]

^^^Isn't AMD's config with 17" low latency TFT monitor, 8600GT for 30k better than your configuration for 28.8k (including k/b and mouse which you didn't mention). Just a question and not inferiorating your config. What is model number of the monitor that you got for 5.4k? Is it flat screen CRT monitor or is it LCD monitor?

yeah maybe mate .. but i thot since he isnt a avid games and intel having a good onboard grafics he will have option if he doent want to go for a GFX card rite now...
and yes plss add k/b mouse 800 INR to tha amount .. lol i knew i was missing something..
and its CRT samsung syncmaster 798MB flat screen... its ok if u dont have space problem ..not that bulky either as is magic bright

 

[dOm1naTOr]

.not that bulky either as is magic bright

Me too have same monitor nd it works gr8. But its only problem is some kinda high freq sound[which drills the ears] when set to 60Hz.
Now im workin with 1280*960 @ 72Hz. I think its best for this monitor.
But it draws a lot of power, but for the performance it gives, its a gud buy.
And it looks cool too.

 

[kayos]

Me too have same monitor nd it works gr8. But its only problem is some kinda high freq sound[which drills the ears] when set to 60Hz.
Now im workin with 1280*960 @ 72Hz. I think its best for this monitor.
But it draws a lot of power, but for the performance it gives, its a gud buy.
And it looks cool too.

same monitor as in syncmaster 798mb??
works pretty well for me .. no sound ..

and magicbright is kinda very heavy monitor...lol massive packing..

 

[dOm1naTOr]

yup, its 798MB plus
And it only makes sound if i set anything higher than 1280*900 @ 60Hz.
And ull have to tweak the 'moire' setings for best clarity.

 

[kayos]

hmm ok mebbe..
will try today n tell u,..

 

[Pathik]

I would get a Intel c2d config if i had 30k.

 

[juggler]

I would get a Intel c2d config if i had 30k.

pathik for 30k what is the config that u would choose??

 

[desiibond]

one important thing you need to check while getting Graphics card is RAM.

Some cards are sold at lower price becuase they come with normal DDR memory instead of high speed GDDR3. They will be terribly slow.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Dude its better to go for AMD if no overcloking has to done. Also if overclocking has to done then u gonna need a good motherboard too. Don't buy cheap A88 mobo's. I suggest atleast ASUS P5N SLI for AMD overclocking.

Though its good potential with Black Edition but for overclocking, i think C2Duo would be the better choice!

 

[kayos]

but incase he is not going to go for gfx card .. i wud say intel is the best option with good onboard graphics...

 

[desiibond]

instead of thinking whether we need gfx card or not, if we think what can we get for 30k, I think AMD's configuration will be more feature rich and powerful. For the price of e6750, i get AMD mobo and processor and for the price of Intel's mobo (having decent onboard gfx), I can get an 8600GT, which not only increases gaming performance but also increase performance of OS like Vista. Even when running XP on a 19" display with heavy resolution, it removes the load off the CPU thus making it a much better choice.